** Official ** PokerStars Check Problems Thread - Page 27 - Internet Poker

OK, I am getting a little worried. I also just switched from Wamu to Chase. My account is fine but I am wondering if I need to pull my money out ASAP.

My last deposit onto Stars was 5/28. I have never had any issues with my bank before, never overdrawn, etc...

I am wondering why the peoples who's accounts were frozen had that happen. Is it because they deposited after a certain date, etc...?

I have withdrawn some money, but small amounts, probably totaling $600 total over the last 6 months so I can't imagine that would throw up any kind of red flag. There has to be a reason why certain people are having problems and others are fine.

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06-08-2009 , 01:58 PM

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Mitch Evans

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Originally Posted by poloplaya1414

Isn't it also possible that PS/others froze the echeck system on purpose to stop people from panicking and pulling all their money due to the check issue?

No.

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06-08-2009 , 01:59 PM

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razorbacker

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Originally Posted by Onaflag

Here goes the drama. Like everyone else ITT I log onto my bank account a few minutes ago to find both checking accounts each have a ledger balance, but an available balance of exactly zero.

WAMU was recently taken over by CHASE and instead of having a heart attack I did the rational thing and called the number on the website thinking there may be a snafu and I needed new atm cards or something silly.

I was told that the US Treasury Dept has frozen my accounts with some kind of subpoena order. I was trying to get the exact wording, but my heartrate kept going up. The US Treasury Dept is now in control of my checking accounts and the word subpoena was used two or three times.

I'm your average joe with an average job. Never participated in anything shady my entire life. My e-check cashout from Pokerstars was submitted and approved Sunday May 31st.

What is going on?? This is worse, much worse than the NetTeller boggle and cannot even be compared to the 3 or so recent hiccups with e-checks.

I'm screwed. My rent check will not clear when it hits the bank today. The lady told me to get off of direct deposit with my employer immediately. Those funds, when they hit the bank this coming Friday will be frozen as well.

I am thoroughly disgusted to call myself an American.

Onaflag..........

wow

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06-08-2009 , 01:59 PM

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PDXracer

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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans

Did you use echecks or checks?

used eChecks to deposit and withdraw, but withdraws were never much larger than deposits, and other half of withdraws were via check (before eCheck was around)

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06-08-2009 , 02:01 PM

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Mitch Evans

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Originally Posted by PDXracer

used eChecks to deposit and withdraw, but withdraws were never much larger than deposits, and other half of withdraws were via check (before eCheck was around)

I'm just wondering if these accounts are being frozen based on electronic use with gaming sites.

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06-08-2009 , 02:04 PM

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mrcommonsense

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Onaflag what State are you in?

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06-08-2009 , 02:08 PM

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PDXracer

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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans

I'm just wondering if these accounts are being frozen based on electronic use with gaming sites.

Well the names of transactions dont list gaming sites.

My transactions have been so minimal I just dont understand why this would be a problem, which still leads me to believe that this is just WaMu problem. (my gut feeling)

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06-08-2009 , 02:09 PM

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Lathum

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The 2 posters who had their accounts frozen, were you both waiting for cashouts from Stars?

I really need to know if I should pull out money from those accounts. I'm not worried about the government, I am however worried about telling my wife.

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06-08-2009 , 02:09 PM

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Onaflag

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Originally Posted by mrcommonsense

Onaflag what State are you in?

California where poker is perfectly legal.

I also think this deserves its own thread, but not just yet. I cannot prove it is because of online poker. I'd feel bad creating a panic if it turns out to be a WAMU ----> CHASE conversion problem.

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06-08-2009 , 02:09 PM

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gambolian

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im surprised pokerstars hasn't credited your guys account yet, fulltilt gave me the money a day before my check bounced.

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06-08-2009 , 02:10 PM

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permafrost

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Originally Posted by Onaflag

I was told that the US Treasury Dept has frozen my accounts with some kind of subpoena order.

