has anyone ever played online poker here? no matter how good you are if accounts are not jacked up with the rng the way it is its impossible to run this good ESPECIALLY playing heads up with more * variance *

Why do sites even have rules in place if they are not enforced by themselves. So sick of feeling like a burden asking sites to look in to stuff. How many of these cheaters would get away with things if diligent players weren't looking in to things supposid * professionals* at there jobs can't find with supposid * advanced* technolgies. Just a lot of smokescreen and propaganda to try and make us feel safe. REGULATIONs! REGULATIONS! Please!! Honestly. Take the promotions money pokersites you give out to people that break rules , take ALL the promotional money and hire an adequate number of cheating detection systems. 99% of the players will welcome this. What do I give a **** if I win 100$ bonus money if a robot is going to steal it from me a week later.

Just imagine though how much cheating went on before some of you diligent players brought attention to this. It's like being a security guard in a BMW dealership. Only there is one guard and 50,0000 cameras to watch. Hire some more ****ing staff. Get off of coastal islands with 25 people for hire and move to populations where you can hire appropriate numbers to police this cheating god dammit!

Def agree these sites need to be a lot more professional when it comes to security

it's so obvious that the collusion ring is ran by the SECURITY department. How else do you explain the incompetence?

would seem like it huh? Only lets be honest at best how many people work in security at a time. 5, 6, 10. That might be an exaggeration. It's been said that stars got so busy an ex staff member said they actually had to turn off the alerts they are so overwhelmed. U got 80k-200 plus players at a time and god knows how many alerts you just cant cope its that simple. And even when they do find something or have evidence thrown up there arse like the chinese colluders it takes them months and months and still couldn't find them without the work of players and another datamining site. Just rubbish

the security department isnt smart enough to know how to collude

CLIFFS?

cannot be bothered reading whole thread, cliffs?

Party doesn't care at all about the integrity of its games, play there at your own risks.

rough cliffs:

- one account had impossible ROI
- was cheating by getting free $50 from pokerstrategy, dump to other accounts by colluding in 6max SNGs, repeat. party has zero security checks to notice or stop this
- confirmed as many accounts only played once or twice with him in the game, or played him HU, etc
- party support is even lazier than people that can't skim-read 280 posts and takes months to shut down his acct
- acct now shut down, party doesn't respond to criticism/process refunds

tyvm, wont be playing their than

2+2 wide cliffs:

-2+2 posters discover a cheating ring (or just 1 person multi-accounting) which is basically not to overseen if you take some looks at poker-datamining sites or work in security department of party.
-2+2 gives party info about the cheating, takes them more than two months to react.
-while we still wait for actions on party regarding this issue, threads on 2+2 pop up about blocked accounts, preventing withdrawals etc. on party with no proof of illegal behaviour by the victims. party accuses known mid- to high stakes player of actions they didn't do, while they can't catch real cheaters.


Do you know that graph from the AP scandal, where one ROI was in the top right and 99% of the others were spread about the middle of the picture? Where can we get that pic with farafon's ROI?

theres a ss on page 1

but that's only a graph of his winnings over time, I want a pic where his actual ROI is shown in comparison to other players ROI at comparable stakes.

ROIs are around 5%, he's at 60%

just went trough thread, so ****ing unbelievable that one of the largest sites can be so slow with some basic stuff. If there weren't for players i doubt that they would notice him anytime soon. Was thinking about leaving party anyways, due to ton of stuff, but this is something that can't be tolerated.

gg party

Your nick and avatar don't really suggest you have any problem with cheating.

that Anderlecht match was a ****ing cheat few years ago.
Crash and burn

Wow...Party Poker sucks.

I am still trying to figure his advantage

3 players (all 1 guy) in SNG 3($50+$5) - $165 entry

winner gets $200 ($195), 2nd gets $100 ($95)


2 players of group getting bonuses - first deposit - pokerstrategy ...
- not sure how the bonuses worked, so much play, matching, free?
so could get 3 entrys down to ??? $100 ???

win 1st/2nd - $290
1st $195
2nd $95


group playing together and chip dumping/pushing oponents out of pot

it looked like some of the 'ring' lost early - doubled up one of their partners?


so took a 6man and turned it into almost a HU with $100 entry into nothing, $100, $200, $300????


no wonder the ROI on the ringleader could do so well

I don't mean to sound rude, but I seriously didn't understand a word of that.

^^^ this