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Originally Posted by joeri
I've been thinking about these ratholer suggestions a lot and i think it is way to complex. Its hard to explain to people and i see a lot of loopholes. It also imposes a disadvantages for people playing many hands a day. It will be an advantage for pure bumhunters who just play with droolers and hence few hands a day.
Therefore i think the best way to go about this is making 3 table types, 20bb cap, 40bb cap and 75bb-200bb tables and name the last one the "normal" table (for plo just 40bb cap and 75bb-200bb 'normal' ones, no need for 20bb plo raketrap). This solves the ratholing problem in a way easier way. Offcourse it has nagatives too, but i feel like its better then the complicated system.
I was about to post something about like this as well.
After thinking about it more, the Ratholing proposal post by Steve is illogical. If his proposal were to be implemented, we would have the following conditions:
1. There is a 20bb game offered with the equivalent of unlimited ratholing.
2. There is a 100bb game offered where you can rathole to 100bb an unlimited amount of times.
3. There is nothing in between. You are allowed to rathole to 40bb, but only if you don't do it a lot.
So you have a 20bb and a 100bb game that you can play professionally, but nothing in the 40-60bb range. This doesn't make sense.
Stars said that they are not willing to raise the buy-in at the 40-100bb tables because of the demand to buy in for 40bb. Yet if this proposal goes through, you *can* play a 40bb game, but only if you are a recreational player.
So if you don't want ratholing shortstackers, just raise the minimum BI to 80 or 100bb. And like joeri said, make another game that is 40bb cap (I think 50bb is better, but that is a moot point). The only reason there is going to be uproar in this thread with regards to this suggestion is because people who play 100bb's assume that most of the recreational players will now go to the 40bb cap tables. But if there is that much demand for them, then that is what Stars should offer.
Lastly, this system proposed by Steve rewards lower volume players by giving them more ratholing "privileges". It's pretty backwards to take away a player's privileges because they play a lot. And as I said before, it just encourages multiaccounting which will 100% be an issue.