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07-19-2013 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
Look I will just say this and go to bed. I posted the link here on 2+2 you took it off. But..I will be damned if I copy/paste it here so you can cut it to shreds to your liking.
So you're going to accuse me of taking posts, on multiple occasions, and changing the context, and then provide no proof of the accusation?

You said I did so today, just a few posts ago - it really shouldn't be too hard to show where I did this. If I'm making a mistake, I'd like the opportunity to correct it.
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07-19-2013 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
So you're going to accuse me of taking posts, on multiple occasions, and changing the context, and then provide no proof of the accusation?

You said I did so today, just a few posts ago - it really shouldn't be too hard to show where I did this. If I'm making a mistake, I'd like the opportunity to correct it.
Again here you go and good night...

Look I will just say this and go to bed. I posted the link here on 2+2 you took it off. But..I will be damned if I copy/paste it here so you can cut it to shreds to your liking. Furthermore I am very well known in the Poker Community for my cash game play and well respected. I have no clue who you actually are but my real name is Anthony Lee Howe look it up is you so desire. I am more than certain if you type it in the search bar on face book it will be the first name to pop up seeing as I have over 3,150 people on my page. I have no time for you anymore tonight. So there you have it, I am not hiding anything from anybody, never have, never will. You want to continue letting people tell outright lies and rubbish here that is solely up to you.
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07-19-2013 , 03:56 AM
In conclusion, just dont play here, if they dont like u, they will just keep ur money and close ur account. Dont cry later..this thread is a huge and obvious warning.
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07-19-2013 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
Again here you go and good night...

Look I will just say this and go to bed. I posted the link here on 2+2 you took it off. But..I will be damned if I copy/paste it here so you can cut it to shreds to your liking. Furthermore I am very well known in the Poker Community for my cash game play and well respected. I have no clue who you actually are but my real name is Anthony Lee Howe look it up is you so desire. I am more than certain if you type it in the search bar on face book it will be the first name to pop up seeing as I have over 3,150 people on my page. I have no time for you anymore tonight. So there you have it, I am not hiding anything from anybody, never have, never will. You want to continue letting people tell outright lies and rubbish here that is solely up to you.
I ask for evidence of your accusation, and you give me your real name and tell me you aren't hiding. Thanks, but I wasn't really concerned about you hiding - I was asking you to back up your accusation.

Instead, you've managed to throw another accusation out there. I'm not letting (or not letting) anyone tell "outright lies and rubbish". Point out the problem posts, and we'll try to deal with them.
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07-19-2013 , 03:58 AM
Shrills Scams and Conartists OH My

i am glad i cut all the cancer outta my social networks for nothing good comes with an association of people that are known to lie cheat and steal from whoever and then try to ACT like they are perfect.

Fact is that Poker Dominicano or Freedom Poker or LTE Poker is just spinning their wheels and getting nowhere fast.
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07-19-2013 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I ask for evidence of your accusation, and you give me your real name and tell me you aren't hiding. Thanks, but I wasn't really concerned about you hiding - I was asking you to back up your accusation.

Instead, you've managed to throw another accusation out there. I'm not letting (or not letting) anyone tell "outright lies and rubbish". Point out the problem posts, and we'll try to deal with them.
Bobo think about it...Do you honestly expect me to go through this whole thread pointing out all the lies and trash talk I know to be for a certain fact untrue. I mean be reasonable. That might take me all night,
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07-19-2013 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
Bobo think about it...Do you honestly expect me to go through this whole thread pointing out all the lies and trash talk I know to be for a certain fact untrue. I mean be reasonable. That might take me all night,
Then stop posting about how I'm allowing lies that you can't be bothered to point out. I have no way of knowing who is lying; apparently you do. How is it fair to expect me to deal with alleged lies that I don't know about?

