thanks i read your post.. it makes sense that you allot a maximum amount of time for the whole tourney.. what I (and many other players are asking for) is to make it progressive.. so if you allot 240 seconds to a tourney then make it start with 60 and add to it with time... and PLEASE add another 60 seconds to final tables.. it's so disheartening to get there and be playing for life-changing money and not have a time-bank to think through decisions.. I refer to you this post so you see there are many others that share this opinion..

could you guys add some step 4, 9 man satties for wcoop#38 (530$ 1R, 1A), to replace the old ones you had for the sunday 530 that happened today, would really appreciate it, it seems like a no brainer since it would give people more chances to sattie into the event...

Let me start with two simple ideas then and examples for illustration.


Last month Pokerstars had a few mixed rebuy tourneys -may be you had them before, but I didn't discover them-.
Though they were pot limit I played them anyway, because I like rebuys most and Pokerstars has only very few of them.
I played them the 20th, 21st and 22nd and then they got lost in between all the other tourneys and no matter how I play with my filter I can't find them back.

So how about a special list with your favorite tourneys, so you don't have to miss them because you can't see the trees through the forrest?


To be able to multitable and watch all the tables at the same time I have a special screen.
With the control 9 option the tables will automatically adjust to your screensize which is nice.
However this is combined with a tiny little slider and no pre select buttons.

So here is what typically happens all the time. One -crazy- table I sit in the button with kings BB = 120 and most of the table limps. So I have to make a bet big enough to get most of the donkeys out, but leave at least one in. I wanna bet around 780, because one small stack has about twice that and could be triggered to shove. But then the fight with the slider starts. It goes over a 1000, back to 360 and at another table I pick up aces in the big blind 8K. Well, that is obviously more important so I quickly make the 360 bet. Everybody calls and the big blind beats me with 73s.
If I was watching that I would quickly make a note how stupid that guy played his kings.

Let me repeat this happens all the time! I don't make the bets I really want, but am fighting the stupid slider instead, which got nothing to do with poker.
Any mathematical advantage is gone and I am also guaranteed to give a timing tell every time I have a big hand.
This is very annoying, makes it hard to pay attention and pretty much impossible to play a decent amount of tables.

So an option to choose a bigger slider and pre select buttons would be great for pokerplayers and stars.


Ps. I know you can type the exact amount instead, but my fingers are too thick for that and I would still give the timing tell.

Alex Scott,

I like to play with my chat enabled but get put on tilt whenever there is non-english chat going on. Currently end users must hover their mouse over the chat tab to see English only chat is allowed but how many players honestly do that? My wish is to have a Dealer message before games begin stating all chat must be in english only. Having this more visible I feel will reduce the calls to moderators and maybe more players will actually follow the rule seeing it from the start. Ask the mods how many times they are called for this complaint and I'm sure the answer is lots. It's also like one line of code so please consider it.

When tournaments for which you have registered fill up, there is a pause as the new table is opened. This is very annoying whilst multitabling as it interferes with the action on the table you are acting on. Would it be possible for the new tables to open in the background instead?

they've said this was impossible before as it is something that windows does, not stars, but it would be absolutely amazing if someone could come up with a fix for this.

Damn. I had a feeling that was the case, but no harm asking.

Is anyone else against the introduction of euro cash games? Splitting of the action and all that?

There are a lot of people against splitting the games, and they've voiced their opinions in this thread. However, Stars seems to be very committed to this project.

Hmm, now I'm on 2p2 I was gonna post about this myself, but seems the question is already out there, and like many computer problems, the answer has come back "Blame Windows".

I may be pretty new to 2p2, but been a stars player for quite a long while, and played nearly 10,000 tourneys in various formats over the years, so not exactly a johnny-come-lately.

So, picture this, familiar to many I'm sure. I register for a 'set' of 25 turbo DoNs, (and like most people with that volume, I stack, not tile or cascade) so obv most are well into the action by the time the last few fill up. You then get three or four tables not yet started suddenly pop up in front of the one that demands action. You can spend ages fighting against the new tables opening up, frantically Alt+Tab-ing through to find the table you want, by which time action is on you on several more tables, and you'll probably time out and sit out on one or two of them, which come to the front as well, denying access to the next one needing action etc. etc. and it's a vicious circle. By the time I get all 25 open and ensure I'm not sitting out any more on them, I'm already tilting furiously like a bar-steward at the stupidity of it cos somewhere I probably min-bet AA in a rush rather than have it autofold and now have five callers who were given excellent value to call preflop, and I'm now effectively set-mining the best starting hand in the book


SO, what about a possible solution............ Windows triggers the bring-to-front manœuvre when the table window is created by the last registering person filling the tourney, so why not cheat Windows? Why can't there be written into the Stars software, a feature to hold closed new tables that are about to launch even though the SNG has filled up, until you have a gap in action, and you can then choose when YOU want to fire them all up, by pressing a button which will open any new tables. You know you've regged for them and that they'll be there waiting, but it's about a minute between seating and first cards dealt, so plenty of time to find a spot to hit the "Launch" button. Perhaps with an option to toggle on/off in the main lobby for people who pre-reg scheduled MTTs or wait on cash tables and won't necessarily know when they will be available.

