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Old 10-17-2011, 08:45 AM   #201
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

i was thinking that it would be safe to move my action to party. oh well, going somewhere else...
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:02 AM   #202
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

i rarely play on party poker, mostly on stars, after reading this i thought to my self im going to close my party account and lets see what they say when i say the reason why.

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This is to inform you that your account has now been closed. It means that you will not be able to login and will not be able to play on our site.


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please close my account



after reading this i have no intention of ever playing on your site



is this how party poker ignores customers



http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...8/index12.html
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:30 AM   #203
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

"but the reports made to our security team are being taken seriously"

not really though.

not as seriously as other online poker sites would take them.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:32 AM   #204
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What in the fk...

Dude runs hot for 800 games and people assume he's a superuser...

lolsamplesize

Srsly maybe i'm just overestimating the skill level of some of the regs commenting in this thread?
Or maybe you are an idiot who should read the thread before pushing the reply button.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:33 AM   #205
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Hi i┤m new here and i would like to start with cheating ehh poker i mean. What would you guys recommend? So far it looks like Party is good for freerolling and Ipoker for Botting - any other suggestions. I guess i can make more money this way than playing honest anyways...

I honestly cant belive they havent shut him down already...
check out ftp to learn how to run things if you ever decide to start a site.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:36 AM   #206
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LOLOLOLOL nice partypoker.

i feel bad for the players that still play there, high rake+BS rake system+cheating+BS connection+BS software+BS traffic and so on
they should rename to BSpoker.com and hire farafon as a "pro-teamBSpoker"
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:48 AM   #207
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^^ lol'd
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:49 AM   #208
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What in the fk...

Dude runs hot for 800 games and people assume he's a superuser...

lolsamplesize

Srsly maybe i'm just overestimating the skill level of some of the regs commenting in this thread?
Its amazing how little some people understand variance.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:11 PM   #209
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

Yeah, post #30 ITT pretty much smacked down any "rungood" theory about as conclusively as you could wish for.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:34 PM   #210
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

Well don't let everyone know about that, Gaz, this thread is outing idiots by the dozen.
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Old 10-17-2011, 05:44 PM   #211
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Every1 here needs to quit hatin'! This guy obviously got skill
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Old 10-17-2011, 05:49 PM   #212
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donk on a heater ldo
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:14 PM   #213
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"but the reports made to our security team are being taken seriously"

not really though.

not as seriously as other online poker sites would take them.
Party's problem is that they queue up all reports as if they all had equal value. They don't prioritise highly publicised reports like this one which can be a cause of player exodus to other rooms.

Imagine all the good publicity they would have got if they had given this report the highest priority and resolved it within hours.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:58 AM   #214
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

A couple of nights ago I had a dream where I could login to a poker site. My money was secure, and I could play a fair game against other like-minded people.

Then I woke up and read this thread.

FTP had their lobsters.
Cake has their LimitBOSS fiasco.
RPMShill pissed me off.
AP/UB... 'nuff said.

Eventually online poker will receive a blessing from the USA. Anticipating that day, I keep looking for a front runner to emerge from the pack, but whenever one seems to gain a little traction, they whack-a-mole themselves back into the box.

Party gets a collusion case handed to them on a silver platter, on top of a believable bot-like threat in another thread, and all they do is muster what sounds like 'I'm kinda busy right now, but I'll call you'.

At this point I don't know whether to dry heave or yawn.
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:26 AM   #215
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It is not our policy to comment on the details of such reports until investigations are concluded but the reports made to our security team are being taken seriously and we will post further comment on conclusion of our investigation.
Are you serious, all the evidence presented and the guy is still playing? isn't it standard practice on sites to suspend the account while being investigated? I highly doubt your taking this seriously and to think i would ever consider playing on your site if you open it to the usa!!!!
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:33 AM   #216
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

are they still playing???
if not, when did they stopped playing?
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:09 AM   #217
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Lol party, thank god I dont and never will play on your site.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:48 PM   #218
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

OMFG !!!!!
Just busted 2 chipdumpers at my game !!!
Unbelievable !!!
I play the $11 10max games on party.

The names are;
jenskaae
Sigjaeger

I don't have hands like with farafon like 2BB stack folds, but they were def chipdumping, one guy was minraising all the time and the other guy folded everytime. Both guys come from denmark. There was a third guy from denmark, but i have to do some more research if he was involved, because it was like he was also involved but he doesn't played the same games always. But i'm def 100% sure about these two i posted above.
This is what i found at pokerprolabs;





Just wooow, ***** PP i'm so pist right now. I just started at Party and already found colluders in my game.
I will find every fki ng damn colluder i play with and i want every fki ng buy in back, otherwise i'm done with this joke site.

