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04-06-2016 , 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjinnj
2.) Sunday Special $50,000 Guaranteed - This tournament is ending just shy of 2 AM. Instead of starting the tournament at 6 PM, can you instead have it start at 4 or 4:30 PM to ensure it does not end too late for us working stiffs? Most NJ-ers have to get up before 7 or 8 AM on Mondays. It badly discourages non-pros players from joining in when you structure the tournament so it ends at an unacceptable hour. This tournament should not end more than a few minutes after midnight at the latest.

3.) Clock - Running out of time in tournaments. Can you include in the structure the add-ons of time at higher structure levels for the smaller and turbo tournaments? I only see this in the bigger tournaments. Especially with the f'd up sound problem, this is so onerous.

4.) Knockout tournaments - when half the money is going to pay for knockouts, it's a black and white non-entry for me. I feel that it would be so much better, if you allocate at least 75 to 80% of the prize toward where you place in the tournament.
Point 2: I completely disagree, with most of the other tournaments starting around 7:00 it's a huge pain to have the majors start at 4:00. I've skipped the WSOP $200 $30K before just because it starts at 4, and I do this for a living. If you make the final table and you work a regular job then take the $2000+ you make and suck up losing some sleep for the next day (or just call out of work).

Point 3: I agree with this one. A couple weeks ago I played the $50 turbo at 10PM and came back a minute late from break. My time bank was now at 0 seconds and no time was ever added back so I had about 10 seconds on every decision while multi tabling, which forced me to pay a ton of attention to the turbo. I was lucky enough to go deep but that also had me notice that you never get more time added to time bank in that turbo. I like that your time bank starts gets started up more quickly in a turbo but gotta put some time bank on that clock as the tourney goes on.

Point 4: Putting 20% of the buy in towards a knockout is really pointless and I've never liked this format. In fact I really am not a fan of KO tourneys unless they're progressive KOs; winning half a buy in or 20% of a buy in late in a tournament when it's completely irrelevant compared to the payouts has always seemed ridiculous to me. Just take all that money and put it in the prize pool. The progressives were such a great invention because late in the tournament the KOs are still relevant compared to what you're playing for and should slightly affect your decisions. Yesterday with 3 left in the $250 progressive I called off a shove in a spot where I was looking at a $500 pay jump and a $760 bounty if I were to win the pot. If it was a standard KO it'd be a $50 or $116 bounty and all I'd be able to think about is how I was playing for less money than I would have had all the money been put into the prize pool.
04-06-2016 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Redsoxnets5
Point 2: I completely disagree, with most of the other tournaments starting around 7:00 it's a huge pain to have the majors start at 4:00. I've skipped the WSOP $200 $30K before just because it starts at 4, and I do this for a living. If you make the final table and you work a regular job then take the $2000+ you make and suck up losing some sleep for the next day (or just call out of work).
The final table isn't until after midnight, some people don't have the luxury of calling out sick or "sucking it up" on little sleep the night before. Ninth place is in the 1k range.
04-06-2016 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Stu
Maybe throw out a .01-.02 table to suck them in?
Still frustrated with no action on 5-card draw. Doesn't anybody else watch old westerns and get the itch to play?
04-06-2016 , 12:48 PM
Thanks for the info and links everyone. I feel like I am getting up to speed on how online poker is coming together after being away since Black Friday. I appreciate everyone's willingness to share their opinions and knowledge here and on other threads.
04-06-2016 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Stu
Still frustrated with no action on 5-card draw. Doesn't anybody else watch old westerns and get the itch to play?
They add 5 card draw that no one plays but still no heads up nl holdem cash. SMH

Toro
04-06-2016 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by torodwan
They add 5 card draw that no one plays but still no heads up nl holdem cash. SMH

Toro
Well, to be fair, they didn't "add" 5-card draw. It was there from the launch.
04-06-2016 , 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by torodwan
They add 5 card draw that no one plays but still no heads up nl holdem cash. SMH

Toro
Well you can play NL 2-7 SD, and that is the purest form of poker....
04-06-2016 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Dylan
Correct, not all game-types are offered on Mobile.

Regards,
Dylan
Which are/which aren't?
04-06-2016 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SGspecial
Which are/which aren't?
Looks like any draw games or mixes that have them

You can play Razz
04-06-2016 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rjinnj
I have feedback. I'm not sure if it has already been addressed in this thread or elsewhere. With that caveat, here is my list:

1.) Rebuys - Stinginess with FPP's --> If you are going to charge a fee every time there is a rebuy, then grant the corresponding FPP's associated with each rebuy. That's not happening, but it deserves to.

