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Old 02-05-2008, 08:04 PM   #176
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

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OK so shortstacking isn't an ethical concern, even though some here (not me) have claimed that it is. But answering that complaint is ignoring the more reasonable request: Some of us want to play on tables without shortstackers, why won't you give us the option? Yes I know 'deepstack' tables with bigger MAX buyins have failed elsewhere. But what about just raising the minimum buyin?
because the shortstacker protects the fish, which protects game availability, which protects rake
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:16 PM   #177
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A good solution is raising the time limit for ratholers to 60 or 90 minutes, not raising minimum buy-ins (which may affect weaker player's comfort in higher games)
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:20 PM   #178
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raising the time limit will have little to no effect
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:25 PM   #179
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raising the time limit will have little to no effect
It would affect professional shortstackers, that would have to combine more different stakes to be able to play many tables at the same time.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:40 PM   #180
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I second Jimmy. I hate the mystery of going to the river when your only opponent is all in, not knowing what he/she has.
Couldn't agree with this more, I HATE not seeing the other person's cards.

Also, please add a bet pot button.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:43 PM   #181
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Filter out PL or NL tables in the lobby.
Also like this one, it's annoying accidentally joining PL games instead of NL.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:19 PM   #182
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Couldn't agree with this more, I HATE not seeing the other person's cards.

Also, please add a bet pot button.
Please do not add a bet pot button. Do not give clues on how to play a hand correctly. Just load a AHK script for that.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:32 PM   #183
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because the shortstacker protects the fish, which protects game availability, which protects rake
Just have some tables where people have the ability to buyin deep--200-300BB and the minimum buy-in is 80-100bb. It can be just 1 per limit if they are realy that worried about the tables not filling up
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:01 PM   #184
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Couldn't agree with this more, I HATE not seeing the other person's cards.

Also, please add a bet pot button.
Nobody seems to object to cards being visible upon allin ONLY TO PLAYERS WHO WERE DEALT INTO THAT HAND. No datamining or privacy concerns that way.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:04 PM   #185
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Nobody seems to object to cards being visible upon allin ONLY TO PLAYERS WHO WERE DEALT INTO THAT HAND. No datamining or privacy concerns that way.
I do.

I do not want the distraction of sweating outs.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:00 AM   #186
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I think one of the bigger errors in the PS software is in the limit games.

Example: 5/10 limit. Blinds 2/5. Player A has $9.50 and open raises all-in UTG. The next players options are fold, call or raise to $10.

Could you please provide a HH or hand number where this happens so I can look at it more closely?


POKERSTARS GAME #14761734758: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2008/01/23 - 06:46:36 (ET)
Table 'Lysithea' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: flopking01 ($389 in chips)
Seat 2: l337O ($381.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Anne_dubdub ($23 in chips)
Seat 4: Bonillafan ($191 in chips)
Seat 5: vuki ($145 in chips)
flopking01: posts small blind $2
l337O: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bonillafan [Kd Qc]
Anne_dubdub: raises $5 to $10
Bonillafan: raises $5 to $15
vuki: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
flopking01: folds
l337O: folds
Anne_dubdub: calls $10
Bonillafan: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [4s Ks 9c]
Anne_dubdub: bets $3 and is all-in
Bonillafan: raises $2 to $5
vuki: calls $5

In this particular example...Anne_dub's all-in bet of $3 on the flop is equal to more than half of the normal bet, therefore should be considered a full bet, and Bonillafans raise should be a $5 raise (to $8) as a 2nd bet, not just $2. As it is now, vuki gets to call $5 (the typical 1-bet) even though there has already been 2-bets worth of action.

I will look for other examples that demonstrate this point further if needed.
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:14 AM   #187
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Please do not add a bet pot button. Do not give clues on how to play a hand correctly. Just load a AHK script for that.
Qft truth, the bet pot button makes it to easy for bad players to be aggro with big bets, now they bet like 2bbs into a 10bb pot which is a lot easier to deal with. This is one reason I luv stars, if they got a bet pot button Id go str8 to AP just cuz they are the only ones with no bet pot button.
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:46 AM   #188
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

arrrggh.
please let me join a wait-list when the last empty-seat has been grabbed but the player taking the seat hasn't bought-in yet.

I open the table and just miss grabbing the last seat...and the guy takes FOREVER to enter his buy-in. So I can't join the waitlist because it won't freaking let me.
So I wait and wait and wait for him to finally buy-in so I can join the waitlist...
OR..even better...he decides he doesn't want the seat or gets kicked-off for not buying-in in time...and then some other guy who was watching the table also grabs the seat right away and then he also takes forever to enter his buy-in.

I just want to join the damn waitlist already!!!!
I don't want to have to sit there and stare at the table for 60 seconds or something waiting for the waitlist button to becomes available.



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Old 02-06-2008, 01:59 AM   #189
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

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Do you have a stance on rat-holing? (The practice of profiting, leaving for 30 minutes, and then returning without risking winnings).