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Old 10-18-2011, 01:21 PM   #219
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Ok just finished a live chat with PP and reported these 2 accounts. They will investigate this and they will keep me updated. I hope they don't make the same mistake twice. I'm sorry for my unprofessionalism, but i'm really pist right now, because i got so unlucky in my games today and found colluders in my game.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:59 PM   #220
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

Cheating, collusion, and chipdumping are as rampant as ever, probably even more so today than in the past. I think we, as poker players, have enabled it to a certain degree.

I.E., I use to spot the cheats easily and quite frequently when I only played a couple of games at a time, then I started mass-tabling, like a lot of other players, and lost the ability to spot the cheaters.

I think we, the poker players, have to slow down and play less tables, so that we can police our games because it is obvious that the poker sites are too inept to do it for us.

P.S. I have never recieved any buy-in back from a poker site. The only money I have ever recieved was if I finished in the money, the poker site would disqualify the colluders and bump up the other players.

I have been playing poker since 2002 and it is hard to believe that I have never been in the same game with cheaters, but I have never been reimbursed.

Seems like a sweet deal for the poker sites. The players do all the legwork in catching the cheaters,( saving the poker site from man hours) then the poker site swoops in, shuts down the account(s) and keeps most of the money in the account.

I am thoroughly disgusted.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:46 PM   #221
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Re: PartyPoker 839 turbo STTs, ROI : 66%. Must be nice.. (MN: cheating uncovered)

Hi,
Partypoker takes accusations of player cheating seriously. Where we suspect cheating or are made aware of potential cheating, we carry out detailed investigations. We cannot comment on individual cases for legal reasons, but where clear breaches are proven accounts ,are closed, with players given lifetime bans and balances confiscated. We consequently reimburse those players impacted their buy-ins and fees. Our players and game fairness are our priority.

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Old 10-19-2011, 12:46 PM   #222
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Cheating, collusion, and chipdumping are as rampant as ever, probably even more so today than in the past. I think we, as poker players, have enabled it to a certain degree.

I.E., I use to spot the cheats easily and quite frequently when I only played a couple of games at a time, then I started mass-tabling, like a lot of other players, and lost the ability to spot the cheaters.

I think we, the poker players, have to slow down and play less tables, so that we can police our games because it is obvious that the poker sites are too inept to do it for us.

P.S. I have never recieved any buy-in back from a poker site. The only money I have ever recieved was if I finished in the money, the poker site would disqualify the colluders and bump up the other players.

I have been playing poker since 2002 and it is hard to believe that I have never been in the same game with cheaters, but I have never been reimbursed.

Seems like a sweet deal for the poker sites. The players do all the legwork in catching the cheaters,( saving the poker site from man hours) then the poker site swoops in, shuts down the account(s) and keeps most of the money in the account.

I am thoroughly disgusted.
I've got a refund on Stars like 5 times without noticing the collusion myself...

Any updates btw?
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:10 PM   #223
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http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room...over-5-months/

Nice. Party's failure here is starting to hit poker news sites now.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:16 PM   #224
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Hi,
Partypoker takes accusations of player cheating seriously. Where we suspect cheating or are made aware of potential cheating, we carry out detailed investigations. We cannot comment on individual cases for legal reasons, but where clear breaches are proven accounts ,are closed, with players given lifetime bans and balances confiscated. We consequently reimburse those players impacted their buy-ins and fees. Our players and game fairness are our priority.

thanks,
Hi,

Without mincing words, I think you're lying but would love to be proven wrong. If you could not catch this individual without players informing you, I simply don't believe Party cares about game security. Even when you were informed of this player, who is about as blatant as you can get, it took you more than a week for Party to do anything whatsoever.

Can you please answer just three simple questions?

1. In the past 6 months, how many accounts of cheaters have been detected and closed?

2. How many of those accounts were detected proactively by Party Poker as opposed to being reported by players?

3. As a result of #1, how many players were reimbursed? For how much?

Thanks.

ED: Actually, here's a bonus 4th question. Was the player this thread is about previously reported to Party Poker?
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:27 PM   #225
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Hi,

Without mincing words, I think you're lying but would love to be proven wrong. If you could not catch this individual without players informing you, I simply don't believe Party cares about game security. Even when you were informed of this player, who is about as blatant as you can get, it took you more than a week for Party to do anything whatsoever.

Can you please answer just three simple questions?

1. In the past 6 months, how many accounts of cheaters have been detected and closed?

2. How many of those accounts were detected proactively by Party Poker as opposed to being reported by players?

3. As a result of #1, how many players were reimbursed? For how much?

Thanks.

ED: Actually, here's a bonus 4th question. Was the player this thread is about previously reported to Party Poker?
This +10000000

I feel that as an outside observer to this incident, some transparency needs to be shown by Party. Im not suggesting compromising any personal details of any players but by answering the above questions you would alleviate the suspicion of incompetence that most players have about Party at this point.
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