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Old 07-14-2010, 04:27 PM   #46
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

DENY TIL U DIE PAL
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:28 PM   #47
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Completely retarded.
logic defying retardation

butnah srsly it was a great explanation tho

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Old 07-14-2010, 04:29 PM   #48
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

this is where the increased rake is going. lining this guy's pockets
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:32 PM   #49
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sry Chiren, looks like ur going to prison
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:34 PM   #50
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lol bs

It's quite clear you've made a prior arrangement with 3J55 to take advantage of this offer, so imo it's collusion. To deny otherwise seems a bit daft.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:35 PM   #51
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chiren this is really dumb no matter what the intention is. if you can't see why here's a link
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:36 PM   #52
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

They can't get banned, but stars will probly ask them to stop.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:37 PM   #53
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:48 PM   #54
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Chiren must be one of the stupidest people i have ever seen, he is so obviously abusing the promotion with hes friend to make a few bucks its accualy sickening.

I cant belive i accualy liked him, but this is just so dirty and low even if it is to make a few bucks for a friend. I hope he gets banned and all of his funds locked and kicked from Team Ps.

I cant belive pokerstars is accualy letting themself getting taken advantage off like this he is basically stealing from them, after everything they have done for him.

Im sure he will stop by now, but i hope pokerstars looks into it and see the clear collusion that has been going on.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:54 PM   #55
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

if they adhere to policy a warning explaining why this shouldn't be done is the next step.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:55 PM   #56
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 Cheating (dumping back/forth for VPPs?)

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He sits at 24(sitting out on most) €NL10 FR tables and shoving every hand preflop vs 3J55. When he has won a couple of stacks he leaves, then dumps it back to 3J55.

Is this allowed, I mean since he is a representant of PokerStars and maybe benefits from raking a lot?

Also they seem to sit out if other players sit in.
How much rake back do the PS Pros get?
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:02 PM   #57
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

No matter what his intentions was, this is so dirty that he deserves not only to get kicked and banned from pokerstars, he deserves to go to jail for TAX evasion because hes accualy losing to this kid purposely.

And i really doubt pokerstars made this microstakes player promotion so that theyre own pros could rake in as much % as possible by colluding with a friend losing back and forth. And leech of theyre employer as much $ as possible.

As a microstakes player i find this very offending. Isnt 100%+ rakeback and whatnot bonuses enough???? With any common sense he knew it was wrong to abuse the system like this he just did not care. And denying it is absolutely retarded.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:03 PM   #58
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

iirc the team online pros have a bonus up to 100K or so that the vpps/fpps clear but without going and looking the threads up that's all the further I'm willing to go on it.


also- the idea that one would preclear "reckless" play so it doesn't get confused with shady play is hilarious.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:06 PM   #59
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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he deserves to go to jail for TAX evasion because hes accualy losing to this kid purposely.
Wait, what?
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:06 PM   #60
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if they adhere to policy a warning explaining why this shouldn't be done is the next step.
I'm not sure if letter of the law adherence is really adequate in this situation. Stars should make an example of him to save a little face and to correct the original mistake of making this guy a 'pro' to begin with.

His dumb explanation just makes me angrier that he is actually getting paid to play on pokerstars.
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