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Old 09-05-2012, 11:48 AM   #121
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

I was very enthusiastic with this thread in the beginning outing these bumfiddlingperverthunters, but now, its apparent that Partypoker does not give a **** about it, expecially when the party reps com in here and say 'great guys, please continue posting screenshots), fact is they want you/us/the players to do there work....
I suggest leaving this toilet of a site and going elsewhere where they actually DO CARE.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:02 AM   #122
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

we cant do their job. We cant warn players, remove vip statuses and so on.

The only thing we can do is reporting. Ive been trying to explain (in the chat) to these scums why is it so bad. But they r ignoring me.

The most brutal thing i saw: few days ago 1 fish clearly realize what is going on and he started to do the following:
1) Went to sit out - 3 regs went to sit out too
2) He sits in before 2 hands before BB - 3 regs sits in back
3)When came his BB he sit out again - 3 regs ofc sit out too

He was doing it like 3 times and then post a "smile" in the chat and left the table.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:29 PM   #123
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

Here is a transcript of my chat with party support earlier today.

TL;DR: According to this representative, there is nothing wrong with purposely sitting out at a player's tables waiting for a fish to join. But then he says that is only his opinion, and then he refuses to tell me Party Poker's actual stance on the issue.

Party_Rep, maybe you can tell me what Party Poker's policy is?


PARTYPOOP: would like to report donkeylinezzz
PARTYPOOP: he sits out on people's tables waiting for a fish to join
PARTYPOOP: tables edinburgh and cheju currently
Slav: One moment, please

(5+ minutes pass by)