2.) Sunday Special $50,000 Guaranteed - This tournament is ending just shy of 2 AM. Instead of starting the tournament at 6 PM, can you instead have it start at 4 or 4:30 PM to ensure it does not end too late for us working stiffs? Most NJ-ers have to get up before 7 or 8 AM on Mondays. It badly discourages non-pros players from joining in when you structure the tournament so it ends at an unacceptable hour. This tournament should not end more than a few minutes after midnight at the latest.

3.) Clock - Running out of time in tournaments. Can you include in the structure the add-ons of time at higher structure levels for the smaller and turbo tournaments? I only see this in the bigger tournaments. Especially with the f'd up sound problem, this is so onerous.

4.) Knockout tournaments - when half the money is going to pay for knockouts, it's a black and white non-entry for me. I feel that it would be so much better, if you allocate at least 75 to 80% of the prize toward where you place in the tournament.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Dylan
1) You do earn VPPs and progress on your VIP Steps for your rebuys and add-ons. You may not have been noticing since VPPs are credited all at once when you are eliminated from a tournament and not at the moment you rebuy/add-on.

Thanks for the rest of the feedback.

Regards,
Dylan
Okay, I took a look at the rebuy/re-entry issue as you instructed. It looks like you're right, I'll check it in live time as I play to be certain.

I have more feedback:

1. On #2 of my original e-mail, this tournaments-ending-too-late issue also appears to be a problem for the "Nightly 100". On 4/5/2016, the 7 PM tourney ended at 1:43 in the morning. That's way too late for the working stiffs of the world. Perhaps you can start it an hour earlier, allow for 2.5 vs 2 hours for late registration and speed up the structure a little bit. That tournament shouldn't be ending so freaking late. Aim for not much later than a midnight ending time frame and you'll make the world a better place.

For the Sunday Big Game, start it at around 4:30 and allow for slightly longer registration times and a tiny speed up in the structure. For the Sunday High Roller, start this one at 6 PM (1 hour earlier). It seems to be ending quite early; hence you can make the structure a little bit slower for this one.

2. Main lobby involuntary minimization - It makes me crazy and inefficient when the this happens. Every time I open up a tournament lobby, the main lobby undesirably minimizes. I'm sure my complaint is probably old news by now. Regardless, it deserves to get fixed in the very short run. Agreed?
04-06-2016 , 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjinnj
I have feedback. I'm not sure if it has already been addressed in this thread or elsewhere. With that caveat, here is my list:

1.) Rebuys - Stinginess with FPP's --> If you are going to charge a fee every time there is a rebuy, then grant the corresponding FPP's associated with each rebuy. That's not happening, but it deserves to.

2.) Sunday Special $50,000 Guaranteed - This tournament is ending just shy of 2 AM. Instead of starting the tournament at 6 PM, can you instead have it start at 4 or 4:30 PM to ensure it does not end too late for us working stiffs? Most NJ-ers have to get up before 7 or 8 AM on Mondays. It badly discourages non-pros players from joining in when you structure the tournament so it ends at an unacceptable hour. This tournament should not end more than a few minutes after midnight at the latest.

3.) Clock - Running out of time in tournaments. Can you include in the structure the add-ons of time at higher structure levels for the smaller and turbo tournaments? I only see this in the bigger tournaments. Especially with the f'd up sound problem, this is so onerous.

4.) Knockout tournaments - when half the money is going to pay for knockouts, it's a black and white non-entry for me. I feel that it would be so much better, if you allocate at least 75 to 80% of the prize toward where you place in the tournament.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Dylan
1) You do earn VPPs and progress on your VIP Steps for your rebuys and add-ons. You may not have been noticing since VPPs are credited all at once when you are eliminated from a tournament and not at the moment you rebuy/add-on.

Thanks for the rest of the feedback.

Regards,
Dylan
Okay, I took a look at the rebuy/add-on (& re-entry) issue as you instructed. It looks like you're right, I'll check it in live time as I play to be certain.

I have more feedback:

1. On #2 of my original post up above, this tournaments-ending-too-late issue also appears to be a problem for the "Nightly 100". On 4/5/2016, the 7 PM tourney ended at 1:43 in the morning. That's way too late for the working stiffs of the world. Perhaps you can start it an hour earlier, allow for 2.5 vs 2 hours for late registration and speed up the structure a little bit. That tournament shouldn't be ending so freaking late. Aim for not much later than a midnight ending time frame and you'll make the world a better place.

For the Sunday Big Game, start it at around 4:30 and allow for slightly longer registration times and a tiny speed up in the structure. For the Sunday High Roller, start this one at 6 PM (1 hour earlier). It seems to be ending quite early; hence you can make the structure a little bit slower for this one.