Would you please visit them and ask for more info about the subpoena, then let us know?

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06-08-2009 , 02:10 PM

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Lathum

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Originally Posted by PDXracer

did you get the same DoJ info the other guy got about your accounts and why they are frozen?

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06-08-2009 , 02:11 PM

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senjitsu

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Originally Posted by Onaflag

like i said in the other thread.. dept of treasury _sounds_ like a tax issue... without getting too personal are there any ongoing tax issues that you have or could have?

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06-08-2009 , 02:14 PM

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piranha

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Originally Posted by phils08

wtf i going on. both of you guys have payed taxes on online cashouts and everything?

Treasury department hold/freeze is very likely back taxes

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06-08-2009 , 02:14 PM

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Lathum

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Originally Posted by Onaflag

I went from WaMu to Chase with no such issues.

Did you withdraw or deposit?

if you deposited can you PM me the name of the processor on your bank statement so I can see if the same processor was used on my recent deposits.

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06-08-2009 , 02:17 PM

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phils08

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Originally Posted by senjitsu

like i said in the other thread.. dept of treasury _sounds_ like a tax issue... without getting too personal are there any ongoing tax issues that you have or could have?

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06-08-2009 , 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by piranha

Treasury department hold/freeze is very likely back taxes

no offense to the OP but i'm hoping this is the case. I'd be very disturbed if this were a regular poker dep/wd issue.

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06-08-2009 , 02:20 PM

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Onaflag

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Originally Posted by PDXracer

It is absolutely NOT a general WAMU problem. I just verified with another WAMU customer who does not play online poker that her account is fine.

lol to those saying it is tax related. It is not. If you have a legit job, which I do (local government) they attack your paychecks. The IRS attacks aggressively and leaves you with just barely enough to live on, but you can talk to them and make payment arrangements if need be.

This is NOT a tax problem.

Now I believe a thread is needed to warn others who may not be following this one.

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06-08-2009 , 02:21 PM

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PDXracer

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Originally Posted by Lathum

did you get the same DoJ info the other guy got about your accounts and why they are frozen?

Nothing yet .. going to bank right now (bank said i could withdraw, and I was able to move funds to/from all my WaMu accts online .. savings/checking/IRA)

The fact I have not seen anything from DoJ leads me to believe its a WaMu problem, but will sort it out here shortly. I am a lot less worried now than I was 30 minutes ago.

I do have a $215 cashout coming from eChecks into my WaMu acct, that I am still waiting for (cashed out last week at this time from PS). Only 1 out of 2 of my deposits through eChecks has cleared my account. (hoping its just waiting for my 2nd deposit to clear, before they issue me cashout)

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06-08-2009 , 02:23 PM

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Mitch Evans

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It could be any number of things from taxes, child support, alimony, etc., but with the second guy claiming his to be closed... hmmm.

Ona, any of these situations apply?

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06-08-2009 , 02:24 PM

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senjitsu

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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans

It could be any number of things from taxes, child support, alimony, etc., but with the second guy claiming his to be closed... hmmm.

Ona, any of these situations apply?

not child support or alimony they are state issues and wouldnt come from the treasry dept.

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06-08-2009 , 02:24 PM

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evilganz

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Originally Posted by Onaflag

Just a couple Qs--

Did you deposit using echecks recently? (I think you did, a week or two ago, if I remember your post right.)

Did you recently withdraw using echecks or a paper check?

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06-08-2009 , 02:24 PM

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phils08

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Originally Posted by Onaflag

I understand you pay taxes on your real job. Have you paid taxes on all of your poker winnings?

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06-08-2009 , 02:25 PM

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Onaflag

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Originally Posted by PDXracer

Nothing yet .. going to bank right now (bank said i could withdraw, and I was able to move funds to/from all my WaMu accts online .. savings/checking/IRA)

How on earth can you withdraw if the account is frozen? I don't get it.