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09-05-2016 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bizzerk
you're a despicable bumhunting trashbag save it

This 'TwoShae' here is very, very heavily invested in the NVG thread about Ben86 (Ben Tollerene) having/using some PLO Dream software. There has been implications that 'Ben Tollerene (Ben86)' is ghost posting via this Two Shae account. And given the rant above, and him begging for high stakes HU PLo cash game tables I think their is some merit to looking into this.

is 'Two Shae'/Ben Tollerene the high Stakes PLO heads up cash game super software using guy using TwoShae to ghost the NJ sites for High Stakes HU PLO action. Honestly I think you all should look into this 'Two Shae' account on PokerstarsNJ and look for a connection that its actually an account being GHOSTED/PLAYED by High Stakes ROW site Regs NOT located in New Jersey.

Mainly Ben Tollerene AKA Ben86

Judging by the demands being made here, incessantly asking for HU PLO cash tables (lol gtfo) I think Ben Tollerene (Ben86) is using the 'TwoShae' account to play the NJ sites, and thats why they are clamoring and begging for all this special HU cash game tables.

Pokerstars dont be stupid in NJ, if these guys are circumventing the State law their is serious repercussions. TwoShae is real close with Ben86 the dream machine haver and youre all clearly being asked by this 'TwoShae' account here to create some high stakes HU PLO tables on PokerstarsNJ..


checking for illegal software and scripts, if nothing more should be standard in this case!
lol two shae is 100% not being ghosted by ben86 this is a ridiculous thing to say with no proof or evidence.....just because he is bitter about not being able to play HU isnt proof of anything
09-05-2016 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AnimaLettire
lol two shae is 100% not being ghosted by ben86 this is a ridiculous thing to say with no proof or evidence.....just because he is bitter about not being able to play HU isnt proof of anything
Thanks

Those accusations are obviously baseless and not true. The only thing I've done is stick up for Ben in a thread where I perceive him to be getting unfairly gangbanged. The NVG streets are tough these days.
09-05-2016 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JVB
will there be satellites into any other NJ festival events other than the $1,100 event? It would be nice if there was a chance for us smaller players to have a chance to win a seat into the 230 and 340 events.
+1
09-05-2016 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Two SHAE
I have reported Gio's racist chat numerous times and he hasn't so much as been chat banned. The thing is I can just mute his chat, and I have done that, but I've witnessed him call a very big losing rec player a "kyke" at least a handful of times, and also telling another rec player to "drop dead".
I just want to clarify that I'm lumping together the K word and "jew" (when used in a derogatory manner) here. He claims he has only used the K word once. It was important to him that I clarify this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe in doing so he will act more reasonably in the future.

Sorry for cluttering thread, hopefully the discussion will lead to a more welcoming and friendly environment for regs and recs alike.
09-06-2016 , 01:14 PM
Glad the changes to the Super Tuesday/Thursday Thrill have helped, kudos to you guys for the feedback.

Regarding Two SHAE's case, abusive chat isn't tolerated, and we often rely on players reporting the chat in order to take action. It sounds like Two SHAE did the right thing and has already reported it. It sometimes take us a few days to review the case from when it's reported, although I won't be privy to discuss the details of this (or any) particular case in a public forum.

Regards,
Dylan
09-06-2016 , 04:05 PM
This isn't necessarily a complaint to Dylan, I'm more interested in finding out if the majority of players agree with me or not first.

I'm currently fairly deep in the 1pm $15 buy in, $1k guarantee.

There are 87 entries for a prizepool of $1174.50

18 people get paid.

13th - 18th get $15.26 I just don't get it. I know a $0.26 profit is better than losing, but I'd rather see a couple less spots get paid and the min cash be at least $20-$25. Of course as I type this I'm in 16th of 21 so karma and this post pretty much guarantees me 17th or 18th place, but I am wondering what others think.
09-06-2016 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
This isn't necessarily a complaint to Dylan, I'm more interested in finding out if the majority of players agree with me or not first.