2. Main lobby involuntary minimization - It makes me crazy and inefficient when the this happens. Every time I open up a tournament lobby, the main lobby undesirably minimizes. I'm sure my complaint is probably old news by now. Regardless, it deserves to get fixed in the very short run. Agreed?
04-06-2016 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
You can play Razz
I will

If the games actually run
04-06-2016 , 07:30 PM
I had 5 Omaha hi/lo sit n gos opened at the same time, last night on 888NJ. If you don't believe me Dylan, I'll do it again and provide screen shots. I didn't really understand your answer yesterday, you said the person in charge of the sit n gos said "no go on Omaha hi/lo because the Omaha sit n gos don't get much action." This is confusing to me considering I only see Omaha HEADS-UP sit n gos in the lobby. I never asked for Omaha hi/lo heads up sit n gos, I asked for Omaha hi lo 6 man or 9 man tables. I see you guys added a $100 Omaha hi/lo tourney for Sundays. The $500 GTD Omaha hi/lo tourney seems to do well. Like I said before, 888 o8 sit n gos run regularly. You guys are supposed to be the best in town, but you got somebody who seems incompetent at his job running the sit n go schedule. Is there a email you can provide so I can put in a complaint? I mean, how the heck does the clown running the sng schedule not even know Omaha hi lo sit n gos are much more popular than Omaha sit n gos? Seems like the complaints about the new Pokerstars I see made by the ROW players seem pretty legit. You clowns don't have a god damn clue what you're doing. How the heck does somebody screw up the time zone? How didn't you guys catch onto the sound issues before you rolled out the software? One word; frauds. Now give me an email address so I can put in a complaint.
04-06-2016 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
The final table isn't until after midnight, some people don't have the luxury of calling out sick or "sucking it up" on little sleep the night before. Ninth place is in the 1k range.
You always have the option of "sucking it up" imo. Later start works better for me, I'm sure we would have a mix of answers
04-06-2016 , 08:53 PM
id sit omaha hi/lo anytime before regular omaha but honestly my vote shouldnt matter much because i cant afford to throw around a lot of money on poker (unless im running good)
04-06-2016 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by poorme
id sit omaha hi/lo anytime before regular omaha but honestly my vote shouldnt matter much because i cant afford to throw around a lot of money on poker (unless im running good)
Your opinion matters and thanks for voicing it! This has nothing to do with how much money you have, if they add omaha hi/lo sit n gos, I am sure they would include $1 and up for everybody to play. Actually I'm not sure about much anymore, but don't ever think your opinion doesn't matter because of how deep your pockets are or are not.
04-06-2016 , 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raradevils
The final table isn't until after midnight, some people don't have the luxury of calling out sick or "sucking it up" on little sleep the night before. Ninth place is in the 1k range.
Then don't play the tournament. It is absurd how many times starting times for tournaments has been discussed for the other sites. If you haven't seen the discussion on pocketfives then I can't blame you for bringing this up again but some people want everything started at 4, some people want everything started at 10, some people want everything started at 7, some people don't care. Party has moved the 10K from 7 to 6 to 7 to 6 to 7 and finally I think they realized they can't please everyone and it doesn't seem to matter much either way. At the end of the day, it comes down to your preference, so it's ridiculous to discuss. If you want to argue that more people would play at one time than another then that is a reasonable argument, but you'd need data that I don't think anyone but the sites have (and they might not even have it). But if it comes down to personal preference then "I won't get to bed when I want to" isn't a good argument.
04-06-2016 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by murdahc
I had 5 Omaha hi/lo sit n gos opened at the same time, last night on 888NJ. If you don't believe me Dylan, I'll do it again and provide screen shots. I didn't really understand your answer yesterday, you said the person in charge of the sit n gos said "no go on Omaha hi/lo because the Omaha sit n gos don't get much action." This is confusing to me considering I only see Omaha HEADS-UP sit n gos in the lobby. I never asked for Omaha hi/lo heads up sit n gos, I asked for Omaha hi lo 6 man or 9 man tables. I see you guys added a $100 Omaha hi/lo tourney for Sundays. The $500 GTD Omaha hi/lo tourney seems to do well. Like I said before, 888 o8 sit n gos run regularly. You guys are supposed to be the best in town, but you got somebody who seems incompetent at his job running the sit n go schedule. Is there a email you can provide so I can put in a complaint? I mean, how the heck does the clown running the sng schedule not even know Omaha hi lo sit n gos are much more popular than Omaha sit n gos? Seems like the complaints about the new Pokerstars I see made by the ROW players seem pretty legit. You clowns don't have a god damn clue what you're doing. How the heck does somebody screw up the time zone? How didn't you guys catch onto the sound issues before you rolled out the software? One word; frauds. Now give me an email address so I can put in a complaint.
support@pokerstarsnj.com

maybe try being a little nicer? I mean if I read that post i would not add o8 sngs out of spite.

