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03-22-2013 , 07:37 AM
I'm losing my mind here and they don't even replay to me. I don't get it how can they treat me like that. Did anybody else had this kind of problem?
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03-22-2013 , 07:58 AM
They accused you of using illegal programs, don't think you'll find the answer in a graph. Which programs did you use?
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03-22-2013 , 08:03 AM
You seem Eastern European? And play like a trillion hands breakeven? Help is going to be a very rare commodity to you.
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03-22-2013 , 08:23 AM
So there is nor where to apply for investigation? I know that I have to proof that I'm not a cheater, but i don't know how to do it.

I used Holdem manaager and while before my last cash out I used turbo table scanner but it was just for like a two weeks. that's all.

So the thing that I play nearly breakeven makes my suspiscios? But isn't bots supose to play constantly on same level? And am for sure not a constantly on the same lavel.

There was a moment when I had 4k in my account it was my carrier peak but then I lost all and then started to play strictly by the bakrolmanagment. And if you look at my graphic you could see that I am wining a little bit till i start to tillt.

Of course you don't havve to believe me, but I didn't come here for that. I came here to find out the way in with I could proof THEM. So if you now what I can do please tell me.
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03-22-2013 , 08:36 AM
What bot or a cheater who does it just for a money would cash out just a 450$ all withdraws and deposits combined in five years?? It's not logical. Even in my country is not much

AND yes I am from eastern Europe, actually from Lithuania.
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03-22-2013 , 08:38 AM
I guess all I can do is to wait till they end the second investigation.
I will post where answer
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03-22-2013 , 11:14 AM
Does party poker ever respond to emails. 3 days no response as to why my account is frozen. This is incredulous: I have done nothing wrong, provided all info neccessary & still some bs like this happens. How anyone taken legal action against any online poker site because this is what I am about to do. I have done absolutely nothing wrong, got all my documentation verified yet after cashing out this happens & party poker doesnt respond.
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03-22-2013 , 11:19 AM
go to live chat. Or call them via phone.
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03-22-2013 , 12:41 PM
PartyRep, I really wish you could take the time to explain some of these cases where people are having there accounts blocked. It seems to be happening frequently and it is quite unsettling. If it is for good reasons, why not explain this? Some transparency for the things going on, will go a long way.
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03-22-2013 , 01:52 PM
I get the email from party poker that says: “you have used Artificial Intelligence program to automate your actions and make the best possible decisions whilst playing Poker at our site hence giving you and unfair advantage over your opponent”
I talked with live chat supporter and said the reasons way I am not a bot. And they started the second investigation of me.
So I think I am just opposite of bot. Yes I played 3x more last month compared with my regular month. About 80k hands I played last month. I talk only about last month because before they hadn’t have a problem with me. So the reasons why I am not a bot:
1. I wasn’t playing constantly on the same level. In the first session of the day my results was the best. . Even in the first hour or two I played much better then in third or fourth. Basicaly I had abou three sometimes four sessions per day. And after the last session I always blamed myself for playing. Because I always lost in my night session. And this session most of the time where longest. Because I always wonted to rebound my money. Offcorse I ended by losing even more money. It comes to a second reason- Bots do not tillt. And I was on a big tilt.
3. As I wasn’t confident playing 9 tables as I did that last month. A several times I folded AA preflop. Folded a KK on 229K board. Also a QQ set. If I would look into it I would found even more hands that I folded because I didn’t pressed the button on time. Ofcorse most of them, could be that all of them happened in my late night sessions.
4. My playing style also wasn’t robotic. I watching videos on pokerstrategy and I am trying to make moves that I saw at these videos. Except for my late night sessions, there I basically not thinked and tried to rebound my money.

I realy can’t understand what could led them to think that I am a bot.

After chat with party poker live chat support. Whey started another investigation on me. But it now passed about 20 hours and I haven’t heard anything from them

I don’t know how to measure my loses by hours, so I can’t give you the accurate numbers. If anybody know how to measure it I would love to hear.
P.S. I am using Holdem Manager

Please write what else is typical for bots that I could compare that to myself and send it to Party poker

Sorry for bringing my troubles to a forum, but I don't know what else to do.

I forget to mention that in that month I lost about 1400$ it is about 3k big blinds for me and moreover I end up without 0 countries dominate. it is sad because the reason I played more then usually was to collect some countries.