I'm currently fairly deep in the 1pm $15 buy in, $1k guarantee.

There are 87 entries for a prizepool of $1174.50

18 people get paid.

13th - 18th get $15.26 I just don't get it. I know a $0.26 profit is better than losing, but I'd rather see a couple less spots get paid and the min cash be at least $20-$25. Of course as I type this I'm in 16th of 21 so karma and this post pretty much guarantees me 17th or 18th place, but I am wondering what others think.
for your example i think for the masses and the recs (who dont consistently final table) it would be better to eliminate a few spots. cut it down to 15pay spots and make it so like 12-15 turns a few dollar profit at least and the higher spots get slightly more too. a min cash should still feel like a small win and be worth it to the recs and such. that few measly dollars can be parlayed and flipped stimulating more action. there r many who min cash more consistently than others but for some of them they r happy with it and it causes them to play more hoping for better finishes.

getting your buy in back is always a good thing but in your example getting a quarter profit is pouring salt on the wound of a min cash. its like tipping a waiter or bartender a quarter or 50 cents. most of them would rather you leave no tip at all than get that 50 cents because its adding insult to injury (despite them being upset either way)
09-07-2016 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
This isn't necessarily a complaint to Dylan, I'm more interested in finding out if the majority of players agree with me or not first.

I'm currently fairly deep in the 1pm $15 buy in, $1k guarantee.

There are 87 entries for a prizepool of $1174.50

18 people get paid.

13th - 18th get $15.26 I just don't get it. I know a $0.26 profit is better than losing, but I'd rather see a couple less spots get paid and the min cash be at least $20-$25. Of course as I type this I'm in 16th of 21 so karma and this post pretty much guarantees me 17th or 18th place, but I am wondering what others think.
I can easily support 15% max places for cashing.
09-07-2016 , 11:25 PM
Min cashing and making 16 cents is like tipping your waiter $3 on a $97 bill. I'd rather just you leave nothin as a diner.

Min cash needs to be 1.5x BI

Just an opinion tho
09-08-2016 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl_LaFong
I can easily support 15% max places for cashing.
+1

I don't get the 20% payout.

I just open PS ROW to rail a friend whos deep in a wcoop and checked their payout, and it's about 12%. That would be fine with me.

It's like they dumbed it down for us. I don't think we asked for them to.
09-08-2016 , 07:33 PM
Looking for technical help here. Poker stars would open, but not connect on my PC out of Cherry Hill NJ on a Comcast IP address. I tried from my iPad as well, would not connect. Ruled out that it was my pc being funny.

I get to work and try to connect from my work internet(also a Comcast ip out of cherry hill NJ) and it also would not connect on my iPad. At that point, my coworker tried on his iPad and it would connect either. This leads me to believe it is a Comcast issue, however all other poker sites and applications are connecting to the Internet fine.

When I open my network status from poker stars, all connections say very good, 100%, except for Manx telecom, Isle of Man, says bad, 0%.

I have reset both my home and work routers and poker stars will still not connect on my iPad, pc, or my coworkers iPad. Where are wizards that can help?
09-08-2016 , 07:39 PM
Fwiw, I play almost every night with no issues. Took about three days off and it looks like cherry hill no longer exists to pokerstars
09-08-2016 , 08:30 PM
More info. Coworker went home, he lives about 10 minutes outside of cherry hill, still uses comcast. Pokerstars fired right up for him when he got home, but it would not connect for him at our office.
09-09-2016 , 02:32 AM
Is there a way to download the ROW client from NJ?
09-09-2016 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Money4Bacon
Looking for technical help here. Poker stars would open, but not connect on my PC out of Cherry Hill NJ on a Comcast IP address. I tried from my iPad as well, would not connect. Ruled out that it was my pc being funny.

I get to work and try to connect from my work internet(also a Comcast ip out of cherry hill NJ) and it also would not connect on my iPad. At that point, my coworker tried on his iPad and it would connect either. This leads me to believe it is a Comcast issue, however all other poker sites and applications are connecting to the Internet fine.

