PartyPoker sitout protest. POSTPONED. See Post #100
10-25-2013
, 02:48 PM
10-25-2013
, 03:13 PM
10-25-2013
, 03:17 PM
collected together cliffs about the segregation abuse from the party thread
(no reply from rep or new head of poker from pokerstars, jeffrey haas)
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I have checked all nick names I have seen playing in the pool at PTR. There are many bad players and also some good players. A bunch of hungarian and romanian players (why cant every poker site just ban these countries?) have started a system that they somehow get/buy an old losing Micro stakes account that is in the pool, they play 24/7 until they are being kicked out from the pool and then they somehow get a new fish account and so goes the loop on and on and on.
During these 3-4 Days they are winning sick amounts and its really disgusting to se what is going on. The worst part though is that party support (doh?) isnt doing anything about this behaviour. So much do they care about their poker ecology! I have reported this problem many, many times but as expected. They do **** about it!
Two examples of cheaters. First of all we have our old Romanian friend WKD3 aka beg4mercy_. He is now fishing in the fish pool jumping from new account to new account. Since he has been b/e his hole Life this must feel like christmas for him. I found him playing on "IdoGrannies" and "tripo11". I have certainly missed some nick names he has played cause there are many cheaters out there.
Next one is a pretty good aggro hungarian player. Started to see him as "MerloSpace". Then he jumped to "kommendante" -> "str4berry" -> "N01deayo" -> and atm he is playing "IIIlllIll".
Feel free to look up these nick names at PTR and I promise you guys will also be disgusted. I have as already mentioned reported these players several times to support. Feels kinda hopeless!
During these 3-4 Days they are winning sick amounts and its really disgusting to se what is going on. The worst part though is that party support (doh?) isnt doing anything about this behaviour. So much do they care about their poker ecology! I have reported this problem many, many times but as expected. They do **** about it!
Two examples of cheaters. First of all we have our old Romanian friend WKD3 aka beg4mercy_. He is now fishing in the fish pool jumping from new account to new account. Since he has been b/e his hole Life this must feel like christmas for him. I found him playing on "IdoGrannies" and "tripo11". I have certainly missed some nick names he has played cause there are many cheaters out there.
Next one is a pretty good aggro hungarian player. Started to see him as "MerloSpace". Then he jumped to "kommendante" -> "str4berry" -> "N01deayo" -> and atm he is playing "IIIlllIll".
Feel free to look up these nick names at PTR and I promise you guys will also be disgusted. I have as already mentioned reported these players several times to support. Feels kinda hopeless!
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I am sure that Jeffrey or Chris (Party Rep) will come here and help with the issue 
I mean the way they "helped" us in the past.
At least we now that when Jeffrey promises sth he promises
I mean dunno who you are but we all know that Party doesn't care about cheaters,scumbags,bots,colluders (add anything to the list). Probably most of long term posters here at some point tried to e-mail the support/ was reporting ceater/bots/colluders and suprise ,suprise Party never cared.
I mean it is sick but it is Party Poker and they don't care so why would you waste your time fighting for a case you can't win?? I mean it isn't like bwin.party has any integrity whatsoever. It isn't P*/FTP, it isn't even 888.
Reporting the segrgation cheaters to Party is like reporting bots to Ipoker. Go watch some TV show,whatever if you do want to waste your time.
I mean the way they "helped" us in the past.At least we now that when Jeffrey promises sth he promises
I mean dunno who you are but we all know that Party doesn't care about cheaters,scumbags,bots,colluders (add anything to the list). Probably most of long term posters here at some point tried to e-mail the support/ was reporting ceater/bots/colluders and suprise ,suprise Party never cared.
I mean it is sick but it is Party Poker and they don't care so why would you waste your time fighting for a case you can't win?? I mean it isn't like bwin.party has any integrity whatsoever. It isn't P*/FTP, it isn't even 888.
Reporting the segrgation cheaters to Party is like reporting bots to Ipoker. Go watch some TV show,whatever if you do want to waste your time.
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Yes I mentioned this in this thread a long time back, people seriously should email party about this, it is very sickening. Imagine a table with 5 of the worst biggest fish you can see on party all on the same table with 1 normal player, its crazy. And somehow there are always good Romanians that are playing there, whatever there trick is it's worth it because these guys are pulling in the easiest possible money, 10x easier than when online poker was in the USA.
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http://www.pokertableratings.com/par...ions/H0neyM00N
new account of this hungarian scumbag who hasp played in the segregated pool day for the last 6 months or so. Probably gets new accounts all the time. Before ptr didn´t track the segreagted pool but now they do. The amount of money theese guys win because of this is huge. And Partypoker just let them do it, it´s sick.
