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11-15-2011 , 03:09 PM
I posted twice in the giftcard forum but got emailed by someone different.

== This is a message from no chips at Two Plus Two Poker Forums
(teemmcqueen@live.com)

I have made severaltrades with a guy at d0nkdown with a member there. If you want his name email me and i will give you his info.


== Then from tom mckay (teemmcqueen@live.com)

muffin bluffin at donkdown..com ive done several trades wit him


"""""

If I don't hear from the giftcard traders I posted, can I be sure to be safe here - trade smaller?
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11-15-2011 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by doktahDY

If I don't hear from the giftcard traders I posted, can I be sure to be safe here - trade smaller?
don't trade!

Trading off-site (e-mail, AIM skype contacts) without verifying 100% who you are dealing with has proven dangerous.

It looks like this is the same guy who scammed just yesterday, doing the same thing he is trying with you.

His "muffinbluffin66@hotmail.com promised Cake funds"

and

your " muffin bluffin at donkdown "

no chips (teemmcqueen@live.com) using e-mails to scam is banned


good help dok - be careful
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11-15-2011 , 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plainestman
This was resolved. I had 369tbags confirm balance on a table at cake as well as his identity through chat (as per suggestion from Mike Haven).

I am now shipping first and feel confident about doing so. Many thanks to Mike and others for help with this.
Pending trade with 369tbags his cake for my WF deposit. Yesterday after confirming his balance, I had funds deposited to him. I am still waiting on his cake xfer however. He has not been online since. I assume he may just be busy, but would like to document this on the forums.

The cake acct to which he sent: shakemybaby

369tbags' cake: 369tbags
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11-15-2011 , 05:44 PM
Oh no....

Can D.S./Rainbow Warrior/someone please take a look? I have zero time ATM and am not familiar with 369tbags but I'm concerned for a couple reasons, no offense should be meant to 369tbags whm again I have no clue of his history.
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11-15-2011 , 05:47 PM
God ****ing dammit. Plain, contact Cake security right now and tell them exactly what happened and ask them to investigate fast. Send "urgent" in the email's title.

Then create a follow up email with all the proof you have, PM's you had between the trader, etc.
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11-15-2011 , 05:49 PM
Only saying this based on the delay and the fact that this is the first post of his I saw, with a Mike Haven warning

Quote:
Originally Posted by 369tbags
Edit/MH: Note that this is the first post from this account in nearly two years. Ensure this is the original user if considering a trade.

*

I'd like to sell $3k of FTP. I'd like to get .75c/1$. Send me a pm for offers. I'd be looking to receive bankwire as I'm a U.S. player. All offers welcome. If anyone is interested in buying a lower amount let me know and we can work something out.
He's also not even marketplace approved. Just some general things that are concerning.

Mod's please remove these posts if needed. I have to go though, gl.

Last edited by Nofx Fan; 11-15-2011 at 06:18 PM. Reason: have to go, gl edit
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11-15-2011 , 06:26 PM
No, 369tbags has been banned elsewhere for being a multiaccounter and has had his Stars account closed. Should be considered incredibly shady and likely a scammer until proven otherwise.

Banned on Surfpoker, banned on Stakeashark. Stakeshark report: FlipThatChip, multiple stars accounts aka 369 TBAGS, FlipThatChip.

Total tracked play for 369tbags on Cake? 1 STT two years ago.


Also, very much this
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nofx Fan
God ****ing dammit. Plain, contact Cake security right now and tell them exactly what happened and ask them to investigate fast. Send "urgent" in the email's title.

Then create a follow up email with all the proof you have, PM's you had between the trader, etc.

Last edited by D.S.; 11-15-2011 at 06:47 PM.
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11-15-2011 , 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plainestman
Pending trade with 369tbags his cake for my WF deposit. Yesterday after confirming his balance, I had funds deposited to him. I am still waiting on his cake xfer however. He has not been online since. I assume he may just be busy, but would like to document this on the forums.

