There are literally around 50 skins on the Everleaf gaming network. What is up with that? Some of the skins must literally have 20 players, if you think about it (given the traffic). Seems weird to me. Maybe 20 players who want high effective rakeback just get together and start a skin or something?

Chat support for the network told me that they did away with ITA tables. Some of the skins, though, I know, have some private tables. The network is trying to do away with these private tables from what I understand?

Is it just some of the skins that have a casino attached to the poker room?

I think you counted wrong mate. Their are currently 184 skins on Everleaf that are still active. There are so many likely because it is one of the cheaper networks to purchase a skin. Since all Everleaf skins have their payments processed by the network itself, the skins are never in control of the money. So you can't get Microgame'd. To say they did away with ITA tables is sort of true, however they did not do away with segregated tables. They just have regular names now instead of "ITA" or "CMXX" in the title, so it is not as easy to notice now.

As far as casinos, I am less certain on because I just stick to poker. Most of the skins now seem to have at least a regular casino, and recently some are adding casinos with live dealers. Someone else could probably give better info on the casinos.

do you know where I can see a list of the 184?

This makes me wonder about a couple of things:

Why does the Everleaf page only list less that 30 partners?
http://www.everleafgaming.com/our-partners
Is a "partner" something different from a "skin" ?

The Everleaf site suggests that some skins may handle payments themselves. Is there a list of those?

On those Everleaf rooms that I have checked, they all seem to have the same T&C text which says a player is only allowed to have ONE account on the network.
On the other hand, it sounds like many people have accounts on multiple everleaf poker rooms.
Can someone clarify the status with this? Is this rule not enforced?

Thats a lot of skins. They continue to grow and have moved right behind Cake on the Pokerscout list. I know a lot of times Pokerscout is off. Does anyone know if Everleaf's traffic is truly competitive with Cake?

Been keeping my eye on Everleaf and been considering it as a possible new site down the road. Are the games soft?

Short of compiling it yourself manually, I don't know how that would be possible. I have never seen it compiled anywhere online.

I would say at this point cash traffic is about even. The big difference is time of traffic. Everleaf traffic is based around CET, so the traffic dies off after European prime time. Whereas Cake is mostly US focused and most of their traffic comes during US peak times.

There is a not-always-uptodate list of skins on pokerscout:

http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail...af&ab=33225567

but it only shows 121 skins currently if i counted correctly. Do you have a list of all skins online somewhere?

They offer their platform to anyone that wants to buy it, e.g. Partouche has a different cashier. The networks on the Everleaf platform, though, all use the Everleaf cashier.

The worst they'll do to you is ask you to choose one account. If you have old accounts you're not playing any more they probably won't even be looking for you. If you want to open a new account just use a different email address and you can even ask them to move your documents, if you're verified, over to your new account. I wouldn't keep playing an old and a new account, though: they have reason to worry about people doing that.

Some of their "private" networks are among the softest tracker-compatible sites.

The just did not include all of the skins there. I don't know why.

I don't find this unusual. The MergeGaming page only lists so many skins too, and I've seen the same for other networks before. Just a guess, but I doubt the networks feel like keeping up with it. The pages of the poker networks do not seem to get updated very frequently.

I am pretty shocked that as the manager of one of their skins, you cannot obtain this from the network. I don't believe you will find the full list publicly as the network does not want it published, at the request of skins.

Was gonna make a 'more skins than players' joke but realized it was probably the truth.

The worst they'll do to you is ask you to choose one account. If you have old accounts you're not playing any more they probably won't even be looking for you. If you want to open a new account just use a different email address and you can even ask them to move your documents, if you're verified, over to your new account. I wouldn't keep playing an old and a new account, though: they have reason to worry about people doing that.

who are they ? everlealf network ?? i would ask the nework ,? i would ask them to move my documents, is that what you are saying ?

If you have a good agent or affiliate they can ask the room to get your documents moved. There's some indication that Everleaf may be tightening up on this and not moving documents so easily anymore, however. I'm not sure yet.

It's not difficult to have your account moved from one Everleaf room to another.

If you want to move your account you need to go to the live support chat. Tell them you have an account on "X" room and want to close that account and move your account balance to "y" room and they will move the balance for you.

a skin used to cost around 5k€ so not a huge investment

Here at Everleaf we know two things:


The cost of opening an Everleaf skin 5k Euros.

The satisfaction of stealing the balance from every American players account, priceless!

why does ELG have more skins than iPoker?

the situation there is quite complicated, they re under the manage of the lga itself but we all know that just few players have been refunded :/ really sick. btw is still possible to recover money in other unconventional ways.....

Yeah it was awesome of them to offer moneybookers at the time as a cashout option for Usa players when moneybookers didn't process usa poker transactions. Cretins.

Don't forget they also offered Netteller, which is not open to US players or the option of getting a foreign bank account registered to you.

i dont think he meant that by unconventional ways..

I mean : the network is not dead yet , right? It means there are still players which are playing there and which currently lose money and so there're clubs which "bring money" to the network. If u're able to reach one of these guys which have a losers-business there u can sell them the credit and been paid back of ur everleaf funds

Americans can't transfer funds so we can't sell them.