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Old 02-02-2008, 03:49 PM   #91
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

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get rid of short stackers. its sooo ethically wrong i duno how these guys sleep at night

if you wana gay stack, go play sngs
I want to play NL poker like they do the worlds largest card room, the Commerce. Please lower the maximum buy in.
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:49 PM   #92
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I've done it a total of about 10 times in the last 4 years. In all cases it was a combo of getting information and tilting a player that I didn't care for at the table.

sandviper - This would be a better topic for B&M I guess although, as I mentioned, it's been done a zillion times.
But the reasons you stated for doing it are not supposed to be valid reasons for enforcing the IWTSTH rule. I am against you doing this even 10x in the past 4 years and think it's pretty inappropriate.

Yes, in some rooms you are technically within your rights to do this. But most 2+2'ers think that if it is not collusion-suspicion related you should not be doing this...even if you think the tilt-advantage you might gain would be significant.
I am among the 2+2'ers who feel this way and I have never enforced the IWTSTH rule.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:02 PM   #93
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I want to play NL poker like they do the worlds largest card room, the Commerce. Please lower the maximum buy in.
I guess Stars should rake $4 every flop too.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:09 PM   #94
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All of these would be huge improvements.

Originally Posted by steel108

Also, it would nice to have a full cards option like Tilt. Sometimes it is hard to see you cards when you have multiple tables running.


Originally Posted by JIMMYONTILT
On cash tables when there are all ins please please please show the cards before board is dealt.


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For the No Images Themes, remove player boxes on the empty seats in cash games. Make it like your tournament games. When no one is sitting there, have the player box disappear. So much easier to track the number of players at the table when multitabling.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:38 PM   #95
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

this thread is turning into less about the actual software, and more about adjusting the ethical/non-ethical style issues of Stars' policy. this is a bit of an off-topic rant, but:

showing cards when all-in is retarded. i repeat, retarded. the "benefit" you get from having a little peace of mind or whatever will be heavily outweighed by the negative impact of the weaker players (your customers) seeing that they're getting it in bad more often than not. keep the fish happy, imo, in every way. the idea that it's only shown to the players who are all-in doesn't make much sense either, as the fish will just assume that it's shown to all.

the shortstack/rathole thing is also an ethical issue, and while I don't necessarily mind shortstacking, the ratholing is horribly gross in terms of ethics and there is no reason why this shouldn't be changed. minimum buyin should be at pokerstars' disgression, but i feel very strongly against the fact that players are allowed to rathole (something that they would get murdered for in any live setting). 2 hours minimum, imo
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:51 PM   #96
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KLJ - I agree although a lot of the software stuff does end up on kind of a fine-line so it's difficult to distinguish it all entirely.

But, as expected, I'll try:

The ethical and actual 'rules' stuff are different than 'software improvements' such as improving the wait-list stuff, eliminating seats from the table completely when unoccupied, allowing people to buy-in for their own preferred amount automatically without having to manually enter it every time, etc etc.

Changing the rules or policies for short-stackers or rat-holers as well as the cards-up thing aren't as much 'software' improvements. These are 'policy' requests/improvements or something like that.

The software-functionality people at Stars probably have no say in whether the cards get to be turned face-up in cash-games or not. It's up to other 'rules and policy' people at Stars to decide that and then THEY tell the software people, "we've made a chance in our rules...so you need to change that in the software."


This thread should be for the stuff that the software people can fix without them really needing to think about other ethical stuff.
i guess the request to have wait-list and occupied tables highlighted in different colors as well as joining waitlists for multiple tables at a time as well as auto-top-off or whatever can also be viewed as 'ethical' things as well because they are mostly going to be requested by massive multi-tablers who are looking to make their own lives easier.

But, for the most part, they are direct software improvements and not as much 'rules policies' I think.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:44 PM   #97
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if i could only have one thing, it would most definitely be:
higher minimum buyin (at least 40BB, 50 would be practical and kind of nice)

if i could have other stuff:
take care of the ratholing: 30 minutes is really, really ridiculous, and i really don't see a reason why this number was chosen. the only people who would ever complain are the people who rathole their stacks, which is extremely unethical. obviously anything more than 30 minutes would be nicer, but i don't see a reason why this shouldnt be 2 hours at the minimum (and who this would negatively affect).
+1 I think changing the minimum to 30bbs would be suficient, I have read what others have said about this topic and I think 30 is the perfect amount to let the fish play for free and really make it hard for ratholers to operate.

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Old 02-02-2008, 07:47 PM   #98
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oh btw leave choo choo alone
stop ratholing
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:49 PM   #99
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I would like to see something so you can choose to only see the stakes you want to play in thye lobby. Under the "ring game filter" please add a filter for the stakes you want to filter in or out. So under Fixed Limit Hold'em (Low) stakes there would be a filter option for $3/$6, $2/$4, $1/$2 and $0.50/$1 as well as the heads up tables. Thanks .
this is one thing I liked about party softwarewise and stars should def. do the same

PLEASEEEEE FIX the hand history windows so there are similar to the full tilt hh windows, stars hhs are so hard to look at while ftp's has the a picture says a thousand words motto going.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:58 PM   #100
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I would like to see something so you can choose to only see the stakes you want to play in thye lobby. Under the "ring game filter" please add a filter for the stakes you want to filter in or out. So under Fixed Limit Hold'em (Low) stakes there would be a filter option for $3/$6, $2/$4, $1/$2 and $0.50/$1 as well as the heads up tables. Thanks .
I would like this too.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:59 PM   #101
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However, in all of the casinos that I have played in (25+) any player dealt in the hand can request to see a player's hand that went to a showdown... IF they suspect collusion, otherwise it's considered very bad etiquette and will get you punched in the face.
lol where the hell do u play? In Russia, Id expect this type of behavior to get u thrown out of a casino and arrested for assult. Seriously think before u post.
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:09 PM   #102
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At casinos, I request to see mucked showdown cards ALL the time.

Yes im a dick
But who cares, I'm here to take your money.
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:26 PM   #103
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

- Raise the minimum buyin to 40 BBs.

- Sit out next BIG blind.

- Shift + click a table to join/unjoin various waiting lists.

imo showing the cards when all in @ ring games would be a mistake.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:11 PM   #104
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Re: **OFFICIAL Stars Software Improvement Thread***

I would like a better hand history. Something visual. Sometimes I like to look at the last hand played. I like how it is on Cake, where it gives you a large graphic and timeline (though I'd like it to default to 4 color cards if you already have the option checked). Or at least like FTP where I can see, visually, the cards that everyone had in the last hand.

Also, I'd like the 1/2 pot and pot buttons from FTP to be added. I like the slider on Stars but it would be even better if those 2 buttons were added as well.

And I agree with the people who've already stated to show the cards when all-in. I also agree about a global "sit out" and "I'm back" option so I don't have to select every table when I'm multitabling.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:13 PM   #105
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[QUOTE=Dilznoofus;2523864]For the No Images Themes, remove player boxes on the empty seats in cash games. Make it like your tournament games. When no one is sitting there, have the player box disappear. So much easier to track the number of players at the table when multitabling.

If not that, at least make the empty seat boxes look different from the other player boxes, by darkening them or making them a different color.

It would also be good to do this for the avatar-enable tables, though it's not as big a deal on those themes.


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+1 Million
Also. Pleas change the Font colors on the No Images Themes as well. The Gray text in the Upper-Left for stack size, as well as the yellow text on the buttons, is really hard to see, and doesnt work well with most XThemes.


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