Which brings me to the finish of tourneys....... Why oh why when the tournament ends do they have to pop to the front again, when tables have fewer players and action is coming round faster, while the decisions are becoming ever more important? I guess someone will say "MS Windows" again, but surely this is because you get the 3D box which comes up telling you either you won, or got knocked out in x-th place. Well, I'm still playing a couple dozen other tables, and either way I have no more actions on this one, so right now I don't give a damn. Once again, surely once again we can cheat Windows, just lose the line which say "produce (annoying) 3D object" and then the empty table won't come to the front. Cos if I was only 1-tabling, well I saw it anyway, and if I'm multitabling, well I have more important things to worry about, because poker is a game about decisions not results. I can then close the windows when I finish my set, or once again, introduce a button which you can press at your leisure, which says "Close all finished tables".

Now I don't know how feasible this suggestion is, but I'd either like to see this attempted, or a pretty good reason why it can't be? CBA is not a good reason, cos there are clearly plenty of people who would like to see something done about this.

Sorry for essay.... Short version below, but wanted to describe properly

Cliff notes

1) Multi tabling SNG-ers to be able to choose when to launch a new table by hitting a button
2) On/off toggle for above to cater for scheduled MTT and those on cash game wait list
3) Get rid of the code which brings up a 3D box on a table where you have no further decisions
4) A button to close the above tables, again at the time of choice of the SNG-er

It's a nuisance, but I think you're having more trouble than you should. Are you using any AHK scripts? StarsHotKeys, for example, has a button which will take you to any table needing action (with a slider visible - it doesn't detect all-ins for technical reasons - but when you're playing so many tables, you should have at least some tables that require action without all-in, after which the usual pop up table requiring action thing takes over again).

Not a bad idea. Even if the tourney starts before you get a gap in play, it could just have you as sitting out.

Excellent idea. I'd not be bothered about an extra button cluttering the interface - a checkbox in the "Advanced Multitable options" to automatically close completed tables would be sufficient. (This might be something that's easily scriptable...I've not looked into it)

In Windows, Alt+Escape puts the currently active table at the back.

This may be useful for people to use when a new window pops up - Press Alt+Escape and the table/window that you previously had at the front returns.

well?

WOW i am so tilted right now

lately on stars i seem to be getting this "double click" problem, where i select an action on one table, then my next table pops up and ive clicked again. in the last 5 minutes ive insta shipped J8 vs massive action, and insta FOLDED AA (stacking tables). god this is ridiculous

ive only had this problem since the latest update

It might be a good idea to implement an advanced multi-table option so that when a table pops up ontop of one you've just acted on its impossible to act on that table for 0.5-1second. This would stop the double click problem while playing with overlap.

IF I TIME OUT WITH NO TIMEBANK IN A 50K CHIP POT IN A WCOOP AND I HAVE THE OPTION TO CHECK, I SHOULD CHECK AND NOT ****ING OPEN FOLD

I was just thinking about this some more. Most of these mistakes happen when im pre-selecting an action and a table pops up ontop of that area causing me to fold/call/raise. The single click table activation works decent when you examin this scenario specifically but can be extremely annoying in every other scenario - thats why i have it disabled.

An option where if a table pops up you just cant act on it for 0.5 seconds (obv adv. MT options) would be a nice solution imo.

You have got to fix the situation of when we are on a waiting list and called to a game. It totally steals the focus and we can't do anything till we respond to that pop up. It can cause catastrophic results at a critical time in cash games.

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Sorry, but this is bad IMO. I 25-table on occasion, and browsing this forum it seems that plenty of players do 30+, some even claim 50+. Having a 1 second delay, or even 0.5 second, would be catastrophic for mass multi-tabling on this scale. I can fold six or eight junk hands in early position in that single second if there is suddenly a rush of tables demanding action, or check for free in BB, or shove like an über-donk if I really want to, but having to wait would be terrible, leading to time-outs and sit-outs everywhere. Surely no volume multi-tabler wants this.

Just get out of the habit of pre-selecting the check-boxes IMO, and wait for each table to pop up in its rightful turnn with the normal action buttons. Don't really know why online tables have this actually, it's effectively a virtual-act-out-of-turn option, which if you did it every hand would get you slung out of B&M casinos.

Or maybe simply just your mouse button is sticking a bit after too much poker and you need a new mouse.


EDIT: Or tile instead of stacking

They're not asking for it to be the default, just an option. Calm down.

Ahh OK. Good point, well made. Sorry sd0

But I still maintain that using the pre-select boxes is a bad habit, and he just needs a new mouse

See, this is where I think I'll benefit from joining this forum, hopefully I can give something back too. I had to google starshotkeys and it's deffo worth further investigation. Thanks angry_man. TableNinja looks interesting too, but not free. I just sat down and got on with pokerage, without considering bolt-on software. Don't know why Stars shouldn't polish up their own product though, instead of leaving it to others. Am already looking at holdem-manager/poker-tracker too as a result of reading other forum stuff.


Wow, possibly my first good idea on here. I'm not just a pretty face after all Hope it's pretty simple for Stars to add to program

And this is generally where I get a bit over-exciteed, come up with quite a good idea but then over elaborate it. Why I didn't just suggest autoclose without user interaction I don't know, but never mind programming, I am generally a computer spaz, e.g. gave up trying to understand the whole iPod/iTunes thing, and gone back to reading books on trains/planes etc. Have always tried to keep it simple. Got the hang of email and web, but not programming etc., so I just hope some of this might be feasible for someone who knows about this sort of stuff.

Well, i was just suggesting the option be made available. It doesnt mean you need to use it if you dont want to.

Maybe you're right though =]

I'd love to be able to color code player's names.

Also, it would be cool if hands you were sitting out still got recorded in your hand history for you to review later.

Do they still read this thread?

Why is it still sit out next blind, instead of sit out next BIG blind? This issue is extremely annoying when trying to take a break while multitabling.