PARTYPOOP: he is sitting in on edinburgh now because a fish joined
PARTYPOOP: but he is still sitting out on cheju you will notice
PARTYPOOP: he knows there are no consequences
PARTYPOOP:
Slav: I can't see him sitting out on the tables you just said
PARTYPOOP: well cheju just closed because of him sitting out
PARTYPOOP: i had the table open and saw it
PARTYPOOP: and like i stated he sat in on edinburgh once a fish sat down
Slav: Well if he sat in when somebody joined your table it doesn't mean that he blocks your table from players sitting on it
PARTYPOOP: he was at the table and just sitting out
Slav: Is it a heads-up table?
PARTYPOOP: no
PARTYPOOP: it is a 6max
PARTYPOOP: another pro was sitting in
PARTYPOOP: and donkeylinezzz was just sitting out
Slav: What exactly are you reporting him for?
PARTYPOOP: do you understand what this would lead to you if you condone this activity?
PARTYPOOP: everyone would just sit at a table and sit out
PARTYPOOP: are you saying i am allowed to do this?
PARTYPOOP: right now donkeylinezzz has an advantage of getting in good games
PARTYPOOP: because he just sits out at tables and waits for them to start
PARTYPOOP: it's in my best interest to do that too
PARTYPOOP: but i try to be fair
PARTYPOOP: most players try to be fair
PARTYPOOP: do you understand?
Slav: Thank you for bring this up
Slav: We will look into it
PARTYPOOP: do you understand?
Slav: To be honest with you I don't
Slav: As long as he doesn't block other people from sitting in your table
Slav: He might not be a heads-up player, not everybody is
PARTYPOOP: i was not at this table
PARTYPOOP: it is hard to join in a game
PARTYPOOP: there are so many players waiting for a bad player to play and join in right away
PARTYPOOP: especially when some of them have their seating scripts
PARTYPOOP: so by sitting at a table and sitting out donkeylinezzz has an advantage of easily getting into the game when it starts
PARTYPOOP: it would be in everyone's best interests to do what donkeylinezzz did
PARTYPOOP: but if everyone starts doing that, imagine what would happen
PARTYPOOP: it would be 5 players sitting out on every table
PARTYPOOP: maybe even 6 players sitting out
PARTYPOOP: it ruins the games
PARTYPOOP: that's why no one does it
Slav: This will be considered as an abuse
PARTYPOOP: what will be considered as an abuse?
Slav: But if there is a heads-up game on a 6-max table and a player is sitting out, this is probably why he doesn't want to play heads-up?
Slav: 5 players sitting out in a 6-max table
PARTYPOOP: yes but when 1 guy can sit out why can't a 3rd guy sit out also then?
PARTYPOOP: maybe the 3rd guy only likes to play 4 handed or more he might say
PARTYPOOP: it's a very slippery slope you are creating here...
PARTYPOOP: and it won't be good
Slav: what you are trying to imply is
PARTYPOOP: it needs to be punished
Slav: that we have to remove the sitout option
Slav: what if he went to the toilets?
Slav: should we punish him for being a human?
PARTYPOOP: you need to punish people who purposely sit at tables and just sit out
PARTYPOOP: that is abusing it
Slav: I understand your point
PARTYPOOP: i am not saying to get rid of the sitout option in general
PARTYPOOP: just to punish people who sit at tables just to sitout on them
PARTYPOOP: you dont think everyone wants to play in games that arent headsup vs another pro?
Slav: Everyone does Simple table select
PARTYPOOP: why cant donkeylinezzz just join in the game once it starts like the rest of the players?
PARTYPOOP: do you understand?
Slav: I do, PARTYPOOP. But like I said... If he doesn't want to play you heads-up when he joins a 6-max table, I don't see how this is an abuse
Slav: Maybe he's just not a HU player, that's all
Slav: Not everyone likes the HU action
PARTYPOOP: then why sit at the table?!
Slav: To expect other players to join in and start a game
Slav: If you're trying to be fair I believe you need to try to also be tolerant
PARTYPOOP: so imagine if everyone started to do that
Slav: We keep a constant eye on our tables and this is not going to happen
PARTYPOOP: everyone wants to join in and start a game when there's a bad player there
PARTYPOOP: I am going to post this conversation on the forums and see what other players think about this'
PARTYPOOP: because you are 100 wrong
PARTYPOOP: 100%
PARTYPOOP: and i hope your view isnt the policy of the whole site
Slav: My view is my view
Slav: There's nothing to do with the site
PARTYPOOP: you represent the site, do you not?
Slav: I do
PARTYPOOP: so...
Slav: But you asked for my opinion, so I gave it to you
Slav: And told you that from the site perspective
Slav: We're going to look into it
Slav: And see if there's actually something wrong about it
PARTYPOOP: i dont care about your opinion, no offense
PARTYPOOP: i want to know the site's opinion
Slav: Why ask for it in the first place?
PARTYPOOP: i want to know that the site doesn't allow it
Slav: We allow people to sitout, we don't allow people to abuse
PARTYPOOP: because if the site allows this behavior...
PARTYPOOP: i am telling you that sitting out at tables waiting for players is abuse
PARTYPOOP: can you tell me party's stance on this
Slav: Like I said, from the site perspective we are going to look into it and our security team will take the appropriate measures if any are needed
Slav: But once asking for one's opinion and it doesn't go along with yours, it's neither fair nor tolerant to act arrogantly upon it
Slav: No offence
PARTYPOOP: i didn't want your opinion
PARTYPOOP: what I WANT is party's stance on this issue
PARTYPOOP: can you give me that?
Slav: I didn't find any issues in the first place
PARTYPOOP: do you guys not have an official stance on this issue?
Slav: You told me there is something that I couldn't find
Slav: If you encounter it again please let us know so we can look into it
PARTYPOOP: the issue of sitting out at tables purposefully regardless of number of players
Slav: We will assist you, just need proofs of it
PARTYPOOP: i would like to know the stance on that
PARTYPOOP: not yours
PARTYPOOP: party's
Slav: Sure. We first need to make sure there is any
Slav: I couldn't find it from the information you gave me, so I'm not really sure I can give you any solid answer about it
PARTYPOOP: IF the situation arose
Slav: In case you encounter it again just let us know
Slav: We will help you
PARTYPOOP: what is party's stance?
Slav: If it does, please let us know
Slav: We will look into it
PARTYPOOP: you are not helping me
Slav: I will, once you give me solid information about the issue happening
PARTYPOOP: i am giving you a hypothetical issue now
PARTYPOOP: and you are not telling me party's stance
PARTYPOOP: i would like to know
Slav: I cannot tell you the company's opinion on a hypothetically happening issue
PARTYPOOP: you do not have rules?
PARTYPOOP: you do not have set rules?
Slav: You accepted them upon your account creation, you should be well aware of them
PARTYPOOP: as should you
Slav: In case you have real information about the issue occuring
PARTYPOOP: I have a question
Slav: Please let us know, we will take the appropriate measures


TL;DR: According to this representative, there is nothing wrong with purposely sitting out at a player's tables waiting for a fish to join. But then he says that is only his opinion, and then he refuses to tell me Party Poker's actual stance on the issue.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:45 AM   #124
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

a bit for today:

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Old 09-07-2012, 04:55 AM   #125
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

why u need all these conversations , software update and etc.. ? bul****

Party_rep im talking to you: the simplest decision is to hire 1 student for 1k usd per month and let him monitoring all reported players. Thats all. He will be able easily to see(in 1hr max) what is doing reported player. If he is wrong or not. Thats all
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:31 PM   #126
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

fish got busted, but not leaves the table, and these 3 scums insta(!!!) went to sit out. Names are: iIlIl bfmk , San1tr0n_PS , smashesfrom3 . Two of them were reported by me in may(!!).



