But still some commission. They have value, just less than depositing players.

Players will get the same amount of points as they currently do.

Winning players are not a source of revenue for the sites, except where they help start a game and/or turn over money. This is why they have some value, but less than players that lose and deposit more.

From what I've read, I'm almost certain that this is incorrect. Everything else in your posts seem to hit the nail on the head though.

this, winning players will receive less point, fishes more

https://help.bwin.com/General/FAQ/Po...er_points.aspx
# Lastly, each contributing player’s share of the Poker Points is calculated based on the relative strength relationship between the contributing players. Each player’s performance over the last 90 days of active cash game play is compared with that of the others and adjustments are made. Cash game hands that were played prior to the player’s last 90 days of play are not taken into account.

Yeah *** idk what you are trying to say when it is clear that this is not true

you can abuse this system, if you play more then 1 skin(make on you "winning" Skins 90 days vocation)

Can you explain further?

Is it possible that after 90 days your "status" as a winner/loser gets reset?

Can anyone give more details on the specifics of how this works?

Read this

The system only remembers the last 90 days where you actually played in Real Money cash games.

So, you cannot go on vacation for 90 days and come back with a reset status. But say that you win $100 on the first day. Then, once you have played RM cash games on 90 other different dates, your winnings from the first day will no longer affect the rake distribution. On the 92nd day you play cash games, the result from your 2nd day will be forgotten, etc.

i think you can lose on nl2 90 days 2 cents(pay one BB).. its vacations, and after this you are the fish, play you >nl100 limit

No, they wont. I think you misunderstand.
Ongame will use a 0 < multiplier < 1 for winning players generated rake.

If you've generated 5k rake /month until now, and you are winning player than from now you will generate only 20-30-40%.... of that rake.

Your affiliate will also get less revenue, you will get less contributed rake -> less point -> less rakeback/valueback.

Fish don't use the points with the same efficiency as the grinders do. They probably have stats that said groups use 50%/90% of the points (fish/regs, just random numbers), so every balancing they do in favour of the fish is immediate profit for the site.

Yeah, but you dont seem te get it either...

This is pretty spot on. Me thinks.

what happens with the rakeraces?

Isn't it true to say that winning players will be worse off than they have been?

And not by just a few percent.....

Betfair said in their Q&A that they would be carrying over their 6 max tables to OG. Might be a reason to stay with them when they move.