How's the evidence of your other accusations coming along?
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07-19-2013 , 04:14 AM
I mean look who shows up now? Exactly one of my points RavenKitty made 21 accounts with Poker D. Go back in the thread and look, it's all there, not to mention he tried to con me as well and when it didn't go his way started throwing out accusations about me that are untrue, then when I ask him to post the proof here on 2+2 he failed to do so. RavenKitty has been banned from multiple poker sites as well as forums. He is banned from Poker D yet here he is still allowed to be posting on this thread.
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07-19-2013 , 04:16 AM
so now all agree that if u see somethings said thats bad report it if they got bad stuff to post they need to have some proff also good stuff if somebody complains about either


and wait 21 NAMES ROFL
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07-19-2013 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
I mean look who shows up now? Exactly one of my points RavenKitty made 21 accounts with Poker D. Go back in the thread and look, it's all there, not to mention he tried to con me as well and when it didn't go his way started throwing out accusations about me that are untrue, then when I ask him to post the proof here on 2+2 he failed to do so. RavenKitty has been banned from multiple poker sites as well as forums. He is banned from Poker D yet here he is still allowed to be posting on this thread.
I'm not sure how you think a forum should work, but believe it or not, we don't bar people from a thread or ban them the first moment someone claims they were banned elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
then when I ask him to post the proof here on 2+2 he failed to do so.
Yeah, don't you hate when that happens?
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07-19-2013 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Then stop posting about how I'm allowing lies that you can't be bothered to point out. I have no way of knowing who is lying; apparently you do. How is it fair to expect me to deal with alleged lies that I don't know about?

How's the evidence of your other accusations coming along?
Forgive me I am very tired. Evidence of what accusations?
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07-19-2013 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
Forgive me I am very tired. Evidence of what accusations?
Seriously???

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
So you're going to accuse me of taking posts, on multiple occasions, and changing the context, and then provide no proof of the accusation?

You said I did so today, just a few posts ago - it really shouldn't be too hard to show where I did this. If I'm making a mistake, I'd like the opportunity to correct it.
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I ask for evidence of your accusation, and you give me your real name and tell me you aren't hiding. Thanks, but I wasn't really concerned about you hiding - I was asking you to back up your accusation.

Instead, you've managed to throw another accusation out there. I'm not letting (or not letting) anyone tell "outright lies and rubbish". Point out the problem posts, and we'll try to deal with them.
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07-19-2013 , 04:24 AM
GoodsEvil points out, but doesnt mention me being accused at the same time of collusion and multi accounting lol. I was banned and my funds stolen with the only proof of me playing in the same wifi with friend and letting him play at my computer, AFTER sending IDS.

So tell me, is it possible or only in PD to accuse of multiaccounting and collusion at the same time? Saying and investigation will start and then the final answer being "u will never be unlocked ever" lol.

People dont play in this underfunded, shady, uncontrolled, scammy site. Ur money is not safe.
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07-19-2013 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'm not sure how you think a forum should work, but believe it or not, we don't bar people from a thread or ban them the first moment someone claims they were banned elsewhere.


Yeah, don't you hate when that happens?
CLAIM! It is a known fact, look it up! There is documented fact on this thread that he created 21 accounts at Poker Dominicano. Not to mention if you need proof he is banned from merge network you can easily find that out. And banned from many forums is also easy to find out. But...lets just go back to Poker D, why not go back and look at the proof they provided sometime back in this thread on what he did? And yet he is still allowed to post here? Can you explain that to me? I mean that just makes no sense.
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07-19-2013 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by luifer611
GoodsEvil points out, but doesnt mention me being accused at the same time of collusion and multi accounting lol. I was banned and my funds stolen with the only proof of me playing in the same wifi with friend and letting him play at my computer, AFTER sending IDS.

So tell me, is it possible or only in PD to accuse of multiaccounting and collusion at the same time? Saying and investigation will start and then the final answer being "u will never be unlocked ever" lol.

People dont play in this underfunded, shady, uncontrolled, scammy site. Ur money is not safe.
DUDE YOU WERE BUSTED LONG AGO. IF I WERE YOU I WOULD KICK ROCKS PAL ROFL!
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07-19-2013 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Seriously???
Also so not to ignore you on this subject. I apologize you did answer every question asked in that post. However, I have seen you take pieces of posts and focus on one or two points and ignore the whole rest of the post many times. Also I never accused you of changing any context of posts although I suppose you could do that very easily.
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07-19-2013 , 04:48 AM
Alright now that I have answered all your questions I think. TAG Bobo your it!

