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02-18-2012 , 04:56 PM

JeremiahDaInnocent

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

I received an email about two weeks ago telling me that I have been chip dumping to a specific player at their 1/2 6m tables. After the investigation they concluded that I was clearly chip dumping and I dont know where to go from here. Im goin to post EVERY hand that i played that had both of us involved. please tell me what you guys think.

MODS : if im not allowed to post this thread please let me know.

Pacific, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11910692

SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $420.01 (210 bb)
MP: $370.20 (185.1 bb)
CO: $212.33 (106.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $404.75 (202.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6

MP folds, CO raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $18.75, 2 folds, CO raises to $59.25, Hero calls $40.50

Flop: ($121.50) A

(2 players)
CO bets $91.12, Hero folds

Results: $121.50 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: A

CO mucked and won $117.50 ($58.25 net)
Hero mucked 6

and lost (-$59.25 net)

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Pacific, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11910712

BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $330.55 (165.3 bb)
MP: $151.35 (75.7 bb)
CO: $223.25 (111.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $210.83 (105.4 bb)
SB: $179.12 (89.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8

UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24, SB raises to $81, 2 folds, Hero calls $57

Flop: ($171) 7

(2 players)
SB bets $98.12 and is all-in, Hero calls $98.12

Turn: ($367.24) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($367.24) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $367.24 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 7

Hero showed 8

and lost (-$179.12 net)
SB showed A

and won $363.24 ($184.12 net)

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Pacific, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11910702

Hero (BTN): $236.70 (118.4 bb)
SB: $203.60 (101.8 bb)
UTG: $226.24 (113.1 bb)
BB: $335.18 (167.6 bb)
MP: $319.63 (159.8 bb)
CO: $161 (80.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, Hero raises to $31, 2 folds, MP calls $24, CO calls $24

Flop: ($96) 4

(3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($96) 5

(3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($96) 2

(3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $48, Hero calls $48, MP folds

Results: $192 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 4

Hero showed Q

and lost (-$79 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$31 net)
CO showed 9

and won $188 ($109 net)

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Pacific, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11910722

Hero (BB): $317.35 (158.7 bb)
UTG: $209.15 (104.6 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $326 (163 bb)
BTN: $320.50 (160.3 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

MP posts BB OOP, UTG folds, MP checks, 2 folds, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $26, MP folds, SB calls $18

Flop: ($54) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36, SB raises to $162, Hero raises to $288, SB calls $12 and is all-in

Turn: ($402) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($402) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $402 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 3

Hero showed T

and lost (-$200 net)
SB showed J

and won $398 ($198 net)

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02-18-2012 , 05:02 PM

napsus

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they are ****ing delusional if they think these hands are chip dumping

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02-18-2012 , 05:14 PM

Johan5390

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,890

^+1

if that is considered to be chip dumping i wouldve been banned from every pokersite ive ever played on

ridiculous...

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02-18-2012 , 06:12 PM

this_passing

소녀시대 애교 대박

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,442

whoever locked your acct either doesn't play poker, is 5 years old, on drugs, or all 3. hope they review these hands again and realize what a bad mistake they've made

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02-18-2012 , 06:35 PM

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

It remains to be confirmed though that it was indeed only those 4 hands above that were used to determine any illegal activity.

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02-18-2012 , 06:58 PM

JeremiahDaInnocent

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

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Originally Posted by 39suited

It remains to be confirmed though that it was indeed only those 4 hands above that were used to determine any illegal activity.

Please tell me how I can confirm that these are the only hands, if u need screenshots I'll be more than happy to post them.

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02-18-2012 , 07:05 PM

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

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Originally Posted by JeremiahDaInnocent

Please tell me how I can confirm that these are the only hands, if u need screenshots I'll be more than happy to post them.

You can't confirm them, only 888 can imho. They need to provide the hands in question for that investigation upon request afaik.

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02-18-2012 , 10:10 PM

pkrtxs

is really old

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,029

that is ridiculous for pacific to do that. hopefully someone has some pull that sees this and can rectify the situation for u. good luck

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02-18-2012 , 11:04 PM

Byrung

too late axe in car

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 4,395

888 is getting a really bad reputation for making up things and stealing peoples money. Even their casino is borderline rogue. Lots of complaints on other forums, even from respected members

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02-19-2012 , 02:08 AM

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JeremiahDaInnocent

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

does Pacific 888 have a representative on 2p2 ??