The cake acct to which he sent: shakemybaby

369tbags' cake: 369tbags
plainestman,

I misunderstood this at first glance but what you need to do is contact Well's Fargo and get that transfer frozen and or reversed. CONTACT THEM ASAP, DO NOT WAIT. You may have to go through their fraud dept but be assertive and don't take no for an answer, tell them you were a victim of an internet fraud. gogogogo

edit: If he is able, Moderator D.S. above will guide you. Contact him if needed after contacting Wells Fargo

Last edited by Nofx Fan; 11-15-2011 at 06:47 PM. Reason: D.S., iirc this one's for 5k..
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11-15-2011 , 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nofx Fan
plainestman,

I misunderstood this at first glance but what you need to do is contact Well's Fargo and get that transfer frozen and or reversed. CONTACT THEM ASAP, DO NOT WAIT. You may have to go through their fraud dept but be assertive and don't take no for an answer, tell them you were a victim of an internet fraud. gogogogo

edit: If he is able, Moderator D.S. above will guide you. Contact him if needed after contacting Wells Fargo
It was a personal bank deposit done by my friend. There was no bank transfer. He only put $675 in his bank acct, not the entire amount. He was then to send 900 to a friend's cake acct (SHAKEMYBABY). Then we would do the same thing the next day for the other 900. I am not sure there is any way to reverse a bank deposit and I am not sure that I have been scammed. His balance was confirmed on the table prior to my mate's deposit.

I am not yet at liberty to post the name on the bank acct on 2p2. I will share it with a mod however to make sure that it matches the name on the 2p2 acct.

Last edited by plainestman; 11-15-2011 at 07:38 PM. Reason: needed specification
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11-15-2011 , 08:14 PM
Email I sent to cake:

Hi, I helped organized a trade w/ user, 369tbags, his $900 to my mate's cake (username: SHAKEMYBABY email: ****@*****.com) for my mate's $675 deposit to his bank. He gave me the name, ****. I confirmed that he had $1800 in his acct via a FL 6/12 6max table where he bought in for his $1800, I (plainestman) then sat out on table with him and through communicating via IM, had him type in player chat, "123", confirming that he was the same person to whom I was speaking via IM(was between 16:00 est and 20:00 est on Nov. 14 please note, no hands were played, this was merely a measure taken to confirm 369tbags' balance).

I then had my friend deposit $675 to 369tbags' Wells Fargo bank acct. 369tbags was then to send $900 to my friend(SHAKEMYBABY, *****@*****.com) as per the arrangement. Please look in history to confirm the activity on your FL 6/12 6max table. SHAKEMYBABY will contact you when he is available. He asked me to contact you first however. I have a brief log of our (mine and 369tbags') correspondence on twoplustwo pms, and also somewhat on the forums, which I will send upon request if it will help. I would appreciate it if you could lock his acct until he contacts me. I am not certain that he has scammed us yet, but I want to do all that I can to ensure he doesn't get away with it if he did. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.


Also please note, I had no personal stake in this transfer, I only helped facilitate it for my mate.

Thank you.

Best,

John
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11-15-2011 , 08:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plainestman
Email I sent to cake:

Hi, I helped organized a trade w/ user, 369tbags, his $900 to my mate's cake (username: SHAKEMYBABY email: ****@*****.com) for my mate's $675 deposit to his bank. He gave me the name, ****. I confirmed that he had $1800 in his acct via a FL 6/12 6max table where he bought in for his $1800, I (plainestman) then sat out on table with him and through communicating via IM, had him type in player chat, "123", confirming that he was the same person to whom I was speaking via IM(was between 16:00 est and 20:00 est on Nov. 14 please note, no hands were played, this was merely a measure taken to confirm 369tbags' balance).

I then had my friend deposit $675 to 369tbags' Wells Fargo bank acct. 369tbags was then to send $900 to my friend(SHAKEMYBABY, *****@*****.com) as per the arrangement. Please look in history to confirm the activity on your FL 6/12 6max table. SHAKEMYBABY will contact you when he is available. He asked me to contact you first however. I have a brief log of our (mine and 369tbags') correspondence on twoplustwo pms, and also somewhat on the forums, which I will send upon request if it will help. I would appreciate it if you could lock his acct until he contacts me. I am not certain that he has scammed us yet, but I want to do all that I can to ensure he doesn't get away with it if he did. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.


Also please note, I had no personal stake in this transfer, I only helped facilitate it for my mate.

Thank you.

Best,

John
This pretty much sums up exactly what happened.
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11-15-2011 , 08:26 PM
GL Plainestman....

God this is like watching a car accident in slow motion......
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11-15-2011 , 08:37 PM
Quote:
Hello John,

Thank you for your email.We are waiting for replay from 369TBAGS to confirm this transfer.

Regards,

Arnold

Cake Poker Security Department
Received from Cake security. I assume this means that the funds have been requested to be xfer'd but cake requires a confirmation from 369tbags prior to sending the funds. 369tbags has yet to confirm the xfer w/ cake security
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11-15-2011 , 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doktahDY
I posted twice in the giftcard forum but got emailed by someone different.

