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Old 06-21-2012, 08:38 AM   #1
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Poker Stars may lose one of its biggest player bases July 1

Looks like online poker will be illegal July 1 in Germany.

Germany is the biggest country now that the US is offline. And it looks to me they have to go offline once this law is goes into effect for all the sites.

It also does not seem like the schleswigholstein state will ever issues licenses for stars or other poker sites.

http://www.gamblingcompliance.com/re...erstate-treaty

I wonder how many players stars will lose.

What a cluster ****!
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:43 AM   #2
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

http://www.casinoscamreport.com/2012...-cancellation/
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:50 AM   #3
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Question Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

can't read the 1st article, but the last thing i read about this topic is, that schleswigholstein can't afford to cancel the already issued licenses. PLUS the EU Parliament vocalized some warning about the other plan (by the 15 other states), to create an isolated market.

edit: btw, i think the 'Russian' market should be bigger than the german ... but just a guess
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:50 AM   #4
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

So, is there a chance that the accounts will be frozen for german players and should we withdraw before July 01?
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:52 AM   #5
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

It has always been illegal for us to play online poker. This just means nothing will change
http://de.pokerstrategy.com/home/ is the biggest german community and it has been discussed there for ages already, online poker will just stay what it is now "a grey area" and nothing will change sadly by the looks of it.
Even if something would change soon hopefully, germany would never seperate their players and not allow them to play on .com

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Old 06-21-2012, 09:04 AM   #6
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

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Germany is the biggest country now that the US is offline.
I'm curious how you know this. FWIW, Germany is 2+2's 3rd largest market after removing the US. Not saying it's necessarily the same for Stars, just wondering if you know this as fact or if it's an assumption.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:08 AM   #7
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I'm curious how you know this. FWIW, Germany is 2+2's 3rd largest market after removing the US. Not saying it's necessarily the same for Stars, just wondering if you know this as fact or if it's an assumption.

Two reasons:

1. Germany is the biggestest and strongest eco in EU anyhow

2. Germans play the most hands acccording to pokertableratings http://www.pokertableratings.com/top-countries
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:09 AM   #8
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

Maybe change the thread topic someone -_- because its not true
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:11 AM   #9
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oh damn, hopefully UK doesn't follow.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:14 AM   #10
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Actually I don't know a single player in Germany who is worried about this right now.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:14 AM   #11
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

Whether this affects German players or not, governments need to realize that nationalized player pools are TERRIBLE for everyone. The player pools shrink as potential income goes down and (usually) rake goes up -> poker sites make less money -> government makes less money. I understand they want to keep the cash flowing within their own boundaries and make sure they collect all the taxes possible but if they were to have agreements with other countries in terms of regulation and oversight, they wouldn't have to screw us all at the same time. There's no reason why poker as an industry cannot be regulated on an international level by an organization that can represent all participating countries. This is especially true in the EU.

Sadly, governments rarely ever get anything right as they are excellent at ****ing things up, usually in the costliest and most time consuming way possible.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:17 AM   #12
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Re: Pokerstars will lose its biggest player base July 1

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Two reasons:

1. Germany is the biggestest and strongest eco in EU anyhow

2. Germans play the most hands acccording to pokertableratings http://www.pokertableratings.com/top-countries
Oh, in that case.... !
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:17 AM   #13
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cliffs from the first link, please. otherwise discussion gets challenging
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:19 AM   #14
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Whether this affects German players or not, governments need to realize that nationalized player pools are TERRIBLE for everyone. The player pools shrink as potential income goes down and (usually) rake goes up -> poker sites make less money -> government makes less money. I understand they want to keep the cash flowing within their own boundaries and make sure they collect all the taxes possible but if they were to have agreements with other countries in terms of regulation and oversight, they wouldn't have to screw us all at the same time. There's no reason why poker as an industry cannot be regulated on an international level by an organization that can represent all participating countries. This is especially true in the EU.

Sadly, governments rarely ever get anything right as they are excellent at ****ing things up, usually in the costliest and most time consuming way possible.
So true. But I have absolutely no doubt that there will be a united EU player pool in the future. I just wonder how long it will take but its a 100% certainty
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:19 AM   #15
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Actually I don't know a single player in Germany who is worried about this right now.
Me either but I don't know a single player in Germany.
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