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Old 07-14-2010, 07:39 PM   #151
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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lol everyone freaking out in this thread asking for chirens head was obviously a top notch hall monitor in school.
Think you're missing the point.

This guy slimes his way into an amazing opportunity someone else is not getting and turns out to be a complete douche whose dream ambition is to abuse the system for a couple of VPP's.

People are saying get this tool the FO of there and put a real player in his place, end of story.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:40 PM   #152
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

I've heard that Randy and Ricardo have given him a pass.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:41 PM   #153
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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I guess im retarded cuz I still dont get it. The money that he is making above the own rake he is generating is coming from stars pocket, not the other players.

Stars isnt suddenly raking more from the other players to cover their losses from chiren.
I see what you mean, I believe you see what I mean too.
If you want an argument, maybe they have to cancel a promo now since they have to cover their losses!
+ he ripps off every player for taking a pro position when a real player could have been there instead
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:43 PM   #154
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I just dont understand how their promo team can be consistantly making mistakes like this over and over.

How ****ing hard is it for a person creating a promo to do this. Can a supernova elite take advantage of this program? If the answer is yes, adjust the promo to make it so the answer is no.

Then you won't have problems like this. I don't like the fact that I see something I would like to take advantage of and then find out that, I cannot. But some pro player can even if just for a few dozen hours.
Maybe they didn't expect one of their own "online pros" to abuse the system.

They probably thought nobody could be this stupid to jeopardize their current status/benefits plus any future earnings........

I guess they were wrong!
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:44 PM   #155
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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Think you're missing the point.

This guy slimes his way into an amazing opportunity someone else is not getting and turns out to be a complete douche whose dream ambition is to abuse the system for a couple of VPP's.

People are saying get this tool the FO of there and put a real player in his place, end of story.
hey i agree he shouldnt be a PS Pro, but I don't think it has anything to do with this thread.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:49 PM   #156
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

I have no feelings either way about Chiren. I do not get all the whining about what he is or now was doing. So what if he is a ps pro, he found a smart option for gaining vpps to free up his time in his trek for sne. congrats to him. As a serious ps grinder I have no issue with it, I think it is smart and not cheating anyone.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:50 PM   #157
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hey i agree he shouldnt be a PS Pro, but I don't think it has anything to do with this thread.
I mean, it's obviously a PR move on their part to get the WOW and MMORPG crowd because they certainly know he can't play to save his life, and I think as such it's a great move.

It benefits serious players because these video game pros come and think playing poker is like farming for gold and end up dropping 320 Bis at NL10, so it adds to the player pool, and not exactly in the shark category.

So yeah, although I always thought this guy was a sketchy douche, I liked the PR move from PS, but now this....it's a little too much.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:50 PM   #158
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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I see what you mean, I believe you see what I mean too.
If you want an argument, maybe they have to cancel a promo now since they have to cover their losses!
+ he ripps off every player for taking a pro position when a real player could have been there instead
meh, they arent going to cancel a promo because someone stole what amounts to pocket change from them. Hell if you wanna twist an argument like that, we could easily say that chiren is giving money to all the players, since stars could confiscate his account and then that money goes back to the community!

Also, he is a real player, hes not imaginary, and if you look at the people they selected to be a team online pro, most of them are FPP grinding losers/BE players like chiren.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:56 PM   #159
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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He has to, he chip dumped over 300 buy ins to the guy, thats over one 3rd of all of his total profit earnings on pokerstars. I doubt he was just donating that kind of money to a random.
wholly ****, how do u even manage to breathe?
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:57 PM   #160
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meh, they arent going to cancel a promo because someone stole what amounts to pocket change from them. Hell if you wanna twist an argument like that, we could easily say that chiren is giving money to all the players, since stars could confiscate his account and then that money goes back to the community!

Also, he is a real player, hes not imaginary, and if you look at the people they selected to be a team online pro, most of them are FPP grinding losers/BE players like chiren.
Agreed.
By a "real player" I mean a grateful player taking responsibility for the opportunity given and at least try not to mock his fellow microstakes grinders.
I believe by doing this he is inverting the purpose PokerStars imagined.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:01 PM   #161
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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How ****ing hard is it for a person creating a promo to do this. Can a supernova elite take advantage of this program? If the answer is yes, adjust the promo to make it so the answer is no.
i think this is +1 here, but dont forget: the people running all the governments in the world subscribe to retard logic too. its sort of a human trait.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:04 PM   #162
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Chiren will no longer be doing what is described in this thread.
But he was just playing against a super aggro player :/
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:08 PM   #163
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stars is really going downhill
They reached the bottom of the hill. All the cheating scandals (DoN, LHE, Stud, Stox/LittleZen), the change of buyins and now this.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:12 PM   #164
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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They reached the bottom of the hill. All the cheating scandals (DoN, LHE, Stud, Stox/LittleZen), the change of buyins and now this.
You forgot the rake increase at the microstakes.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:17 PM   #165
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

I don't think what chiren was doing was all that bad, but the lieing about it and fake explanation while trying to uhh "game" the site he represents is pretty un-pro behaviour. That's life.
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