Party says they´re doing an investigation but is it really that hard just to remove him? It´s pretty easy to see on the playingstyle that this guy isn´t a recreational player
new account of this hungarian scumbag who hasp played in the segregated pool day for the last 6 months or so. Probably gets new accounts all the time. Before ptr didn´t track the segreagted pool but now they do. The amount of money theese guys win because of this is huge. And Partypoker just let them do it, it´s sick.
Party says they´re doing an investigation but is it really that hard just to remove him? It´s pretty easy to see on the playingstyle that this guy isn´t a recreational player
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Yup this stuff has been going on forever, I am extremely displeased, and really losing any form of trust I had in this site.
https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...id=13367280442
Look at this hand lol guy opens UTG for 500 then calls off 3500 with JQo. The things that are going on in this site is absolutely ridiculous. How can any player who is playing in the "regular pool" trust a site seeing things like this happen. For all we know all these Romanian or Hungarian accounts that keep raking up all this cash could be Party poker accounts.
Not to mention the segregation was a secret and was unraveled through the cooperation of many players. For all we know they would continued to attempt hiding this fact until they were caught. Really makes it even more seem like these accounts are Party poker owned accounts. Maybe they found a much more profitable revenue stream now.
http://www.pokertableratings.com/par...arch/rider9876
another guy abusing system or "Party account". 20k in 3 days. seems easy enough doesn't it?
https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...id=13367280442
Look at this hand lol guy opens UTG for 500 then calls off 3500 with JQo. The things that are going on in this site is absolutely ridiculous. How can any player who is playing in the "regular pool" trust a site seeing things like this happen. For all we know all these Romanian or Hungarian accounts that keep raking up all this cash could be Party poker accounts.
Not to mention the segregation was a secret and was unraveled through the cooperation of many players. For all we know they would continued to attempt hiding this fact until they were caught. Really makes it even more seem like these accounts are Party poker owned accounts. Maybe they found a much more profitable revenue stream now.
http://www.pokertableratings.com/par...arch/rider9876
another guy abusing system or "Party account". 20k in 3 days. seems easy enough doesn't it?
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I have been such a proud supporter of Party Poker for the longest time. I've always said the Party brand was the absolute best, their customer service (In my opinion at least) used to be exceptionally good. I never felt inclined to play elsewhere, even though the software has always been like 20th century.
Now I feel ashamed to still have money on this site, and am desperately questioning whether there is any point to leave $ here. How can a company **** it up this bad? How are you going to regain the trust of people like us, or do customers like me simply have no value to your company? I don't know. Why don't you give me an answer? Or I guess you don't have to. You never have lately.
Now I feel ashamed to still have money on this site, and am desperately questioning whether there is any point to leave $ here. How can a company **** it up this bad? How are you going to regain the trust of people like us, or do customers like me simply have no value to your company? I don't know. Why don't you give me an answer? Or I guess you don't have to. You never have lately.
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Lol scroll this thread and look at the level of help/support bwin.party is offering us.
To prove the point current Head of Poker Jeffrey Haas made like 2 months ago posts when he promised changs for better, better communication (LOL),etc. they lured some players to play there again.
You see it is with them all the time like that they make some sneaky changes where they screw us badly (suprise,suprise) and the list goes on and on.
When they promise changes for better, well they promise cause that are just words. The promises are to trick some poor ******s to deposit and play there again, they never act on what they promised.
Lets be honest we, who still play there,act like paid hookers cause we get ****ed over and over again.
To prove the point current Head of Poker Jeffrey Haas made like 2 months ago posts when he promised changs for better, better communication (LOL),etc. they lured some players to play there again.
You see it is with them all the time like that they make some sneaky changes where they screw us badly (suprise,suprise) and the list goes on and on.
When they promise changes for better, well they promise cause that are just words. The promises are to trick some poor ******s to deposit and play there again, they never act on what they promised.
Lets be honest we, who still play there,act like paid hookers cause we get ****ed over and over again.
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the more I think about it the sicker this whole thing is. I mean ok if you create this segregated pool to let some recreational players have more fun while playing. But is it really that hard to just watch the tables a while.
If you see a guy playing like a typical reg and just hoovering up money maybe you should kick him out of the pool. But no they let them sit there a week at least.
So now regs that´s been losing can get alot of their losses back because of this. Oh and some romanians and hungarians who just gets new accounts all the time. Wow the Party guys that is handling this must be some of the dumbest jokes in the poker industry
If you see a guy playing like a typical reg and just hoovering up money maybe you should kick him out of the pool. But no they let them sit there a week at least.
So now regs that´s been losing can get alot of their losses back because of this. Oh and some romanians and hungarians who just gets new accounts all the time. Wow the Party guys that is handling this must be some of the dumbest jokes in the poker industry
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hey jeff, partyrep, are u guys involved in all of this? cause it really doesnt make much sense anymore, if u werent^^ why would u not put a stop to this?
words can't describe how disgusted pokerplayers feel, when they get to know of something like this. you know, even the fish that u care about so so much at party.
