Its not brand new software. Its a replica from another site.

^ No, I don't, which is why I never said they built new software, just that they had new software. much easier to buy a platform that's 80% complete and make whatever adjustments/additions you want in a fraction of the time it would take starting from the ground up.

Ive always been a big supporter of BOL, but jesus Christ the introduction of ONLY Anon HU tables along with the timeline of this thread if soooooooooo sketchy.

I would have loved to seen the OPTION of anon tables, and at all size tables. Leave it to the players to decide between anon or normal.

But forcing all HU to now be anon, that's ****ing weird.

I'm glad I don't play HU or high stakes

Which one exactly?

Some pointed out that it's the First Fidelity (YouWager) software.

www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=YouWager

Well, most Russian players I know prefer to use HUD while playing.
So it is not a coincidence.

If youre still playing here you deserve to be superused, this is so blatant.

1) This should be posted/stickied to NVG so it gets seen by more eyes to stop people depositing/playing on a crooked site.

2) Get your $ off.

3) Delete software.

4) Collate all your HHs and info, all who were superused club together and hire an attorney ~> have them construct case and present to the company/jurisdiction that grants Tiger a gaming license.

5) Same group of superused players, ALL, individually contact Tiger/Chico and make it very clear you are going to PokerNews/Calvin Ayre/PokerListings and whoever else are the main poker media outlets and going to make it public with all your evidence. Theres many writers, editors and people that work for those poker media companies who would take the story on, most of them are on Twitter.

I'm all for no huds...

I just deposited on here to give it a shot since they had the update and made 2k last night. PLO is a fun game lol

It's easy when you can see hole cards.

I think this could blow right up if the right people were to see this thread and start digging into it further ! It is so blatant like you said, and not at all surprising to my eyes what they have done. They are in panic mode now trying to cover their tracks. This is the same network that operated insolvent as actionpoker for so many years, and some of the staff still seems to work there. I bet Clive Archer was glad to bail and start his own Equity Poker Network before it got ugly... or was he ?

BetOnline save face and join a new network or come up with their own software before this goes mainstream.

@op

What do you use to get hand histories from new chico software?

I'm surprised this isnt getting more attention, chico isnt small network...

I'm not all that surprised given the lack of hard evidence, and the fact that Chico isn't exactly a big network.

how come they change the software and all the regs are gone now at high stakes ?

Pretty sure ive been playing against a bunch of bots all that time im disgusted

When they change a software they cant run bots anymore they have to modify them

I was considering playing a bit on chico recently so every now and then i check the games at my hours and ever since the update there's been like 4 fish per table with very little tables

So yeah, 95% of the player pool are russian bots. I have posted something similar often in other threads, i reported tons of bots on party and since they have all been gone i can get 3-4 fish per table very often at 50n while other sites im lucky not to get 5 bots at my tables

Maybe users were able to hack the software somehow and BOL found out, doesnt want to admit it for bad PR and instead worked toward making better and more secure software to solve the bot and "super user" problem.

One can only wish.

here are the hands posted in this thread so far.


https://www.weaktight.com/h/57671b51d390438b3e8b467e
Its 10bb deep, fish like connected hands. He happened to have you outkicked. I don't see anything here at all

http://www.pokerhand.org/?6799148
This is the only really suspicious hand I see in the thread, but I can come up with some possibilities that don't include superusing. 1) He thought he was playing the board and chopping with you somehow, as in he thinks the TTAQ is his hand on the river. Its dumb but I've seen some things like this happen live. 2) He misreads his hand for a flush on river. 3) Wanted to see what you had and didn't care if he lost - I'll admit all of these seem a bit thin, but one legit crazy hand does not a superuser make

https://www.weaktight.com/h/57671c45d3904308318b45c9
This hand is incredibly uninteresting. He called flop with a gutshot and then decided to jam instead of check/call or check/fold

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=21
Fish donks middle pair for 3 streets and doesn't fold to a raise. This happens.


https://www.weaktight.com/h/577da2b0d390433c528b47c9
Calls a flop raise with an Ace and a backdoor. Checks back a flushdraw and then decides not to bluff river. If he had A4o
I'd be more suspicious. Very possible that he just decided that you we FOS and was gonna bluff but then turned a flushdraw and wanted to bink.

https://www.weaktight.com/h/577da4a8d39043e56f8b47a0
I mean, it looks weird, but he could just think he has the best hand so he bets. Thats a very common thought process from fish. Its also possible he was bluffing and wanted you to fold by repping a K. Maybe its a bad bluff and you never fold better, but that doesn't mean he's super using just to bet this hand.


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If we saw hundreds of hands this player played and we saw him consistently folding when we had strong hands and making even more of these strange plays and just being consistently correct, then we might have something.

However, what we have is 6 hands, 5 of which I can see a number of fish playing the same exact way. And 1 of which does look suspicious. Thats just not enough to draw the conclusion that the player is super using.

If anyone can post ALL of their hands played agains this player. Not just the ones they deem suspicious, then the community can likely make a pretty good determination.

Would love to see full hh's posted to get a definite conclusion. Been burned before and I can honestly say there is no way in _ell I could deposit here in the near future. Also agree with poster questioning timing of software update which in esscensce nullifies the users ability to not sit with these specific accounts in question. If superusers were confirmed true this would effectively kill the network for good and trigger a massive rush of players trying to mass withdraw all at once. Still without extensive hh's outing the supposed super users it seems to me like to big of leap to make without concrete evidence.

That hand w the 8 high... Just looks like 2 std crappy players making crappy calls...
U Got called down w ur crap and that means opp is cheating ?

Not a super user ... Sorry

Though this would have advantaged, the problem with this is that bot-investigating will become even more of an impossible mission...

anyways, shocking news and hope it will get spreaded.

What is the "shocking news and hope it will get spreaded" - that a few posters claim there are super users, but almost 5 months after creating this thread, they still haven't been able to gather more than a handful of hand histories?

so funny.. 4 years later after this clearly Super User cases just before the big update.. Chico have now more than 40 to 50 bots playing both NL and PLO highstakes and refuses to do anything at all