CLAIM! It is a known fact, look it up! There is documented fact on this thread that he created 21 accounts at Poker Dominicano. Not to mention if you need proof he is banned from merge network you can easily find that out. And banned from many forums is also easy to find out. But...lets just go back to Poker D, why not go back and look at the proof they provided sometime back in this thread on what he did? And yet he is still allowed to post here? Can you explain that to me? I mean that just makes no sense.
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07-19-2013 , 04:54 AM
Let me interject, so I understand your relationship with PokerDomincano GoodsEvil, what is your role with the company? ARe you a spokesman or just a player? Because if your a spokesman, it makes sense, but if your just a player, then it doesnt make sense.

Maybe I missed the post where you explained your relationship with the company.
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07-19-2013 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jstew80
Let me interject, so I understand your relationship with PokerDomincano GoodsEvil, what is your role with the company? ARe you a spokesman or just a player? Because if your a spokesman, it makes sense, but if your just a player, then it doesnt make sense.

Maybe I missed the post where you explained your relationship with the company.
My relationship was never brought up. But if you would like to know I will explain...I am a former affiliate and prop, I have been through some of the ups and downs at Poker D with trying to help rebuild after LTE. However, due to other ventures taking up my time I gave my affiliates to another Poker Forum that I will not name here, but I am most certain you know which one. Anyway like I was saying, I am no longer an affiliate or prop due to time constraints on other ventures. You know me by Iceman and I know you by Madgamble.

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07-19-2013 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
CLAIM! It is a known fact, look it up! There is documented fact on this thread that he created 21 accounts at Poker Dominicano. Not to mention if you need proof he is banned from merge network you can easily find that out. And banned from many forums is also easy to find out. But...lets just go back to Poker D, why not go back and look at the proof they provided sometime back in this thread on what he did? And yet he is still allowed to post here? Can you explain that to me? I mean that just makes no sense.
Yes, very simply.

2+2 has never had a policy of banning people for actions taken off our site. I mean, it's happened once in a while, but it's pretty rare. As an example, here's a guy who admitted to opening at least 30 Poker Stars (our biggest advertiser) accounts, and doing so to fraudulently claim bonuses:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ed-ps-1352113/

You can find countless examples of people who have been accused of doing things elsewhere that post in our forums.

Let's take the other extreme, where we ban people who are accused of defrauding a poker site. Now we get a site like Absolute Poker who want to get rid of some people accusing AP of cheating them, so they tell us those players were the ones who cheated, and we ban them. Is this a good policy? I don't think it is, and I expect most of our members agree. So rather than trying to determine who is or isn't telling the truth, we generally don't police what people have done elsewhere, although there are of course occasional exceptions.

We also have thousands of threads where people have had negative things to say about all sorts of poker sites, including advertisers. Some of those posters have very little or no evidence, and I imagine some are lying. Some have been caught out in their lies. But we don't get poker sites asking us to remove those posts or ban the posters.

There seems to be something of a disconnect here with some of PD's supporters and the way things work on the forums. I don't think a lot of you understand how lightly we moderate site criticism, for the most part. This isn't unique to PD - we try to treat all sites the same way in this regard. We feel it's much better to have some false/spurious accusations stand than to risk deleting them. The obviously false accusations usually get outed very quickly, and the posters lose all credibility. The poker sites who are most successful on our forums are the ones who are able to keep themselves above the fray, and handle the negative posts well. And some posts just aren't worth it for the site reps to respond to.

For better or worse, that's a general overview of how things are handled here on 2+2. I try to warn all of our advertisers that, for the most part, they shouldn't expect us to delete negative feedback.
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07-19-2013 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodvsEvil1971
Also so not to ignore you on this subject. I apologize you did answer every question asked in that post.
Thanks.

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However, I have seen you take pieces of posts and focus on one or two points and ignore the whole rest of the post many times.
Yes, absolutely. That's usually because someone might have a few points in their post that I disagree with and want to discuss, so I only quote those portions for simplicity. However, I always make sure the correct quote tags are intact, so one could always click on the little arrow to see the entire post I am replying to. I apologize if you feel I've done this to you in a misleading way in the past. In the future, feel free to point out questions or points I've missed.

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Also I never accused you of changing any context of posts although I suppose you could do that very easily.
I thought that was what you were implying when you said "Some parts do not make a whole. I could take parts of a book and when I was finished make it look like a total different story"; apologies if that wasn't what you meant.
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07-19-2013 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yes, very simply.