u say 888 has them. why not play there? play o8 cash on stars in meantime.
04-06-2016 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LETIGRA
support@pokerstarsnj.com

maybe try being a little nicer? I mean if I read that post i would not add o8 sngs out of spite.

u say 888 has them. why not play there? play o8 cash on stars in meantime.
Then you probably wouldn't be in charge of the sit-n-go division on the greatest poker site of all-time.

My post may have been out of line, but the answers and excuses I am getting from PartyPokerDylan are absolutely crazy ridiculous.
04-06-2016 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by murdahc
Then you probably wouldn't be in charge of the sit-n-go division on the greatest poker site of all-time.

My post may have been out of line, but the answers and excuses I am getting from PartyPokerDylan are absolutely crazy ridiculous.
Yup. I'm not in charge. Neither is Dylan. You are definitely not in charge.

They probably will add them eventually, this is only week 3. It's not the same on stars though as they do not want any traffic to spins eaten up by sngs. Spins are their biggest marketed game and most profitable for them.

Despite stars being the best, you might actually be the exception player who finds much better action on the other nj sites.
04-06-2016 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LETIGRA
Yup. I'm definitely not in charge. Neither is Dylan. You are not in charge.

They probably will add them eventually, this is only week 3. It's not the same on stars though as they do not want any traffic to spins eaten up by sngs. Spins are their biggest marketed game and most profitable for them.

Despite stars being the best, you might actually be the exception player who finds much better action on the other nj sites.
PokerstarDylan, can you confirm this?
04-07-2016 , 12:15 AM
Just food for thought...

Not trying to upset you, but whether he can confirm or not, let's look at pokerstars 3 biggest promotions since the launch in order of importance:

1/ 10 dollar spin and go to win 100k

2/ deposit more than 20 bucks, get 20 bucks released in 3 days and 20 more in a week. Plus one free 10 dollar spin. Plus 1million play chips. I would never play for play money but the majority of new jersey's 9 m pop prefers it. PLus with the software package you can literally play a ton of different games from iphone. This encourages more eventual deposits. plus the 10 dollar spin

3/ 600 match
04-07-2016 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
Yeah it's good for you guys that Stars are there, no doubt. However, you shouldn't be under the impression that a Stars monopoly in NJ would be good for the players.

They're using you guys just now to beta test the site and build a player base which is why they're communicating freely and pretending to be the "old Pokerstars" you guys miss.

Amaya-owned Pokerstars are hostile to winning players and barely communicate on 2+2 any more. They're probably still the best option, just know what you're getting in to.
Was hoping this guy was wrong.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Jones
Yes, the .COM client has 9-max tables. I'm not sure why we only have 6-max tables on PSNJ, but I've asked the appropriate experts and will let you know.

Regards,
Lee Jones
What's the word, Mr. Jones? Or did you forget about us already? I hope you don't consider PokerStarDylan's colleague, who is in control of NJ Sit & Gos, an expert.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Dylan
I had already passed on your feedback to my colleague responsible for NJ Sit & Gos and he is monitoring demand. My impression from our conversation is that 'normal' PLO Sit & Gos haven't been popular enough at this stage to consider adding different forms of Omaha.

Regards,
Dylan
Comical response. Only Omaha Heads-up are listed in the sit n go lobby. How the heck didn't you press your colleague for a better response? Or maybe you've never even opened up the PokerStarsNJ lobby ever in your life and The Imp called this bull crap from the start.
04-07-2016 , 01:31 AM
The amount of bitching that goes on in this thread makes my head hurt.

Feel bad for Dylan that he has to sift through this crap.

We get it, two guys in NJ like Omaha H/L SNGs....
04-07-2016 , 01:34 AM
murdahc, why are you acting like this? It's getting ridiculous. Dylan works for the company and he is an intermediary between you and the company. He doesn't have control over every decision and he doesn't own pokerstars. Voicing your desire for O8 sitngos respectfully is fine and is part of the point of this thread, but you are being a giant tool to people who don't deserve it. Stop harassing and name calling people because you aren't getting your way. If they decide to not add O8 sitngos that is their choice, it still doesn't make it okay for you to act like this. Act like an adult.

      
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