Cliffs:

If PokerStars want to confiscate his $250k because he played illegal from the U.S., then PokerStars has to deliver evidence that he played illegal from the U.S.. This is basic civil law proceeding.

I'm guessing he played from US and I agree it's BS if they can't prove it, he gets his money. What pisses me off is he could probably easily deposit 200k and they look the other way then when he wants his money back they **** him. Essentially what they did with the 100k score. That is just stealing.

Don't they stamp passports with the date when you leave and enter USA?

This is not a rule wanted by PS, they are forced by the DOJ so their hands are tied, it sucks and it's unfair to not be able to play from USA.

so you are saying you did not violate their TOS? Proove that to us please.

OP,

why did you have so much money there ? Why didn't you immediately cash out everything in excess of bare minimum? I mean I am nowhere so high stakes like you. But I never have on PS more than I am comfortable to loose in two days. I mean they do whatever they like and if there is a problem they try just to ignore it. I totally believe you that PS is b-****ting you. But hten it is a nature of all that things. If you have money on a site, be prepared to never see it again.

I mean now you are in this mess, so I would say try to sue them, or try to go to US gambling authorities, try to get it back. But you have been just to trusting with PS.

this. problem is, they might ask for the document below during the process and then OP will most likely have a problem. I am sure the courts in the IOM will be very PS friendly.

If OP can get the document, the whole thing is a piece of cake.

I somehow don't believe, that even if OP can 100% proof that he has not played from USA, he will see his money back. As a player you are just at mercy of PS.

No, you are not. This is what courts are for, just because the business is gambling doesn't mean it can operate outside the law.

Stars can not confiscate money at their own will and for 250k the stakes are high enough to justify a process.

Funny how you avoided this question from me last night but have posted since. You look like a cheater.

Kinda ****ty and certainly sympathize with your tilt over this considering you were playing on your own name, 100k of it is from a live score and you have tons of friends playing on new names all the time and not getting punished.

Comparing VPN'n from in the USA to murder is pretty ridiculous, although it's certainly wrong and clearly risky

Seems pretty clear Jake was grinding from the states, but there are plenty of valid reasons to play from a remote desktop.
You can have a super powerful computer that you can still access and grind from while traveling. Or pooping

I was trying to point out the fault in the logic by the specific poster, lockhurt. Obviously the severity of the "crime" is many magnitudes different. However, it is funny how he responded to my post over all other much more relevant posts when I wasn't talking about him specifically at all. I guess I tilted him the most lol

What happened to the money ? Did Stars keep it or was it distributed amongst the other winning players ?

One of the reasons that I believe that online poker is beset with so many cheating scandals of one kind or another is the tolerance that too many players have for rule-breakers/cheaters.

The rules of the game are laid out in the TOS and if you knowingly broke them that is decision is on you, regardless of how much was lost. Give yourself a shake and vow to be a better and more honorable person going forward.

Haven't read thru all 66 some posts but has the OP admitted he has played in the US? Maybe even just once?

Why isnt anyone addressing the fact that he's changed screen name for the third time. This is way worse than Hastings.

Nope. But he hasn't said he didn't play while in the US. And it looks like he may well have been multi accounting as well.

wug percentage of stars high stakes player pool that plays from florida?

if your leaving 250k on a site that has regular people using primitive measures after 1 year and over 1 million stolen rather than the security of the site you deserve to lose 250k to them. Yes, what did happen to the money. We will never be told. Pokerstars has now adopted a WHACK A MOLE strategy in dealing with all these issues. Wait for the next promotion to try and whack an answer out of them. Enjoy New Jersey, LOL

Just an absurd amount of money to leave on a poker site. More than half of that should be kept offline for good measure and in a ****ing bank. ****, maybe 200k of that if not more. Doesn't pokerstars offer high rollers like this easy deposit options to get a crap ton of money online? So dumb. Maybe I'm too scared to keep what is a life changing amount of money like that on a site where it could ALL be so easily confiscated if you break a rule.

$250k lesson for being an idiot.

why use a VPN if ur playing from a country that PS is allowed like Cabo etc, theres no need. Esp with a huge balance, and don't gimme that u didn't know ur funds would be consficated if caught. I believe that using VPNs are banned from PS, i don't know if its in black n white in ToS but i know they're not allowed and if u get caught u get banned and funds consficated.

OP thinks I'm billy big balls with $250k in my account they wont ban me, besides i play in countries where PS is allowed (thro VPN), and sometimes where they're not allowed - but ill be able to say look - I have rental car receipts!!

jus unbelievably stupid if its how I've been reading it, what a stupid tool.

looks like OP was playing using VPN from allowed countries and then also from USA aswell, gets caught using VPN, starts the whole BS i was here, i was there, i was everyfrikn where (but not in USA - look i has the RECEIPTS (Joey would be proud))

1-2% max, i don't think there would be that many at all, high steaks players are normally highly intelligent and the state of the games at the minute theyre not missing out on great cash game action with the likes of Guy L dropping $1m's like its hot. With PS getting green light in NJ they be stupid to risk getting into bother now aswell.

although i think there would be a couple prob

I think the only reason he has 250k in his account was from 100k euro score in the EPT. So they could've probably busted him after he hit the EPT score.

+1

guess after a year the lawyers arent doing much for ya. id be pissed about losing 250k even a year later- then again even if i could afford that much of a roll i woudnt keep it all on the site at once

Seems like it has been at least a month since said score. That's on him for not clearing that up faster, and you know playing from within the US instead of following the rules.