When I open my network status from poker stars, all connections say very good, 100%, except for Manx telecom, Isle of Man, says bad, 0%.

I have reset both my home and work routers and poker stars will still not connect on my iPad, pc, or my coworkers iPad. Where are wizards that can help?
Best bet is to contact support with as many details as possible and they will pass it on to our technical team. I haven't heard of this specific issue myself recently.

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Originally Posted by cicakman
Is there a way to download the ROW client from NJ?
If you're unable to access it from the .COM website due to redirects, I believe Support should be able to provide you a direct download link if you contact them.

Just a note that I'm on vacation for the next two weeks so will only be intermittently responding to PMs or posting.

Regards,
Dylan
09-09-2016 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Dylan

Just a note that I'm on vacation for the next two weeks so will only be intermittently responding to PMs or posting.

Regards,
Dylan
sheesh another vacation?!!?? already!! sounds like stars is giving you a good life. enjoy
09-09-2016 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SlotJockey
chat abuse is one thing but it happens all over the nj sites. i dont expect the sites to ban people for saying obnoxious offensive things. nj is full of douchebags. . MUTE THEM- problem solved i laugh at the tens of thousands these sites waste censoring the chat boxes.

the complaint about not honoring a hu request is pointless here. thats basically unwritten code amongst regs from what i gather and im a rec/fish who doesnt play anywhere near what i used to online anymore. sounds like ric flair doesnt like you "two shae" and vice versa. get over it.

the ghosting. i stopped playing on stars nj for the most part.because of suspicions of many doing such things from outta of nj. for the levels and stakes i play on the other sites. starsnj seems too much like a completely different player base. i get it stars added some new players who werent playing in nj before but not that many. certainly not enough to suddenly have a flood of new people with very different playing styles flood the lower stakes suddenly who were clearly different than the usual low stakes players you find on 888/party/borg.

plus the fact that when starsnj launched you suddenly had all these people pop up playing like they were "rockstars on stars". i get it many people played on stars row and continued to do so for a long while once it was supposedly closed to US players but you cant tell me all the clueless rec/fish i play with on the other skins (low stakes) suddenly know how to play better on stars or changed their playing style for the stars skin only.

something is definately fishy as i dont think up to a hundred + people suddenly travelled from outside of nj to nj on "vacation" to play penny/nickel/dime poker cash and few $ mtt on stars thats an absurd thing to think. its not the new yorkers either.

sorry my RANT IS OVER
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Originally Posted by FreeDomRule
Not a rant and I agree with your post.

Its to a point now that the New Jersey DGE (Division of Gaming Enforcement) needs to be alerted.

Its clear as day that some bad things are happening, and likely by a very small subset of advantage players/software users who come form the ROW site. Also likely the very ones, being overly outspoken in this thread. Id bet you wouldn't have to look too far beyond the ones posting int his very thread to gain a very good starting point. This is why we in NJ have LEGAL online gambling, because their is recourse now.

Pokerstars you better not be turning a blind eye to bad things happening here thats why the NJ DGE exists.
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Originally Posted by Gags30
Would love to hear some sns that you suspect are "people from not in nj". Can def investigate, as I know who nearly all of the regs are at 200nl and higher

Oh and would wager a large amount of money that you are incorrect

Also can we take this discussion and the twoshae one to another thread? Twoshae made his point to stars very clear, if people want to discuss further or debate we should go somewhere else.

Let's get this thread back on topic

I'll start:

Dylan, nice job lowering Super Tuesday and thrill guarantees. I still suggest a higher guarantee, as that will generate much more buzz, and help more players to reg it from the start. Even making them 10k will make a difference

I have not actually actively looked at it (so it is just an impression I've had simply from playing), but at 200NL+ it has seemed that at Stars there are a number of guys with stats running around 32ish/24ish and seemingly playing pretty well whereas I've noticed barely any guys with such stats on the other sites.
09-09-2016 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Money4Bacon
Looking for technical help here. Poker stars would open, but not connect on my PC out of Cherry Hill NJ on a Comcast IP address. I tried from my iPad as well, would not connect. Ruled out that it was my pc being funny.