I think that it's not the shortstacking that people think is unethical, it's the fact that they can double up and then return in 30 minutes only to buy in for the minimum again. This would be highly, highly frowned upon in live casinos, and I was just curious if PokerStars has a stance on this?
Actually this is not frowned upon in casinos, it's just harder to do depending on where you live.....

I can go to the MGM, jump in a 2/5 NL game, double up, then go play a different game (say 1/2NL) for a while.... after 30 mins or an hour or whatever it is I can go back to my 2/5NL game and buy in for the min again.....

Sure, it might be annoying to some players, but you are allowed to do it as long as you follow the time limits.

The time should be shorter online than it is live as well because there are FAR more games to chose from online.

I don't see a problem with people doing this as it is well within the bounds of the rules.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:51 AM   #190
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

in no particular order of importance.

1) dont make people autofold when their timebank runs out. who would ever do that? the default action should be check. or atleast implement something that makes it easier for ahk scripters to make it check. i heard dave saying something about the current setup makes it hard to do this.

2) the option for "show and fold" in cash games

3) ability to highlight multiple tables in the lobby, right click and join. this would make it alot easier for multitablers to join multiple tables.

4) ability to highlight multiple tables in the lobby, right click and join waiting list for all of them.

5) ability to remove yourself from multiple waiting lists. this is useful since i guess alot of multitablers just get on a load of waiting lists, and then when they have x amount of tables open stop joining those tables. this has gotta be a good thing since waiting lists will be more clear to make way for more fish to join them.

6) swap seat / waiting list for particular seat on a table. its so annoying when ive been on a table for 3hours where a fish has position on me, then the guy behind him leaves...and i cant leave and rejoin the table in time to get the seat. especially with loads of other tables popping up in the way. there should be a waiting list for particular seats imo. if not a waiting list, then atleast if its empty the ability to right click and "sit here" --and not just the rotation of the table.

7) reload to max every hand - obviously this isnt very important since ahks already do this...but it should be part of the software i think.

8) have some sort of graphical interface to make the creation of skins alot easier...so it isn't only open to people who know about how to change all the files etc. this would get the more artistic type people spending more time inside the pokerstars software, and would make it more enjoyable for themselves playing on their own skins etc => more fish having fun => $$ for us

9) built in stop loss in the "responsible gaming" feature u have added. so it forces you to sit out after you lose x buyins until you type in your username/password again or something. this is probably bad for the games since it stops people like me tilting off big chuks of my bankroll in one sitting.

10) in tournaments, the autoaddon and autorebuy feature would be good.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:09 AM   #191
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-Increase the ratholing time to 7 days. Neuter 'pro ratholers' while not bothering the fish at all since they rarely play more than 1 or 2 tables. They can just find another one and that's assuming they don't want to continue playing on their lucky table where they already ran their min buyin up. Increasing the min buyin, even just slightly to something like 35BB would also work just as well.

-Ability to save my default buyin amount in BB so I don't have to change it everytime I join a table.

-Ability to autorebuy to a specified default amount in cash games rather than just min.

-Ability to enable autorebuy to a certain amount if I'm ever below that rather than only after I get stacked.

-Some way to bring any tables where I am sitting out to the front. When you time out on a table when using a cascaded view it's extremely difficult to ever get it back.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:47 AM   #192
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Increase ratholing time to 4 hours
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:48 AM   #193
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Please do not add a bet pot button. Do not give clues on how to play a hand correctly. Just load a AHK script for that.
I have a mac so we don't have the bet the pot script option. I like the this feature on tilt so I hope Stars adds it.
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:31 AM   #194
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Show cards has a problem.

I can't see the cards as they disappear too fast. All I see is a flicker and a show cards message. Have too look it up in the hand history which seems a bit silly.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:28 AM   #195
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

Using the hyper-simple theme...

The cards of other players still in the hand are black on a black table background. Non-sensical. Makes it hard to tell at a glance how many players are still in the pot when you are multi-tabling and only have a second to glance at the table and reconstruct the action.

Make card backs a bright, patterned design that will stand out against the black cyber-felt.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:29 AM   #196
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

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-Increase the ratholing time to 7 days. Neuter 'pro ratholers' while not bothering the fish at all since they rarely play more than 1 or 2 tables. They can just find another one and that's assuming they don't want to continue playing on their lucky table where they already ran their min buyin up. Increasing the min buyin, even just slightly to something like 35BB would also work just as well.
this isnt a ridiculous suggestion at all
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:29 AM   #197
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Oh yeah I played some on FT and having cards flipped is a lot more stressful for me.

I like having cards down because I dont see results and usually dont even notice badbeats/etc.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:16 PM   #198
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Oh yeah I played some on FT and having cards flipped is a lot more stressful for me.

I like having cards down because I dont see results and usually dont even notice badbeats/etc.
no.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:22 PM   #199
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Oh yeah I played some on FT and having cards flipped is a lot more stressful for me.

I like having cards down because I dont see results and usually dont even notice badbeats/etc.
I have to agree with CHOO CHOO here.

Flipping cards up in ring games when AI is just a bad suggestion imo. If i take a beat i don't want to worry about it, i just reload when i make the call and move on.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:03 PM   #200
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No it isn't.
God dammit I love Pokerstars.
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