Thank you for your attention

Last edited by Troleibusas112; 03-22-2013 at 02:01 PM. Reason: forget to mention
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03-22-2013 , 02:12 PM
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PartyRep, I really wish you could take the time to explain some of these cases where people are having there accounts blocked. It seems to be happening frequently and it is quite unsettling. If it is for good reasons, why not explain this? Some transparency for the things going on, will go a long way.
+1.

From what i've seen I find it difficult to believe that some of these people are not being banned unfairly. I have no problems with genuine cheaters being banned however "It's better to let 100 criminals go free than to convict one innocent man."
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03-22-2013 , 05:43 PM
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PartyRep, I really wish you could take the time to explain some of these cases where people are having there accounts blocked. It seems to be happening frequently and it is quite unsettling.
because there is a software glitch that makes it impossible to run the account-module and the screenshooter-module at the same time.
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03-22-2013 , 08:14 PM
i encountered a glitch 2 days ago at a 22$ final table.
we were 3handed and the deal tab popped up, but during the deal I couldn't write in the chatbox and the other 2 guys could (i was chip leader). did you encounter a similar problem ?
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03-22-2013 , 08:25 PM
^ LOL.

Juk
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03-23-2013 , 09:13 AM
hi all, Just wonted to inform you that I was told that I will recieve a call from bot sepialist on monday. Still trying to find out more about bots. And I find some articles how to spot a bot:
Look for players on multiple tables at virtually all hours of the day. Some players set up their poker bots to play as many tables as possible, and leave them there for as long as possible--sometimes all day and night. If you notice a player at more than three tables seemingly all of the time, chances are it's a bot.
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Look for players who never respond to any interactions. While playing online poker, many players communicate through the chat box. Some of these communications are friendly; some are not. Players often join in at some point, especially if repeatedly asked if they are a poker bot.
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Look for players who play the same way all of the time. Poker bots are set up to play a specific way--agressively, loose and tight are among the styles of play. Most players--especially good players--change up their styles of play, making it harder for opponents to get a read on how they will play different hands. If you see a player over the course of time continue to play the exact same way, chances are it's a bot--or a poor player.
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Look for players who play several different limits or different games. It is easier for a poker bot to be programmed and play several different games at once--Texas Hold 'Em, Seven Card Stud, Omaha--than for most human players, who might find switching from game to game a bit taxing.
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Look for players who take the same amount of time between each decision. Most bots are programmed to make decisions quickly, or with a certain interlude of time between decisions. While catching on to how long a player takes between decisions is something that only advanced players may be able to do, it certainly can go a long way in helping to tell between a human and a bot.
. Poker bots aren’t likely to play any silly moves, which is why they generally make a steady profit throughout the day.
You can identify them because they will always perform certain moves, such as making the exact same position bets every time, whether they are in small blind, big blind or under the gun (to the right of the dealer).
Your move (or any other players move) on the same table will determine the bots next move. They will make standard raises when the time is right and if you make a weak raise, they will over-raise you just to buy the pot. Also, if you add too much to the pot (over-raise), they are likely to call or put you all in, especially if the bot has a semi decent hand.
Not all online poker players are very communicative, meaning that they have their chat settings switched off and bots will NEVER communicate with anyone. If you notice that they are pulling the same moves every time, perhaps that

And with all that I had just one common thing. It is long playing hours in more then three tables. Everything else is not common to me. I chat with other players then I am in the mood, I don't play any other game except Nl25. I make a lot of silly moves, a loose my mind then I lost by bad beat and start playing very emotional and end up loosing a lot of money.

By statistic it is 99,99% chance that you will be playing against real player. I wondering what is the statistic according to party poker.

I don't get it why they need to call me after I write them many many arguments why I am not a bot. I am worried because my english is very poor. One time I tried to talk with party poker by phone and it didn't went well. I couldn't spell my account name so he just wished me a good day . Can anybody know the site or a program there I could write a world and it spell it for me?

Thank you for attention, will inform you after a call.
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03-23-2013 , 03:33 PM
google translate will help you translate from your language to english
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03-23-2013 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CasperW
Have sort of a funny story.

Today is my birthday and I got an email from a VIP Host wishing me happy b-day. In the past, this b-day message has included a bonus. I replied back mentioning this. Got this reply:

"Yes, that is true, but we have changed our policies lately and currently we will be unable to add a special Birthday bonus to your account. I hope this will not be too disappointing for you."

