**PokerStars Software Improvement Thread*** - Page 6 - Internet Poker

CharlieDontSurf · 02-02-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m bozeman

A solution for the "show both players holecards when allin in a cash game"

You obviously know your hole cards, but on YOUR SCREEN ONLY, it will reveal his cards to you, so you see what you are up against. The other players at the table don't see either of your hands until showdown.

Possible?

I like it.

Thoughts Jeff?

I know people have been asking for this for years but Stars seems very against it...so I doubt anything will be changed. But this version solves some of the problems most would have with flipping the cards up for everyone to see

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JIMMYONTILT

On cash tables when there are all ins please please please show the cards before board is dealt.

no

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Unjoin all Waitlists button.

Something in the lobby to let you know which tables you are already on the waiting list for. Color coded maybe.

yes

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

I think the wait-list stuff could be improved.
It shows a button to 'join waitlist' even if you are already sitting at the table which seems pretty stupid.
When I look at the lobby and see some high pot-avg's on some tables I have to go to each table in the lobby to see if I'm already sitting there or not. If you're playing 12+ tables it's not like I'm going to recognize the name "Niobe" as one of the tables I'm on.

Highlighting in different colors the tables you are already seated at and the tables you are already on the wait-list for would be really helpful.
Green line for tables at which you are already seated.
Yellow line for tables where you're on the wait-list.

agreed!

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

I too would like to see what the deal is when all the chips are all-in.
If my KK is up against an AA then I might as well try to get in that re-buy right-away before I get sat-out.

rebuy everytime you are allin.

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo

Improvements to be made:

sit out next big blind button disappears, it should always be available
(although this is prob a marketing scheme to get us to play more orbits when we want to leave)

Ratholers only have to wait 30 minutes before re-joining a table with the minimum buyin.
This is clearly against the code and spirit of the game. You obviously could not do this in a live game repeatedly day in and out without threat of serious bodily injury. Why does stars support unethical behavior?

Timing out last to act should be a check, not a fold
seriously

Agree with all.

and

Please make it 1 hour for the ratholers!

This will affect the shortstackers though, so not sure if stars will go for it but I'm all for it and I like being able to buy back in for what I had built my stack up to 40 minutes ago.

fozzy71 · 02-02-2008, 02:34 PM

Multi-Quote????

VielGeld · 02-02-2008, 02:35 PM

get rid of short stackers. its sooo ethically wrong i duno how these guys sleep at night

if you wana gay stack, go play sngs

**Alobar** · 02-02-2008, 02:38 PM

I Dont believe for a second that the fish care one way or the other if their hole cards get shown, if I did I would be vehemently against having them shown, since it would obviously be -EV. I also dont give a rats ass if some data miner gets to record my hole cards 1 more time out of 300 hands, whoopee do.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FLIP UP THE GOD DAMNED HOLE CARDS!!!!!!!!! &$#%#&*$%(#*$&%!!!!!!!!!!

also, a real buddy list feature would be nice. Where I can see whos online and when I click their name it shows what table they are at, sorta like how it is for the pros. (please dont link me the software that supposedly does this, I already know it exists, I dont want to use it)

I dont want to see deep stacked tables, cuz I like the morons that buy in short at the limits I play. I would however like to see the rathole limit increased from 30 mins to say like 2 hours, that or make the min like 40bb, since I dont think it will get any less fish to play, but still thwarts the solid shortstacker

Auto rebuy to fullstack when I bust. Nothing tilts me more than not getting my rebuy done in time, and starting the next hand with the 20bb the software currently rebuys me for, and im already on tilt from not getting to see my opponents hole cards $@#%$#%!!!!!

THE DEFAULY OPTION WHEN TIMING OUT SHOULD BE "CHECK", seriously, thats like the basic level of common sense, this having not been fixed is insanely retarded.

I would also like that if people who have their chat banned, when you highlight there name it says so (like next to their city or something)

Cake has a feature that I LOVE, when there is an all in at the table, all chat is disabled. That feature is so +EV its unreal. 1 it cuts out all the stupid Jamie Gold Hollywooding, and two (and most importantly) some ****stick assbag who isnt in the hand isnt able to try and demonstrate how intelligent he is by announcing "he obviously has a set, you should fold"

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fozzy71

Multi-Quote????

I never noticed that multi-quote button. Always wondered how they did that.

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Originally Posted by fozzy71

This is NOT how it is in Casino CASH games.

This can be confusing either way.

When two players are all in preflop, the dealers will sometime say, lets see them and players will turn them over anyway although they don't have to at the Dealer's request.

However, in all of the casinos that I have played in (25+) any player dealt in the hand can request to see a player's hand that went to a showdown.

**MicroBob** · 02-02-2008, 02:57 PM

sandviper - the fact that they CAN request to see the player's hand is much of why they let you see the mucked-hands in the HH.
The 'I want to see that hand' rule has been discussed ad nauseum in the B&M forum. It is only SUPPOSED to be used in cases of suspected collusion but that doesn't stop a lot of ignorant people from trying to use it just for information purposes although after awhile if it is clear there is no suspected collusion even that can be stopped at certain casinos.

I'm guessing you play a bit more live poker internationally. I've never been to a place where the dealer says "lets see them" in a cash-game all-in. Both players are all-in, dealer runs the board, the players either turn them up or they don't as is their choice. Most turn them up but i've been noticing more and more electing not to.
Dealer doesn't encourage this at all...at least not in most normal American games I've played in.

westhoff · 02-02-2008, 03:02 PM

However, in all of the casinos that I have played in (25+) any player dealt in the hand can request to see a player's hand that went to a showdown... IF they suspect collusion, otherwise it's considered very bad etiquette and will get you punched in the face.

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

sandviper - the fact that they CAN request to see the player's hand is much of why they let you see the mucked-hands in the HH.
The 'I want to see that hand' rule has been discussed ad nauseum in the B&M forum. It is only SUPPOSED to be used in cases of suspected collusion but that doesn't stop a lot of ignorant people from trying to use it just for information purposes although after awhile if it is clear there is no suspected collusion even that can be stopped at certain casinos.

I'm guessing you play a bit more live poker internationally. I've never been to a place where the dealer says "lets see them" in a cash-game all-in. Both players are all-in, dealer runs the board, the players either turn them up or they don't as is their choice. Most turn them up but i've been noticing more and more electing not to.
Dealer doesn't encourage this at all...at least not in most normal American games I've played in.

The only casino i've played in internationally was the Holland Casino in Amsterdam.

I've played in just about every casino in vegas, (thats where I normally live)
I'm not really talking about highstakes games, but in casinos like the Excalibur, the dealers are told to say, "okay, lets see them, like on TV"

Sandviper23 · 02-02-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by westhoff

However, in all of the casinos that I have played in (25+) any player dealt in the hand can request to see a player's hand that went to a showdown... IF they suspect collusion, otherwise it's considered very bad etiquette and will get you punched in the face.

I've done it a total of about 10 times in the last 4 years. In all cases it was a combo of getting information and tilting a player that I didn't care for at the table.

**MicroBob** · 02-02-2008, 03:44 PM

ok...good enough.
Rooms are allowed to have such a policy if they want I guess.
Just seems kind of unusual from my experience.