Originally Posted by AEPpoker
Hmm... i seem to remember someone warning everyone about this a while back
I was well aware of it then too, but there was only a couple/few high volume traders at that time and we all knew about it. Things have changed obviously so I thought it would be nice to let the n00bs know. In fact, I feel compelled to now because there's n00bs using the method and would qualify as high volume traders. If we don't warn them, something may happen and then we'll have to ban it because it could happen to others (I think you guys get that point by now :P) So, my warning is to simply 3keep the option available for myself, even though I've been responsibly using the method for years now. I have to worry about others getting it stripped away.
There was no reason to cause panic back then imo. Also, this goes back to the over protectionist rules because of a few thing. Why even report what could
be a problem, when if you are responsible and smart about things it wont...so it can get taken away as an option because it could
happen if in the wrong hands? No thanks.
Also, you're right about the above, and that's why you'd be one of the people who doesn't need to be warned or worried about, because you think for yourself. Seriously, with all that's gone on and the landscape we find ourselves in, I'm a little pissed we can't use PayPal to send money to each other (like all sending of money in trades it has nothing to do with "illegal gambling" as PP and a poker site never touch)
PP is the best option to move funds in the US and IMO we can't use it because of the people who can't handle trading safely. Good times.
Originally Posted by MyMaseratiDoes185
This scares me. I've loaded more than 1000 in each of the last 2 months to my GD card as well. Sometimes 3-4 reloads per day. I make a lot of purchases with the card as well.
Did the person who had their account closed make a lot of purchases or just always withdraw cash? I could see them being suspicious of someone only withdrawing cash. Also, did they send him a check for the remaining balance or just keep the money?
Well now you know, and you may have just toed the line but not crossed it.
Purchases are not a problem, 1,000 dollars is not a problem, loading your card occasionally is not a problem. Loading your card an average of 3-4 times or more a week, for for a few weeks, from multiple moneypaks will be.
Spread them out. Load some onto paypal. Get other cards like AEPpoker mentioned above (there's a blue one at wallmart for example), trade for bank funds, trade for netspend, etc. Do not rely on one card to do all your trades, if you trade more than 2 or 3 times a week.
FWIW the reason GD uses is that they say they are not a money transfer service and the card is not designed for it. PayPal is a money transferring service, and thats why it sucks we cant use it.
FWIW this is the same with Western Union, even though they are a money transfer service. This is why sites set limits on amount and frequency, to protect those who don't think about that stuff and overuse/misuse it, to protect you from yourself (you'd be surprised how many people would deposit with WU everyday, even multiple times a day if they could)
WU can and will ban you if they find out you deposit or receive money from poker. They wont know 99% of the time unless you raise an automated flag. Flag's are raised by crossing defined limits.
Be smart guys.
The thing is, I don't mean to sound like a douche and honestly, the people who are, or will read this thread, are not the ones who are the problem. It's the ones who wont. The p2p thread makes you click a disclaimer every time you try to enter it and it then brings you to the front page of rules that are A MUST READ. Even with all that, and infractions and bans handed out for breaking rules...people still wont educate themselves and continue to break the rules that were defined for them specifically.
Trading itself is not a dangerous endeavor. I guess some would be shocked to know there are traders on this forum who have traded over a thousand times and never been scammed. The problem is, there are other people who have never traded and get scammed the first two times they try