What can u say about this Party_rep ? How long it will continue ??
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:54 AM   #127
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

for today: Rec player went to sit out Fkvfpdjctvm and ConchaPeluda INSTA went to sit out too.

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Old 09-16-2012, 09:58 PM   #128
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

thank you for party for helping this situation. Traffic is slowly increasing again and the games are getting more enjoyable for all. There are still a few players that are sitting out and I hope you keep being proactive in controlling this along with any seat scripting. In the benefit of the site if you continue to keep the games flowing ethically players will have more fun and traffic will increase. I hope if you haven't already by this point, hire someone to just watch the games continuously and take the necessary measurements so players that are sitting out are dealt with, and seat scripters and bots have there accounts checked. All in all, I see a positive direction after many months and months of a deteriorating poker environment.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:35 AM   #129
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

todays:



scums names are: aurelianus, Suvorovo, PickUpTheSoap
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:20 PM   #130
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

btw i cant remember how many times aurelianus has been reported...
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:36 AM   #131
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

I posted screens as well, but with your screens u have to take care, because some players might just sitting out at the others tables too or going to sit out all! tables for a small break.
besides for me it happens sometimes, when im having too many tables or even playing hu at other tables to keep the game running, that i'm, not able to play more 2-3 hu games, because fish is on sit out (he broked or something). but i will sit out and leave after 30 seconds even with the fish at the table or sit out all tables. in this situation u can also catch me with a screen. also most of the time if im sitting in, nobody will play me anyway. and if this guy is a shortstacker, i will most of the time refuse to play, because its not poker at all.

but i can tell u and the party rep, that im really tempted to sit out too, because i dont want to start games anymore for these scums. especially shortstacker and seating script users.
because this situation hasnt changed and its really depressing. so tell me, why i should be the only fair guy left on this site?
especially if u read the last chat with the support!

THATS WHY WE NEED THIS: ONE TABLE SIT OUT = SIT OUT ALL TABLES.
so we already have the sit out all tables on next big blind button in the software, just make it impossible to sit out just one table.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:38 PM   #132
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

Today:



EVERY FKN DAY, i post here and and add new nicknames. Party_rep : if u r not so bad - u could at lease make 1 post here....

PickUpTheSoap did best of the best: he joined the table and went to sit out too when saw that fish in the sit out.... Its just amazing.... Ofcourse fish left the table in a few minutes.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:41 PM   #133
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Re: PARTY POKER: Document sit-out scum here

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I posted screens as well, but with your screens u have to take care, because some players might just sitting out at the others tables too or going to sit out all! tables for a small break.
besides for me it happens sometimes, when im having too many tables or even playing hu at other tables to keep the game running, that i'm, not able to play more 2-3 hu games, because fish is on sit out (he broked or something). but i will sit out and leave after 30 seconds even with the fish at the table or sit out all tables. in this situation u can also catch me with a screen. also most of the time if im sitting in, nobody will play me anyway. and if this guy is a shortstacker, i will most of the time refuse to play, because its not poker at all.

but i can tell u and the party rep, that im really tempted to sit out too, because i dont want to start games anymore for these scums. especially shortstacker and seating script users.
because this situation hasnt changed and its really depressing. so tell me, why i should be the only fair guy left on this site?
especially if u read the last chat with the support!

THATS WHY WE NEED THIS: ONE TABLE SIT OUT = SIT OUT ALL TABLES.
so we already have the sit out all tables on next big blind button in the software, just make it impossible to sit out just one table.
im playing 10 tables and clearly see who is playing at 1 table and sit out at other. I never report player who is sitting out at all tables. Im reporting exclusively only scums
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:45 PM   #134
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THATS WHY WE NEED THIS: ONE TABLE SIT OUT = SIT OUT ALL TABLES.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:56 PM   #135
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im playing 10 tables and clearly see who is playing at 1 table and sit out at other. I never report player who is sitting out at all tables. Im reporting exclusively only scums

nope u are wrong, coz u got me too. thats why i was writing and im definitely no sit out scumbag. maybe u got me, because i was playing at the other tables till i would get the big blind to make a break.

but sit out all tables would fix these problems! i would appreciate it.
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