I get to work and try to connect from my work internet(also a Comcast ip out of cherry hill NJ) and it also would not connect on my iPad. At that point, my coworker tried on his iPad and it would connect either. This leads me to believe it is a Comcast issue, however all other poker sites and applications are connecting to the Internet fine.

When I open my network status from poker stars, all connections say very good, 100%, except for Manx telecom, Isle of Man, says bad, 0%.

I have reset both my home and work routers and poker stars will still not connect on my iPad, pc, or my coworkers iPad. Where are wizards that can help?
The one server will be 0% always. The server problems ARE known problems and have been for a long time ( more than a year). There is even dedicated threads to them. I've had multiple servers at 0% for months consistently, and off and on for much longer.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index330.html

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...awful-1524525/
09-09-2016 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hornykiss
The one server will be 0% always. The server problems ARE known problems and have been for a long time ( more than a year). There is even dedicated threads to them. I've had multiple servers at 0% for months consistently, and off and on for much longer.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index330.html

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...awful-1524525/
That's nothing to do with "server problems", it's been explained numerous times (even in one of the threads you linked to!).
09-09-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I have not actually actively looked at it (so it is just an impression I've had simply from playing), but at 200NL+ it has seemed that at Stars there are a number of guys with stats running around 32ish/24ish and seemingly playing pretty well whereas I've noticed barely any guys with such stats on the other sites.
this exactly. im nowhere near the 200nl+ level but its the same at the micros/low levels - mtts and cash. (less than 10$ mtts. cash 0.10 and under) stars came and there were people suddenly that werent the same as guys on the other sites that popped up. i dont have the stats to look at but i do know the players at party very well who play those levels very often. and 888 to a lesser degree.

basically from my perspective starsnj has more of a player base than i see daily on party/888 but this new boost to the njplayer pool that stars has doesnt seem to have created new accounts on 888/party. their new depositer freerolls that they ran when they opened i think at one point i saw one with over 1500 players and that was only one of them. each account could only play in one. so what easily over 2k accounts. ive only ever seen maybe 1100ish max on party. so you got an influx briefly of out of staters and people MAing for the freerolls. but stars daily seems to me to have slightly more than the other sites logged in (few hundred) but many of those arent the same people as the other sites. they seem to be exclusive to stars y didnt the new people join and play on party/888? ive spoken to many people that im familiar with at the other sites 888/party that dont like stars and dont like the games there. maybe they changed their mind but it seems there at the levels im used to stars has actually only brought and kept a smaller number of players from the other nj sites than it appears/ or they realize.

people are playing nj stars from out of state out of country somehow
plain and simple. its not just tourists on vacation or people who moved to nj to play micro/low limit buy ins cash/mtt especially to do so only on starsnj and not the other sites.

sorry for the derail (slight derail) but its an issue for stars if they dont clean it up somewhat. i like having them around. people always gonna try it i get it but if stars isnt careful it could cost them. rant over
09-09-2016 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SlotJockey
this exactly. im nowhere near the 200nl+ level but its the same at the micros/low levels - mtts and cash. (less than 10$ mtts. cash 0.10 and under) stars came and there were people suddenly that werent the same as guys on the other sites that popped up. i dont have the stats to look at but i do know the players at party very well who play those levels very often. and 888 to a lesser degree.