YOU created this opportunity to cheat unsuspecting players. players, that trusted the integrity of your business, when they sat down at one of your segregated tables.
hey stars, cant you just buy them too pls?
words can't describe how disgusted pokerplayers feel, when they get to know of something like this. you know, even the fish that u care about so so much at party.
YOU created this opportunity to cheat unsuspecting players. players, that trusted the integrity of your business, when they sat down at one of your segregated tables.
hey stars, cant you just buy them too pls?
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sick of watching guys sit at 1k/600/400 and get massive droolers that donate thousands whilst I never see them and stuck grinding vs regs in lowlimits...plus the bonus'...now that they have ****d those up for every1 I have no idea what to get...Alot of regs rely on those bonus' to stay on party poker! Going to lose like 30% of player party you dingbats
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This situation with the Romanians and Hungarians has been going on for a long time, since the start of segregation. I have no clue how they do it. Maybe they make new accounts, maybe party lets them in there for some reason or they know someone inside party or maybe they found a way to open those tables. I bet party software is so messed that if you find out the names of the segregated tables you can trigger a software to give the client a command to open that table. Someone that is good with this software design can you tell if that is possible? I haven't played on party hardly at all for a 6-8 months, but this situation is so sick. Demand answers to some important questions.
like
1) What are they doing about this abuse of segregated tables
2) Where do the funds go that are confiscated
3) Why did Jeffrey Haas say he/and party rep were going to be active on the forums and then ignore all the most important questions.
3) etc etc.
I won't dictate the questions but I think we should put together a small list of the most important questions that players want. Maybe it might finally get some dialog flowing.
like
1) What are they doing about this abuse of segregated tables
2) Where do the funds go that are confiscated
3) Why did Jeffrey Haas say he/and party rep were going to be active on the forums and then ignore all the most important questions.
3) etc etc.
I won't dictate the questions but I think we should put together a small list of the most important questions that players want. Maybe it might finally get some dialog flowing.
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Party's software has always been buggy and laggy, but it has become unplayable for me since the first update of the horrible "new" software. Since bwin.party does not want players like me who raked > $25,000/year, I finally downloaded Bodog and for the first time in years, I have no lag! 
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btw I mentioned the unstoppable MA ring with unlimited accounts before.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=121
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=121
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WKD33 -> tripo11 is now playing with nick name "grizzly13"
His romanian friend, former known as "niculae_m" is now play with a Moldavia (???) account with nick name "StefanthaSaint".
Wonder how these guys get their new accounts? Are they doing some sort of promotion on eastern europe poker sites and buying old/unused accounts or what?
His romanian friend, former known as "niculae_m" is now play with a Moldavia (???) account with nick name "StefanthaSaint".
Wonder how these guys get their new accounts? Are they doing some sort of promotion on eastern europe poker sites and buying old/unused accounts or what?
10-25-2013
, 03:35 PM
I've received three infractions from Mike Haven for posting in the official party thread so maybe he'll be so kind as to fix the date lol.
10-25-2013
, 03:42 PM
You received a PM for the first. Nothing for the second. The third post received an infraction as the polite "warnings" were ignored.
10-25-2013
, 03:49 PM
10-25-2013
, 04:10 PM
10-25-2013
, 05:38 PM
I would be on-board to join in your protest, however that might be a challenge as I am limited to the web browser version and I think Party recently broke the Java version check. (or maybe they for some reason increased the Java version requirements -- can't imagine WHY though, since they have not changed [and probably never will change] that Instant Play version's code
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10-25-2013
, 07:15 PM
In all seriousness though, even if we get 15-20 people at a minimum it does make an impact. And when those people sitout at the table they can explain to others playing why and they can also join. This was done once before and it worked fine, what is the alternative? Party doesn't seem to do anything and players continue to post about it and complain about it. At least this way some stance is taken. Please just try and spread the word.
10-25-2013
, 11:49 PM
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Mishanjka, the point is not to stop the segregated tables from going, it is to raise awareness to party as clearly there is some communication barriers between departments etc.
And lessu I know what you're saying, but I don't think it will make a huge difference. From what I remember around 14:00CET is the busiest point of the day, or the start to it, and by 7CET the tables are pretty dead. Have things changed since then? Either way, I think if the tables are all clogged on monday and they are losing x-amount of money it will raise there awareness...
And lessu I know what you're saying, but I don't think it will make a huge difference. From what I remember around 14:00CET is the busiest point of the day, or the start to it, and by 7CET the tables are pretty dead. Have things changed since then? Either way, I think if the tables are all clogged on monday and they are losing x-amount of money it will raise there awareness...
peak time seems to be around 11pm CET
doing this for couple of hours starting 7-9PM CET on a friday or saturday would draw the biggest crowd, imo
10-26-2013
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