WTF... PartyPoker, seriously, W T F???

Well this is disturbing, OP should work for Party IMO.

On top of the blow I wonder why you let players change their alias?
That makes it harder for other players to catch cheaters. And yes, I do believe the the players catch 95% of the cheaters. Party themselves probably only get the most obvious cases, if even that...

Since it is very unlikely that Partypoker suddenly becomes good at catching cheaters (only PokerStars is ok but even them are not as good as the players also helping), please remove the possibility to change screen names.

Lifetime ban lmao i bet this guy is right back up on your site right now!! How can you say that lifetime bans are nothing don't you know there's ways around that give me a break!! Why don't you let him keep playing and take his money and disperse it to all players!!

+111

LOL at PartyRep responses.

Your site takes cheating seriously?

Like how?

That guy chipdumped and colluded so blatantly that it should trigger all the alarms and precaution measures if you had any.

What a joke site

This is frightening.
I've heard of Party freezing an account (in order to "investigate") when someone tries to cash out a large amount after a big win. But one would think that all poker sites had some sort of software that detects accounts that have winrates that are simply way too high to be "fair", automatically flagging them for investigation before the cheats try to cash out.
It should not be for members of 2+2 to spot colluders/cheaters. The site should spot (and stop!) them to limit the number of victims. Be pro-active, not re-active (or worse, apathetic).

In this particular case, it's quite breathtaking that PartyPoker apparently did NOTHING to stop this guy continuing to defraud other players.
Let's get to the point: By not stopping the cheating, Party Poker is complicit in the defrauding of its customers.

Sites that don't get pro-active in stopping the cheaters will lose customers. 2+2 can highlight possible cases of collusion/cheating. It can also organize boycotts. How much bad publicity can a site take?
Put me on the list of poker players who will never deposit on Party Poker just because of this one thread. How many more threads like this are Party Poker willing to tolerate?
Does it have to be moved to NVG with a thread title like "Party Poker allows cheats to prosper. Join the Party Poker boycott today!"?

Party_Rep, you ought to have no legal concerns about addressing the following question:

If Party Poker take cheating so seriously, why did such a flagrant act of cheating go undetected for months, with Party doing nothing until 5 days after numerous members of 2+2 made it so obvious ITT that this cheating was occurring?

Surely if you took cheating so seriously this "in plain sight" example of outright collusion would have been routinely detected and promptly stopped weeks or even months ago?

Please, unless you can actually give a serious response to any of the question posed to you in this thread, then just quit with the platitudes and stop causing further damage to your company's already fragile reputation.

Very well said, +1

Was it your buy-in? Or was it in cases where you finished in the money or on the bubble and if you take the two colluders out then you would be bumped up into the money.

What I was saying was that I know for a fact that I have played in SNG's with colluders and personally alerted the poker site, and the only time I received money was when I finished ITM or near the bubble. Never a buy-in.

Sorry for the derail, but since we all believe(know) that the poker players catch most of the cheating/collusion, there should be some type of reward for the players that do what the poker sites claim they do, protect the integrity of the game. A free entry into one of their guaranteed tourney's on Sunday would be a genuine gesture for doing their job.

Good idea.
Perhaps all the rake that party has profited from. Partypoker does not deserve this rake/profit when they are not keeping the games safe.
The cheater himself raked like 1600$.
But it was 6max SNG. So 6*1600$ = 9600$
Then remove rakeback payed out which should leave about 7500$, which they can give as a token of gratutude to the person who catched these cheaters.
If it wasn't for him, the cheating would still go on...

Hi!
I wrote this to Party

What can you say about player Farafon111.
He playes Turbo SNG 55. He has roi 66. Is he a cheater?
And I am concerning to play real money tables because of this.
I can not be sure that I am playing not against the cheaters.


They answered

Thank you for contacting Customer Service.
I'd like to inform you that we can not discuss other players' accounts with 3rd parties. I can assure you however that we do not favour any player and no one can take unfair advantage.
Our entire system sits behind one of the most advance firewalls in the world and we work with the best security advisers in the world to constantly upgrade the systems to protect your data and ours.
As you can see, there is no manual intervention in any process, which would create a possibility for foul play; nor would there be an intention to from people who realize the value of integrity and trust. Let me assure you that we would leave no stone unturned in our efforts to promote a clean and fair atmosphere for some exciting play.
In case you have further questions, we will be more than happy to assist you. We are available 24/7 by e-mail, live chat and phone.
Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site.

Best regards,
Nikola

Aggggh so tilting!!!

Hey Party, how does the above quote have ANYTHING to do with the question at hand?

Who gives a **** about how secure your firewall is when we're not concerned about people hacking into your system? We're concerned about a complacent, apathetic security team and a seemingly site-wide policy of not actively policing your games.

Good for you that you value your OWN security so highly. Now how about applying some of that zeal to, you know, making sure blatant colluders can't get away with their **** for months at a time?

Seriously, that non-sequitur of a response is nothing but deflection, and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the issue at hand.

JFC you guys suck so hard.

Oh, and P.S,

Liar.

A+ thread.

I write some content for a major affiliate site, and will be sure to mention this poor handling of SNG collusion in a PartyPoker room review.


This is also great to see.

Can anyone actually confirm that Party does in fact have a security department?

They dont need one, they have an awesome firewall

lol excellent response

Seriously doubt will get any more detail from them but according to sharkscope he hasn't played since the 16th so it seems at least the monkeys have banned him.

Bobpreflop did you get any $$$ back?

lol no didn't get a refunds. Actually I didn't even recieve an answer to my email I send 6 days ago. Probably because I explicitly asked them to not give me a standard reply because that always tilts me.

The soul example is awesome. This thread would actually be sort of funny if I didn't have a zillion partypoints to clear.

There is no way I will ever play there again after this. Let's face it - there were few enough reasons to play there in the first place.

I also have not heard anything from them after reporting him and informing them about two games I have played with him.

I assume you guys will get compensated because this case is so high profile, but it's standard for party not to reimburse players after eventually "catching" colluders.

Well, I actually won one of them beating Farafon111 heads up. So dont know how much compensation Im entitled to:-)

he could have just changed his screen name and forget about all this mess. I guess the guys that keep playing there will find out in a couple of months.

yeah pretty much this. Apparently party rep is also one of the people that just grunched and didnt read the thread, cuz if he had he would have realized how ******ed his copy/paste post was.