== This is a message from no chips at Two Plus Two Poker Forums
(teemmcqueen@live.com)

I have made severaltrades with a guy at d0nkdown with a member there. If you want his name email me and i will give you his info.


== Then from tom mckay (teemmcqueen@live.com)

muffin bluffin at donkdown..com ive done several trades wit him


"""""

If I don't hear from the giftcard traders I posted, can I be sure to be safe here - trade smaller?
No, do not trade with this (these) guys. I don't have time right now but seem to remember those names being scammers.

Search these name's guys, even if only google.
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11-15-2011 , 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plainestman
Email I sent to cake:

Hi, I helped organized a trade w/ user, 369tbags...
Do you have any other info on him; name, address, phone number, etc?

If so, no need to post it, just let us know if you do.
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11-16-2011 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Clamper13
Do you have any other info on him; name, address, phone number, etc?

If so, no need to post it, just let us know if you do.
I have his alleged name and bank acct number. I imagine this would be sufficient in an attempt to track him down, assuming the name and ba # are his.
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11-16-2011 , 01:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plainestman
I have his alleged name and bank acct number. I imagine this would be sufficient in an attempt to track him down, assuming the name and ba # are his.
If you would like, PM his name to me. No account number needed.

I'll see what I can find.

Just curious, when the deposit was made, did the bank ask for a name?

Last edited by Clamper13; 11-16-2011 at 01:41 AM.
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11-16-2011 , 01:49 AM
If the funds aren't received tomorrow, I will send you his name. I just asked my friend who deposited the money if they asked for a name and am awaiting a response.
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11-16-2011 , 02:09 AM
Can someone please post or PM me the details of Merge (carbon to be exact) transfer timetables. Is there a certain point in the evening that if a transfer is done after, it doesn't get processed until the next morning? Anyone know? I've seen some carbon transfers take less than an hour, and sometimes it takes a full day? Anyone know the details? Of course they aren't posting details on their website, so if anyone has concrete specifics I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
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11-16-2011 , 05:53 AM
This is the old scammer trick of trying to impersonate/be similar to an established Marketplace user.

Quote:
Originally Posted by doktahDY
I posted twice in the giftcard forum but got emailed by someone different.

== This is a message from no chips at Two Plus Two Poker Forums
(teemmcqueen@live.com)

I have made severaltrades with a guy at d0nkdown with a member there. If you want his name email me and i will give you his info.


== Then from tom mckay (teemmcqueen@live.com)

muffin bluffin at donkdown..com ive done several trades wit him


"""""

If I don't hear from the giftcard traders I posted, can I be sure to be safe here - trade smaller?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tariq06
you got the wrong guy, i just got back in town, somebody scam you, i dont do instant message, only trade thru marketplace and only once thru my email teemcqueen2008@live.com, send over all emails to mods to get this situated..mods please look into this and please close this thread, i will start another one on friday..
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11-16-2011 , 02:23 PM
My friend received $900 from 369tbags at cake yesterday. This matter has been successfully resolved. TY to the mods and everyone else for their help.
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11-17-2011 , 10:31 AM
Obv getting 2500 off Lock every 8 weeks isn't a reasonable solution so I decided that I'm going to bite the bullet and sell some Lock funds via the person to person transfer.

I've never done this before, and I'm wondering if someone could help me out by explaining the most common transfer methods and what I would have to do set these up so I can receive payment.

Thanks!
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11-17-2011 , 12:55 PM
Lot of people trade for amazon gift cards. green dot moneypacks, and netspend transfers. Here's a link on how gdmp and netspend work.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...tspend-984233/

can always go route of bank transfers, cash deposit in your bank account or moneygram.

Be prepared to pay vig, be prepared to be sending first if you have no previous trades, do your homework on the other trader to make sure he's reputable, and there is a thread for these questions so might get better mod responses here.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...6/index29.html

and another link with a bunch of trading tips to keep yourself safe.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=13
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11-17-2011 , 01:49 PM
Find reputable people to trade with, there are plenty of people who regularly trade and buy funds online. If they have low post count, have them ship first...or ship in increments. And yes, you will pay vig...usually you will only get 85% or so of what you are giving them online..so 2500*.85=2125.
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11-17-2011 , 06:29 PM
Thanks for the info Jumpman!

I'm assuming that Greendot is a reputable company? Just feel weird about entering my social security number on the internet.

Also I'm assuming that once I order a card I then have access to some kind of an online acct so that I can manage transactions and load the card with the transferred funds? And is it really as simple as entering the code-and then the funds are transferred instantly-ie I will know that the transfer is good right away?

Thanks for all your help!
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