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Old 04-12-2010, 05:57 AM   #2656
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Re: PokerStars statement on min/max buyin on big bet tables

I do not consider 35BB 'shortstacking' at the moment. The 20BB shortstack push/fold strategy does NOT work with 35BB.
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:44 AM   #2657
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Re: PokerStars statement on min/max buyin on big bet tables

really expect some sort of announcement today, even if the changes aren't implemented till the 20th... I mean, as someone noted earlier, the policy part of the procedure must be complete even if the actual changes have not materialised yet.
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:53 AM   #2658
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:23 AM   #2659
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Re: PokerStars statement on min/max buyin on big bet tables

Anyone on teh VIP Player Panel want to spill some beenz?
Like are there going to be any changes at all?
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:42 AM   #2660
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really expect some sort of announcement today, even if the changes aren't implemented till the 20th... I mean, as someone noted earlier, the policy part of the procedure must be complete even if the actual changes have not materialised yet.
Based on Stars' history on announcing time frames for changes to anything, I'd say not likely...

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Old 04-12-2010, 12:02 PM   #2661
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Re: PokerStars statement on min/max buyin on big bet tables

iPoker raised there MinBuyin's to 30BBs today...
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:10 PM   #2662
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I'd love to see 200BB deep tables. Holy crap.

However, at the moment, I'd be abundantly satisfied with 35BB min like the euro tables. Yes, that's right, you can't shortstack euro tables.
they have 250bb tables with antes but only at 2-4 5-10 and 10-20, more will be coming i am sure.

and SSing is still kind of effective with 35bb at NL due to the hand strengths being further apart. but they will have to play one more street most of the time MWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

in PLO 35bb would be much better to stopping the infestation.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:12 PM   #2663
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iPoker raised there MinBuyin's to 30BBs today...
Not enough to kill the short stacker action I guess. But a first step!
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:25 PM   #2664
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:35 PM   #2665
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I don't agree with MyTurn2Raise regarding casual players who like buying in for more than 50BB preferring to do this at 20-100bb tables instead of 50-100bb. He's not putting enough stock in other factors such as seats opening up much more often at 20-100bb tables. Many shortstackers win a few big blinds, wait for their big blind, and then leave the table.

I've thought for a while that the surveying of casual players by Pokerstars was the best way to understand their preferences. I've though of other ways and tend to run into roadblocks. This is what I have now, and first we'll look at players who don't buyin for the default:

For 20-100: Take the number of casual players who buyin for 50BB or more at 20-100 tables and divide that by the number of seats which opened up at 20-100bb tables. Discount this to some extent because 20-100bb tables are the default table. If this number, before discounting, is bigger than the same ratio at 50-100bb, it puts a serious dent into MyTurn2Raise argument, especially the lower the percent of players who buyin for teh default.
Players who buyin for the default should not be totally discounted from the calculations. Discount them somewhat - the discount doesn't have to be the same at 20-100bb as 50-100bb
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