In before massive scandal.

Good work pocket_pear and IAMIRONMAN.

f u Party Poker for not picking this up and shutting it down weeks ago.

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Good stuff guys!

Love to see scammers outed! I'm surprised it wasn't caught sooner. I'm sure lots of people were taken in this scam and hopefully they all get their $ back.

another reason why stars is #1, they prob would've figured this out weeks ago themselves. Anyways good job the two people who gave evidence.

The chance they get there money back from the money farafon have made is def really small i would say, because he could prob cashout without a problem, he only cashed out from his main account "Farafon111" and made unreal new accounts and never withdrew from those because, first of all, all those accounts are losing ones because he chipsdump everything to Farafon and secondly you have to provide an ID scan everytime you withdraw the first time.
He prob also used a VPN to stay under the radar for having multiple accounts on the same IP.
I think this is exactly what happened, but i could be wrong about how he did it.
Unfortunately he made a nice proft from this and i hope PP can prevent things like this in the future.

If farafon was a really smart guy and blocked his stats to the world, mix with diff BI levels he could have been doing this for a long time, but most of the cheaters make mistakes, which clearly was the case here. I don't think this would have been going forever because chipdumping will always be noticed some day. I just had to watch a couple min of his play and i already saw multiple suspicious plays. I don't know how a site like pokerstars would have handled it, but i think PP clearly is not well protected to things like this. I mean how easy was it for him to make 15k+- without a problem.
I think a big part is luck that he could play for that long without being reported before, because chipdumping is really easy to spot. So don't try any of that yourself, he just got really lucky to play for that long.

And now i sound like this case is already closed and PP has given him a life ban. No, it could be he is playing at this very moment.

big up and ty!

Doesnt he need a new bank card to make a deposit every time? Because you need to make a deposit to get your 50$ free right? (sorry for being noob)
Else it's pretty strange that PP didnt see the suspicious in that one guy is depositing cash to like 100+ accounts with the same card...

Lol, just want te login on partyp and this came up;


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Is this just me ???

EDIT: Ok already see the official party thread i'm not the only one. One moment i thought they think i'm farafon111

Hmm good question.
I know you can't do player transfers if both the sender and the recipient have succesfully registered there account, which means the recipient must have deposited or completed his personal information. I don't know if this also includes providing an ID scan.
Also if you use something like moneybookers, you could make a new moneybookers account for every pokeraccount as long as the personal information is the same. For making and using a moneybookers account you don't have to deposit or provide ID documents. But you must provide documents if you want to cashout from your moneybookers and link your bankaccount. I know you can do transfers between moneybooker accounts, but i'm not sure if you can do a transfer if one of the two does not have made a deposit or withdraw or providing documents. I know you can do this at neteller, but the amount of money you can send is really small, unless you upgrade both accounts, which you will have to provide documents.
I know you can use something like paysafecard, i personally never used it, but i think this could be a possibility to get money in every account. But I really don't know much about this deposit method.

Maybe someone else have a better explanation about it, because i'm not the man to ask about it. I could be completely wrong about this part.

We will never know exactly how he did, but it seems he found a way to do it.

You can get prepay credit cards that have a 1 time use. He could always deposit with those, no? Heck, if Party are as slack as it looks like they've been, he could probably just transfer from his PP account to a new account. I'm not too sure he's all that concerned about the $50 bonus tbh.

Online poker seems to be just turning into one big joke.

It's basically inconceivable that Party could not have busted this guy if they were doing any checking whatsoever for cheating. The most blatantly obvious chip dumping from new accounts paired with an overall ROI about a billion standard deviations away from what is realistically possible. The obvious conclusion is that Party doesn't care about cheating in their games. While it's good the community gets rid of this cheater, he was an idiot. It makes you wonder how many cheaters there are that aren't doing the mind bogglingly stupid things it takes for other players to be able to bust them when the sites aren't doing their job.

Wow, this could've been caught by the slightest bit of oversight. A good cheat could definitely find ways to go undetected. I'd be pretty worried if I played on Party.

Isn't this kinda thing insta-flagged on Stars??

my goodness

Thanx but I have to be honest : the player who discovered this scandal is another french player who posted a topic on club poker, the "french 2+2". As he doesn't have a 2+2 account, I decided to create the thread here. For those who can speak/read french :
http://www.clubpoker.net/forum-poker...-du-jamais-vu/

so who is talking to party about this?

Please PP hire me so i can find those chipdumping bastards ! lol
No serious, as you can see on the pics... doesn't need much more information. Also look at the list of players, post #45
9 games of today. stopped after 9 games because all the sitngo's are the same.




If someone see him play again, please make some screens when you see him making suspicious chipdumping plays. The more evidence the better, for the case PP let him play again, which would be completely ******ed.

seems to play an awful lot with oaksdoro guy.

As far as im aware you can get $50 free on party if you open
an account through an affiliate e.g. Pokerstrategy.

He would never have to deposit any money to these multiple
accounts.

He could just open a new account thru the affiliate get his $50 free .
Dump chips to his Farafon account during an STT and then open another account straight away using different e-mail , etc.

Yes that would perfectly explain why he plays with 3 accounts in the same sng.
I think if he would play with 2 accounts his ROI wouldn't be that high. But with 3 it's more than normal to have a roi like that. I can't look in his first games, but i think he started with 2 and ended with 3 players in every game. That explains why his ROI now is higher than in the beginning.

confirmed and this needs more

question is how he did it with these new accounts $50 again and again. 800 games so he made probably more than 1000 accounts. thats at least $50.000. years ago i made an account with pokerstrategy and got the 50 bucks. If i remember right i had to send a scan of my ID.

Also does pokerstrategy pay these $50 or does the site he chooses pay the $50?

edit: ok it wasnt $50 buy in so he could use one account a few times. but still a lot of accounts.

This is a major reason why using sites like sharkscope should NOT be banned in a sites TOS agreement.

Has PP done anything, this is too obvious