I'm not ungrateful but I don't know why some VIP host I don't even know is wishing me happy bday without a gift.
I didnt get a bonus since beginning of 2012. I got the last in early 2011.
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03-23-2013 , 06:59 PM
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It's actually not sick if they also let you keep the money you win from the rogue account. The problem is that party.fr apparently stole money from the accounts of all players who won from a rogue account but didn't give back the money players lost to the account. Even if a player won $100 to the rogue in one hand then lost $100 the next hand (breaking even), party stole the $100 the player won but didn't give back the $100 he lost. So they are essentially making tons of money every time someone deposits with a stolen credit card.
Sick. Its like printing money for partypoker
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03-24-2013 , 12:04 AM
Terms and Conditions:

You are here to lose. If you want to win, you are not welcome, and may be punished for it.

Accept> Refuse>
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03-24-2013 , 02:37 AM
Impressive to see in an entire tournament ever to hit the river for the donkey.
All hands following were won by the same donkey, in the same tournament, in the river.
Now how am I to believe that only the loby is manipulated?
I laugh at those who thought that!


Spoiler:
PartyGaming - $5+$1|100/200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

LP: 3,420.00
CO: 5,420.00
BTN: 3,496.00
SB: 4,785.00
BB: 4,879.00
UTG: 10,634.00
UTG+1: 6,891.00
Hero (MP): 8,956.00
MP+1: 1,700.00

LP posts ante 20.00, CO posts ante 20.00, BTN posts ante 20.00, SB posts ante 20.00, BB posts ante 20.00, UTG posts ante 20.00, UTG+1 posts ante 20.00, Hero posts ante 20.00, MP+1 posts ante 20.00, SB posts SB 100.00, BB posts BB 200.00

Pre Flop: (480.00) Hero has 9 4

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 200.00, LP calls 200.00, CO calls 200.00, BTN calls 200.00, SB calls 100.00, BB checks

Flop: (1380.00, 6 players) T 2 2
SB checks, BB bets 200.00, fold, LP calls 200.00, CO calls 200.00, fold, fold

Turn: (1980.00, 3 players) 6
BB bets 400.00, LP calls 400.00, CO calls 400.00

River: (3180.00, 3 players) J
BB bets 400.00, LP calls 400.00, CO calls 400.00


BB shows J K (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (Pre 33%, Flop 16%, Turn 7%)
LP mucks A T (Two Pair, Tens and Twos) (Pre 60%, Flop 71%, Turn 85%)
CO mucks T K (Two Pair, Tens and Twos) (Pre 7%, Flop 13%, Turn 8%)
BB wins 4,380.00


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PartyGaming - $5+$1|30/60 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 2,620.00
BB: 3,421.00
UTG: 5,020.00
UTG+1: 3,000.00
MP: 2,542.00
MP+1: 2,830.00
LP: 11,116.00
Hero (CO): 5,980.00
BTN: 5,471.00

SB posts SB 30.00, BB posts BB 60.00

Pre Flop: (90.00) Hero has 5 3

fold, UTG+1 calls 60.00, fold, fold, LP calls 60.00, fold, BTN calls 60.00, SB calls 30.00, BB checks

Flop: (300.00, 5 players) Q 7 K
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets 120.00, LP raises to 540.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 420.00

Turn: (1380.00, 2 players) K
UTG+1 bets 180.00, LP raises to 1,920.00, UTG+1 raises to 2,400.00 and is all-in, LP calls 480.00

River: (6180.00, 2 players) 6


LP shows 7 7 (Full House, Sevens full of Kings) (Pre 65%, Flop 98%, Turn 84%)
UTG+1 shows K 6 (Full House, Kings full of Sixes) (Pre 35%, Flop 2%, Turn 16%)
UTG+1 wins 6,180.00


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PartyGaming - $5+$1|125/250 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: 4,855.00
UTG: 3,571.00
UTG+1: 7,000.00
MP: 15,391.00
MP+1: 14,435.00
LP: 9,729.00
CO: 5,086.00
Hero (BTN): 8,906.00
SB: 2,185.00

BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, UTG+1 posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, MP+1 posts ante 25.00, LP posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 125.00, BB posts BB 250.00

Pre Flop: (600.00) Hero has 9 8

fold, fold, MP calls 250.00, fold, fold, CO calls 250.00, Hero raises to 1,000.00, fold, fold, MP calls 750.00, CO calls 750.00