basically from my perspective starsnj has more of a player base than i see daily on party/888 but this new boost to the njplayer pool that stars has doesnt seem to have created new accounts on 888/party. their new depositer freerolls that they ran when they opened i think at one point i saw one with over 1500 players and that was only one of them. each account could only play in one. so what easily over 2k accounts. ive only ever seen maybe 1100ish max on party. so you got an influx briefly of out of staters and people MAing for the freerolls. but stars daily seems to me to have slightly more than the other sites logged in (few hundred) but many of those arent the same people as the other sites. they seem to be exclusive to stars y didnt the new people join and play on party/888? ive spoken to many people that im familiar with at the other sites 888/party that dont like stars and dont like the games there. maybe they changed their mind but it seems there at the levels im used to stars has actually only brought and kept a smaller number of players from the other nj sites than it appears/ or they realize.

people are playing nj stars from out of state out of country somehow
plain and simple. its not just tourists on vacation or people who moved to nj to play micro/low limit buy ins cash/mtt especially to do so only on starsnj and not the other sites.

sorry for the derail (slight derail) but its an issue for stars if they dont clean it up somewhat. i like having them around. people always gonna try it i get it but if stars isnt careful it could cost them. rant over
+1
09-09-2016 , 02:04 PM
I am having the same problem with the server connection issues. Stars launches, but it will never connect to the server so I can't play in Cherry Hill. Please let us know if you get this issue resolved.
09-09-2016 , 02:43 PM
Dylan are there any details you can give us about next years changes?
09-09-2016 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SlotJockey
this exactly. im nowhere near the 200nl+ level but its the same at the micros/low levels - mtts and cash. (less than 10$ mtts. cash 0.10 and under) stars came and there were people suddenly that werent the same as guys on the other sites that popped up. i dont have the stats to look at but i do know the players at party very well who play those levels very often. and 888 to a lesser degree.

basically from my perspective starsnj has more of a player base than i see daily on party/888 but this new boost to the njplayer pool that stars has doesnt seem to have created new accounts on 888/party. their new depositer freerolls that they ran when they opened i think at one point i saw one with over 1500 players and that was only one of them. each account could only play in one. so what easily over 2k accounts. ive only ever seen maybe 1100ish max on party. so you got an influx briefly of out of staters and people MAing for the freerolls. but stars daily seems to me to have slightly more than the other sites logged in (few hundred) but many of those arent the same people as the other sites. they seem to be exclusive to stars y didnt the new people join and play on party/888? ive spoken to many people that im familiar with at the other sites 888/party that dont like stars and dont like the games there. maybe they changed their mind but it seems there at the levels im used to stars has actually only brought and kept a smaller number of players from the other nj sites than it appears/ or they realize.

people are playing nj stars from out of state out of country somehow
plain and simple. its not just tourists on vacation or people who moved to nj to play micro/low limit buy ins cash/mtt especially to do so only on starsnj and not the other sites.

sorry for the derail (slight derail) but its an issue for stars if they dont clean it up somewhat. i like having them around. people always gonna try it i get it but if stars isnt careful it could cost them. rant over
This is a pretty silly and unfounded thing to say. Im one of those regs at 200+nl who only plays on Stars. Mostly because the I can't stand the software of any other site and the rake back on stars is a lot better. Its pretty ridiculous to make posts like this as if it were a rampant problem without any actual evidence other than "they don't play on other sites so they must be from out of state/country" Heres another fun fact, some regs who are on other sites chose not to use the same name on Stars. I know.....crazy
09-09-2016 , 04:27 PM
I have been playing the 500NL/PLO+ games on all the NJ sites for as long as they have been offered and I am positive there is not and has never been a noticeable ring of foreign/ out-of-state players at any point. I either know or know someone who knows pretty much every reg in these games. Also nearly all the regs on Stars.NJ play or previously played on other NJ sites and it's known who they are/were on the other sites.

Is it possible that 1 or 2 players have slipped through the cracks and found their way into these games at some point while being out of state? Sure, but I'm confident that's the worst case scenario and it's pretty rare.

Now I can't speak for games below 500NL/PLO since I don't play them. But I doubt there's this pervasive problem of out-of-state players getting on. Just basing that on the fact that I believe it's not happening at higher stakes where there is a greater financial incentive to do it.

      
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