i still show 100k+ profit /yearly, i'd love to see your graph

What has my graph got to do with you not being able to beat the games?

I think he's implying you're a hypocrite to some degree (in that he thinks you can't beat the games).

Ah gotcha. Is this where I am supposed to start pulling graphs out and derailing the thread?

you are implying that us "rakeback pros" cant beat the games (not true) while you do beat them because you are not mass tabling, you are better or w/e, if we are not beating the games, meaning we play bad i think you should be glad rather than angry, i mean if we suck then you should take our money at the tables, or you prefer to play against good players?

Most people have no idea they are up against these 24 tablin fpp pro's
Lowering the amount of tables one can play at a time would be great thing for the game as a whole.
Who doesnt get frustrated by these guys slowing down every single game they play in.

If poker software is here to stay players should only be allowed to use the in house software and nothing else.

Hand histories should be bugged so data mining and information sharing CHEATERS are slowed down, found out and BANNED.

the Affiliate systems should be abandoned as these people are the same sucking up $$$ that doesnt belong too them.

Couldn't hurt considering your earlier post that started the request for graphs was where the derailment happened in the first place.

Pretty sure the ship has already sailed on that one

If we're wishing for things that aren't actually going to happen, can I have a pony?

please don't give the starving man a pony.. poor pony

37,500 FPPs should take you about 3... errrr... 4 days.

There is no doubt that playing against 24 tablers is a lot easier than playing against other regs but that doesn't mean that they are easy money. Doesn't take a genius to work that one out.

Anyone who has a clue about table selection avoids you guys unless there is a big fish at the table.

That and I would want to play more than 30 hands per hour.

Roy you underestimate how much not having fpp for nothing is going to hurt these players.
playing more hours is not going to help at all, they have to play more hands and i believe the majority will go broke and give up very soon in the new year. Or face GASP DEPOSITING $$$$$$ On the WEBSITE. wp pstars wp =0)

In contrast the real players who like to open pots, play a lot of hands, play sh games are gonna reap it .

At any rate, calling someone a "rakeback whore" or equivalent is just showing you have no idea what is going on with online poker.

Sites overcharge on rake, so they can have a flashy rakeback system. If a site had no reward program, there would be a lot less loyalty, a lot less advertising, and people would play there less.

But the money for these programs has to come from somewhere, it comes from the poker sites revenue: the rake.

A VIP program is just a poker sites way of saying "Okay, look. You can have your $1 max rake instead of $3, but to get it, you have to promise to play only here."

And professionals say "okay."

Playing in a game with less rake isn't whoring, it's intelligent. But because you're unwilling to put in the hours to get a good deal on rake, you flame the players that do, and call the RB whores.

In your mind, it seems that you don't even consider the impact rake has on winrate. You can see a guy with a 3bb/100 winrate on a site with low rake but low rakeback, and call him a hero, while you flame a 0bb/100 player playing on a site with more rake and higher rakeback, and call him a whore, even if the 0bb/100 player would have the higher "non rakeback" win rate if the two were compared evenly.

Hell, I'd be willing to bet that if a site raked 100% of pots, then gave 98% of it back to the player in the form of points, which the player then spent for cash, you'd call them rakeback whores and laugh at their bb/100.

Anything to convince yourself you're good at poker without having to honestly look at your game.