People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management - Page 2 - Internet Poker

At least with tracking there's a chamce to prove or disprove how much money is pumping into those things and how much money they're paying out. Otherwise it'd be players having to trust stars is on the up and up and we all know how that might turn out

lol'ed at:
It's Dnegs looking out for the players.

Quote

12-19-2015 , 10:58 PM

#28

smacc25

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,969

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesbeast

What was funny is after I busted the guy on the right the viewing went to 4...then 5 then 6....why for a $7 game??

There's quite a lot off these spins on youtube. When the 1mil is won its on st8 away on a channel I watch on youtube. I use the channel for the EPT'S

Quote

12-19-2015 , 11:05 PM

#29

random btn

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,431

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATT111

It's Dnegs looking out for the players.

<3 <3 too good

Quote

12-20-2015 , 02:32 AM

#30

bigdongbrad

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 364

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATT111

It's Dnegs looking out for the players.

too soon

Quote

12-20-2015 , 02:33 AM

#31

bigdongbrad

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 364

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeVariance

haha he will get a reply to that email when stars starts giving a **** about something more than money...so approximately when pigs fly. Seriously though, its obviously users data mining info and stars obviously knows about it because people have brought up this issue in the past many times, with nothing changing. So its either stars themselves behind it or they sold the right to some company to mine data. Take your pick but I assure you its one of the two.

how do you not know this is already occuring, google it scientists in romania are onto something

Quote

12-20-2015 , 02:35 AM

#32

bigdongbrad

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 364

this is clearly just play money players trying to figure out how to win all the monies from spins

Quote

12-20-2015 , 02:41 AM

#33

vrael111

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATT111

It's Dnegs looking out for the players.

Winnar

Quote

12-20-2015 , 03:15 AM

#34

DonkPredat0r

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 329

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mig

#CouldHaveDoneMore

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATT111

It's Dnegs looking out for the players.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 03:16 AM

#35

Nobel1

grinder

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 666

^^ Lol´d

Nowadays Stars is probably just removing the feature to see how many people are watching instead of doing somthing about it.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 03:30 AM

#36

Sect7G

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,234

If Stars can't foresee a potential profit off of security than they have no incentive to investigate.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 03:36 AM

#37

1v1

banned

Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 65

If the bots, and sne elite theft wasn't enough, this should tell you all you need to know about trusting your money at Pokerstars moving forward with this level of game security/integrity and evasive, deceitful "management"

Is someone at Pokerstars i know is reading this going to take ownership like a man/woman and respond or just hide out until another new account hops in his/her first million spin and donks

Quote

12-20-2015 , 04:21 AM

#38

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,826

Quote:

Originally Posted by restorativejustice

Name changes should be allowed. Of course, that still disadvantages the true fun players that have no idea that there is such a thing as datamining, HUDs, etc. so they don't bother .

Unibet often make "create a new alias" part of the monthly challenge offer for that reason.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 04:22 AM

#39

No Pair, No Draw

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 29

So quit PokerStars already or learn to deal.

A third of the threads in NVG must be complaints about Amaya/PokerStars. Do online players do anything but complain? Just leave their ecosystem. Surely there must be better options out there.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 05:07 AM

#40

cilderr

adept

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 774

?? wtf is the big deal here? There is demand for datamining, so naturally, bots will datamine and getting rid of some datamining sites is obv not the first priority for stars. Or are ur spinEVs negative and ur embarassed that someone finds out how bad a player u are?

Quote

12-20-2015 , 05:34 AM

#41

TouchOfEVil

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,134

Quote:

Originally Posted by LektorAJ

Unibet often make "create a new alias" part of the monthly challenge offer for that reason.

clever

Quote

12-20-2015 , 05:38 AM

#42

fightingcoward

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,186

Much more worried about all the bots crushing spins than the dataming which ironically can be used to identify said bots

Quote

12-20-2015 , 06:23 AM

#43

PasswordGotHacked

banned

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,913

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Pair, No Draw

If you read some of the threads you may be able to answer some of your own questions as ridiculous as they are.

I do hope you do this to get some clarity. People (especially a large group) don't generally cause a massive ****storm without merit

Quote

12-20-2015 , 08:15 AM

#44

No Pair, No Draw

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by PasswordGotHacked

If you read some of the threads you may be able to answer some of your own questions as ridiculous as they are.

I only had one question, do online players do anything but complain?

Quote:

I do hope you do this to get some clarity. People (especially a large group) don't generally cause a massive ****storm without merit

There is no massive storm unless you think "let's not play for 3 days and then go back to playing" means something. Cash out already or suck it up.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 08:25 AM

#45

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

It's dataminers. See this thread in the Zoo from July 2015: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...stars-1543880/

Cliffs: Datamining in Spingos has been going on for a while. Stars knows who is doing it, but hasn't found or implemented a way to permanently prevent it, possibly because they don't care about the problem as much as some players do.

Example sales pitch from a dataminer on another forum:

Quote

12-20-2015 , 04:21 PM

#46

WateryBoil

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,762

Quote:

Originally Posted by restorativejustice

Name changes should be allowed. Of course, that still disadvantages the true fun players that have no idea that there is such a thing as datamining, HUDs, etc. so they don't bother to change them.

Anonymous is probably the way to go while still allowing you to keep an image up if you want, but what would become of the Russian economy now that oil prices have collapsed if poker winnings and withdrawals were also curtailed by such measures?

lol....

Quote

12-20-2015 , 06:17 PM

#47

Albert Socrates

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 190

Why not hide the screenames of people involved in a game? Let only those who are playing the game, sitting at the table, see what the others screenname are. If you are just observing a table without playing then all you could see is the avatar and maybe the first letter of their screenname or something. This would solve the datamining issues without much change in the dynamics of the game.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 06:20 PM

#48

Nick_AA

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,458

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Socrates

Seems like a pretty legit solution.

Quote

12-20-2015 , 07:23 PM

#49

BadSeed

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 470

I feel datamining protects the players. Without datamining Potripper and his friends would have a much easier life. Darren Woods on 888 was caught thanks to it, as well as countless bot rings all over the internet. Poker rooms' security is usually a joke, but poker players with samples of mined data can step up and do their job.