Flop: (3600.00, 3 players) 2 5 4
MP bets 1,000.00, fold, Hero calls 1,000.00

Turn: (5600.00, 2 players) 8
MP bets 1,500.00, Hero calls 1,500.00

River: (8600.00, 2 players) Q
MP bets 2,000.00, Hero calls 2,000.00

MP shows A Q (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 58%, Flop 47%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks 9 8 (One Pair, Eights) (Pre 42%, Flop 53%, Turn 84%)
MP wins 12,600.00


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PartyGaming - $5+$1|1250/2500 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 54,805.00
MP+1: 47,714.00
CO: 54,376.00
BTN: 114,334.00
Hero (SB): 48,471.00
BB: 150,695.00
UTG: 61,574.00
UTG+1: 47,031.00

MP posts ante 250.00, MP+1 posts ante 250.00, CO posts ante 250.00, BTN posts ante 250.00, Hero posts ante 250.00, BB posts ante 250.00, UTG posts ante 250.00, UTG+1 posts ante 250.00, Hero posts SB 1,250.00, BB posts BB 2,500.00

Pre Flop: (5750.00) Hero has 9 Q

fold, fold, MP calls 2,500.00, fold, fold, BTN calls 2,500.00, Hero calls 1,250.00, BB checks

Flop: (12000.00, 4 players) 2 6 6
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: (12000.00, 4 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets 7,500.00, MP calls 7,500.00, fold, fold

River: (27000.00, 2 players) K
BB bets 7,500.00, MP calls 7,500.00


BB shows 5 K (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (Pre 30%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)
MP mucks 7 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Sixes) (Pre 70%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
BB wins 42,000.00


Spoiler:
PartyGaming - $5+$1|2000/4000 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 31,355.00
BB: 99,264.00
UTG: 46,126.00
UTG+1: 133,484.00
Hero (MP): 37,721.00
MP+1: 76,940.00
CO: 68,948.00
BTN: 85,162.00

SB posts ante 400.00, BB posts ante 400.00, UTG posts ante 400.00, UTG+1 posts ante 400.00, Hero posts ante 400.00, MP+1 posts ante 400.00, CO posts ante 400.00, BTN posts ante 400.00, SB posts SB 2,000.00, BB posts BB 4,000.00

Pre Flop: (9200.00) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 37,321.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls 37,321.00, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (83842.00, 2 players) 7 9 2

Turn: (83842.00, 2 players) 9

River: (83842.00, 2 players) K


Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 62%, Flop 70%, Turn 86%)
MP+1 shows T K (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (Pre 38%, Flop 30%, Turn 14%)
MP+1 wins 83,842.00
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03-24-2013 , 02:57 AM
I just saw the donkey even be champion after paying an all-in with 50BB. He had JQs against KK and hit a straight on the river.
The "random" was already pre-disposed to give him 1st place at "balance of ecology."
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03-24-2013 , 04:20 AM
This thread is going downhill
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03-24-2013 , 04:44 AM
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This thread is going downhill
Moaning about a donk sucking out a few times in a $5 tourney is a bit thin I agree lol.
How to get it back on track?
Anyone heard anything on the grapevine about the duration or permanency of the segregation trial must be a start?
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03-24-2013 , 09:26 PM
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Moaning about a donk sucking out a few times in a $5 tourney is a bit thin I agree lol.
How to get it back on track?
Anyone heard anything on the grapevine about the duration or permanency of the segregation trial must be a start?
Well I was on tilt, but ...
The issue is more delicate.
First, there were some only a few times. There were more and always at a crucial moment to commit his fate in the tournament.

Second: It is one thing to be on tilt and think "it is certain that this guy will win the tournament with this deck in the robbery".
Another thing is to think that, and actually happen!
Another thing is to have the official confirmation of the manipulation of the lobby, thinking what I thought and what I thought happened!
What a coincidence!
Well, I may be wrong and actually have been coincidence. But taking into account the credibility of the room not to be unfair in judging ... gets harder to believe in coincidence.

The manipulation of the lobby without warning (needed to know what happened flagrant) has been an act of bad faith, not to say "dishonest" and "fraudulent".

The issue is that the room puts those thoughts in check "that chance, but this is the variance" and gives life to the cries of losers which we gave laugh: "this room is rigged".

Pitiful!

PS: Sorry for any mistakes in writing, because I do not speak in English and usaei the google translator.
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