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Pokerstars "satellites" - just feeding the regs? Pokerstars "satellites" - just feeding the regs?

02-20-2014 , 04:46 PM
A couple of years ago I talked with a player at UKIPT in London who resorted to a direct buy in after trying to sat in via Stars.

He informed me there are players who were making very good money from these sats winning 20 seats plus.

I agree one seat only and no more this gives others a chance to enjoy the game and the live experience from all over Europe and more who can promote Stars win win.
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02-20-2014 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
A couple of years ago I talked with a player at UKIPT in London who resorted to a direct buy in after trying to sat in via Stars.

He informed me there are players who were making very good money from these sats winning 20 seats plus.

I agree one seat only and no more this gives others a chance to enjoy the game and the live experience from all over Europe and more who can promote Stars win win.
You are missing my point about the need for regs while also proving my point about the market for selling additional seats.

Right now as I type there are 3 people playing the UKIPT Nottingham 100 pound tourney. That's the min. amount for it to even run. Regs are needed.

The person that bought in directly could have purchased a package off of a qualifier that wants to sell his seat.
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02-20-2014 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
You are missing my point about the need for regs while also proving my point about the market for selling additional seats.

Right now as I type there are 3 people playing the UKIPT Nottingham 100 pound tourney. That's the min. amount for it to even run. Regs are needed.

The person that bought in directly could have purchased a package off of a qualifier that wants to sell his seat.
I do understand your point, there still needs to be a limit on the number of seats a player can win there are to many regs in these games and all games!
It leaves the recreational/novice player with a bad experience.
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02-20-2014 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
I do understand your point, there still needs to be a limit on the number of seats a player can win there are to many regs in these games and all games!
It leaves the recreational/novice player with a bad experience.
There isn't so many regs because if there were then the regs wouldn't be playing them. Obviously the regs feel there are enough recs to make these tourneys profitable.

The unique thing about the UKIPT is the online leaderboard which makes this tour so difficult in particular. I don't know if it still exists but this has to go for a number of reasons...
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02-21-2014 , 02:56 AM
These things wouldnt be 10 seat guars if there werent all these regs in them. You either wouldnt have no guar or it'd be so small it wouldnt attract as many recs.
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02-21-2014 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
There isn't so many regs because if there were then the regs wouldn't be playing them. Obviously the regs feel there are enough recs to make these tourneys profitable.

The unique thing about the UKIPT is the online leaderboard which makes this tour so difficult in particular. I don't know if it still exists but this has to go for a number of reasons...
I played an EPT satellite last night (215 double chance). When there were 21 players registered I checked the Qualifiers pages, and 12 of those 21 had tickets already. They included the likes of BrynKenney, Zackattak13, blanconegro etc. In the two satellites I looked at last night, 5 of the 8 "winners" had tickets already.

I know that your point about some satellites not running is correct, but I think there is plenty of interest in EPT to keep them going - if they changed the rules they might need to reduce the number of tournaments a bit. In terms of Stars marketing.

Clearly Stars should allow someone who plays two overlapping satellites to take cash on the second if they win two tickets, but I don't see the logic in allowing these "fake" satellites. I have now given up - the first couple I entered were good value, but they are now just lost causes for me.
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02-21-2014 , 08:33 AM
What are the best guaranteed sats to play on Stars? Can someone make me a list please. Lol
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02-21-2014 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by futballer
What are the best guaranteed sats to play on Stars? Can someone make me a list please. Lol
I'm sure the regs raping these will get right on compiling you a list of tournaments to steal their EV in.
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02-21-2014 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by futballer
What are the best guaranteed sats to play on Stars? Can someone make me a list please. Lol
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tour...ule/?id=2#tabs
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02-21-2014 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rimlog
I played an EPT satellite last night (215 double chance). When there were 21 players registered I checked the Qualifiers pages, and 12 of those 21 had tickets already. They included the likes of BrynKenney, Zackattak13, blanconegro etc. In the two satellites I looked at last night, 5 of the 8 "winners" had tickets already.

I know that your point about some satellites not running is correct, but I think there is plenty of interest in EPT to keep them going - if they changed the rules they might need to reduce the number of tournaments a bit. In terms of Stars marketing.

Clearly Stars should allow someone who plays two overlapping satellites to take cash on the second if they win two tickets, but I don't see the logic in allowing these "fake" satellites. I have now given up - the first couple I entered were good value, but they are now just lost causes for me.
There is a definite difference between EPT's and the regional events...UKIPT, Estrellas etc. Satellites. The EPT's would have enough players to run.. and enough to hit their guarantee if players couldn't win additional seats. The regional tours don't have this same luxury as often these tourneys start with the min amount of players as I mentioned in yesterdays UKIPT Nottingham example.

What Pokerstars needs to do is sell the experience factor of their Live Events so more recs will try to play for them. The experience should be almost the same between EPT's and the Regional tours and the entry fee is the only difference.

Has anyone ever received an email saying that such and such pro will be in attendance for a regional event (the one in that players region)?

Has their ever been an email to that target player with a Link showing video footage of the welcome party or fun activities?

Only this past year has Stars improved themselves greatly in cross-marketing their tours... but there is so much more that can be done.

POY- There's a Player of the Year award for everything... why not one for all of Stars' tours? The concept would work where the players points must come from at least 5 (number irrelevant for now) different Stars tours.

BPOY- Breakout Player of the Year

This follows the same concept of above but it's confined to players that have played fewer then x amount of Stars sponsored live events. This players points would be tabulated from his top 3 finishes from only 3 tours.

This type of promo would get talented players (both serious and recreational) to venture out to new tours and the numbers would grow.
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02-21-2014 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Indefatigable.
Yes, you are being bitter hater. If you had won, this thread wouldn't exist. You took your shot and lost. Saying its unethical for stars to let people who won a seat play again is just laughable. Getting mad at winning players for winning again is like getting mad that carnivores eat herbivores. Welcome to the poker food chain.
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