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02-19-2012 , 04:51 AM

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kratks

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 53

These are the only hands you played with the opponent they say you were chip dumping to?
Whats your username on 888?

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02-19-2012 , 05:05 AM

#12

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

this is all sorts of holy **** bad if true.

has 888 security never played omaha before?

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02-19-2012 , 08:59 AM

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s1plzcall911

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 159

I'm the villain in the posted hands (plo247365). My account is locked/suspended as well. As you can see from the hand history files any accusations of chip dumping are absolutely/beyond pathetic. I'm still trying to prove my innocence to Cassava Enterprises, the subsidiary that handles deposits/cash outs game security for 888 network skins. I do plan to make a separate post about the situation in the nearest future.

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02-19-2012 , 09:25 AM

#14

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

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Originally Posted by s1plzcall911

I'm still trying to prove my innocence to Cassava Enterprises, the subsidiary that handles deposits/cash outs game security for 888 network skins.

They are no subsidiary, they actually own 888 and the whole network.

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Originally Posted by JeremiahDaInnocent

does Pacific 888 have a representative on 2p2 ??

Sticky thread with all official threads has a link to this one:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1076775/

Created by the 888Rep: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/290780/

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Originally Posted by poker.is.rigged

DB in the thread

Don't be so hard on yourself.

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02-19-2012 , 05:16 PM

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JeremiahDaInnocent

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

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Originally Posted by s1plzcall911

confirmed that the villain in hhs is plo247365

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02-19-2012 , 07:25 PM

#16

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

how much $ did you guys have there?

i really want to know if this situation is:

-theft by 888
-stupidity by 888
-op actually being guilty but leaving out key details and hands

if either of the top 2 there should probably be a sticky warning all plo players to stay away from the network.

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02-19-2012 , 07:46 PM

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JeremiahDaInnocent

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

im not leaving any details out, i grabbed any hand where there was more than 10bbs in the pot and plo247365 and i were involved.

also, is it common for ppl to chip dump at 6m tables ???

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02-19-2012 , 08:11 PM

#18

Kittens

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,016

How did this even get reported in the first place?

On actual chip dump threads people have opined that the sites should be running software to detect it, without having to wait for the community to report.

Obviously(?) whatever software 888 uses has decided that this is suspicious

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02-19-2012 , 08:13 PM

#19

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

I can bump the thread to a contact at 888 if you don't get any reply from their 2+2 Rep within the next few days.

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02-19-2012 , 08:16 PM

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JeremiahDaInnocent

stranger

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that'd be great 39suited.

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02-19-2012 , 08:18 PM

#21

JeremiahDaInnocent

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

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Originally Posted by Kittens

some lady that works for 888 security sent me an email letting me know that my account was under investigation, this was about 2 weeks ago. I figured i didn't do anything wrong so after the investigation, my account would open back up. i waited a few days, got no reply so i emailed them and they told me that i have been chip dumping but they still need to investigate further. about a week later (lol) she tells me that it's confirmed that i was chip dumping and i asked repeatedly for her to send me hand histories and i still haven't gotten a reply.

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02-19-2012 , 08:20 PM

#22

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

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Originally Posted by JeremiahDaInnocent

that'd be great 39suited.

What's your nick on 888, same as the 2+2 one? Because that shows when I click on the hand history but not sure if that only shows the 2+2 nickname of the person that uploaded it. If not they should probably find it via the opponent that you mentioned a few posts back.

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02-19-2012 , 08:31 PM

#23

JeremiahDaInnocent

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14

PMd ^^^

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02-19-2012 , 09:16 PM

#24

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremiahDaInnocent

im not leaving any details out, i grabbed any hand where there was more than 10bbs in the pot and plo247365 and i were involved.

dont take this the wrong way, but from a neutral objective position, you would say this either way.

thats why i think its important for an 888 response.

if they think that those hands are even close to dumping it shows an unbelievable ignorance of the game.

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02-19-2012 , 09:33 PM

#25

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

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Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

thats why i think its important for an 888 response.

if they think that those hands are even close to dumping it shows an unbelievable ignorance of the game.

Forwarded it to my contact there and hope someone from 888 will get back to OP as soon as possible. If in fact the mentioned hands were considered as chip dumping, I volunteer to explain them how to play Omaha.

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