2+2 has never had a policy of banning people for actions taken off our site. I mean, it's happened once in a while, but it's pretty rare. As an example, here's a guy who admitted to opening at least 30 Poker Stars (our biggest advertiser) accounts, and doing so to fraudulently claim bonuses:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ed-ps-1352113/

You can find countless examples of people who have been accused of doing things elsewhere that post in our forums.

Let's take the other extreme, where we ban people who are accused of defrauding a poker site. Now we get a site like Absolute Poker who want to get rid of some people accusing AP of cheating them, so they tell us those players were the ones who cheated, and we ban them. Is this a good policy? I don't think it is, and I expect most of our members agree. So rather than trying to determine who is or isn't telling the truth, we generally don't police what people have done elsewhere, although there are of course occasional exceptions.

We also have thousands of threads where people have had negative things to say about all sorts of poker sites, including advertisers. Some of those posters have very little or no evidence, and I imagine some are lying. Some have been caught out in their lies. But we don't get poker sites asking us to remove those posts or ban the posters.

There seems to be something of a disconnect here with some of PD's supporters and the way things work on the forums. I don't think a lot of you understand how lightly we moderate site criticism, for the most part. This isn't unique to PD - we try to treat all sites the same way in this regard. We feel it's much better to have some false/spurious accusations stand than to risk deleting them. The obviously false accusations usually get outed very quickly, and the posters lose all credibility. The poker sites who are most successful on our forums are the ones who are able to keep themselves above the fray, and handle the negative posts well. And some posts just aren't worth it for the site reps to respond to.

For better or worse, that's a general overview of how things are handled here on 2+2. I try to warn all of our advertisers that, for the most part, they shouldn't expect us to delete negative feedback.
Alright I see what you are saying here. However, awhile back, shortly after you gave Poker D the Official thread...And I do remember this without having to go back and look.2+2 told them that they should only stick to answering support questions and nothing else which limited what they could reply to when allegations were made. So this being the case do you contend that this action is fair? And another thing...Your Mike Haven here told Poker D to ask me to quit posting and if not suggested they disowned me? This is what you call professionalism on this Forum? If that is the case 2+2 has their priorities all ...... up!

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07-19-2013 , 05:25 AM
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To the administrators of 2+2 ,

This thread is out of control and you allow this to continue. You always deleted my post and corrected me and yet allow everyone else to just write whatever they want. It is very clear as to how many of this individuals are trying to destroy Poker Dominicano. Since there is no moderation and nothing is being done to protect our reputation, we request the twoplustwo forums cease and desist this thread within 48 hours. In such case that this request is not met we will move to extreme measures and settle this via our third party attorneys. Poker Dominicano is a registered Brand and therefor the use our of name here must stop now.

CHECK YOUR PM.

Your use of Poker Dominicano is a violation of Poker Dominicano’s common law trademark rights, common law service mark rights, and trade name rights, and this letter constitutes Poker Dominicano’s demand that you cease and desist any and all use of these domain names on twoplustwo forums.
Two Plus Two is a poker forum where players can discuss poker sites, Two Plus Two does not "use" your trademark at all and it was in fact a player that opened this thread - yes, one of your customers.

"nothing is being done to protect our reputation" - You surely got that right with the way you have been acting in this thread. You want to blame the customers now that are not pleased with your lack of transparency? Kindly look in the mirror first !!!

By the way - here is a simple and easy to answer question for you as poker room rep regarding the reputation of your poker brand. How come that I cannot find any certificate of your gambling license on your website? Should it not be prominently displayed for everybody to see?

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07-19-2013 , 05:33 AM
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Two Plus Two is a poker forum where players can discuss poker sites, Two Plus Two does not "use" your trademark at all and it was in fact a player that opened this thread - yes, one of your customers.

"nothing is being done to protect our reputation" - You surely got that right with the way you have been acting in this thread. You want to blame the customers now that are not pleased with your lack of transparency? Kindly look in the mirror first !!!
Now here walks in another idiot that has nothing to say but bad about Poker D. Dude, do you even play on the site? I only ask this because if you don't why are you even posting on this thread. Another thing is and the mods can correct me if I am wrong. After this became an Official Rep thread it didn't matter who started it.

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07-19-2013 , 05:57 AM
Goodvsevil1971 you are the most passionate customer of a poker site in the history of online poker. CONgrats. This whole thread is really great.
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