that is helpful to know but I maintain two things towards my point:

1) that was never explained by Party so nobody has any clue. (hell none of this has been addressed or explained by Party)

2) Because you have to try and catch tables before they get hidden you need to spend more time lobby scanning and searching for new tables with recreational players which makes you less likely to continue to battle regs to keep a breaking game going. I spend probably 30% of my session energy yesterday searching for games. Normally I'd spend maybe 10%. That difference is me battling to keep games going or playing regs HU, or quitting games and watching for new tables to open. Those are hands I didn't play that Party didn't rake.

wait...wat ? thats probably the biggest bs ive read in a long while (and ive read a lot of party stuff before). Regs only played the BBJ because the fish wanted to play them and have the chance to bink big...

+10000000
if we had any clue how the system works we would be able to plan at least something. Cause for now based on what I heard losing accounts when they use the quick seat feature they are automatically seated at the fishy table and we don't know what % of the recreational players use it and what % use the lobby to jump to play the games.

So people are not willing to start the games HU reg vs reg cause we dont know if and when the recreational player will join. Everyone just scan the lobby hoping that fihs will join one of the tables.


BTW Party Rep. You should show some decency. If it is a test we should be informed for how long you plan to test it. Do you plan to leave it like it is now, tweak it, stop it/move back to the previous solution??

Stop treating us like some ****in guinea pigs!!! It is simply ******ed way to treat your customers. Firstly misinforming everyone hoping that no one will notice and now leaving us blind with no explenation whatsoever

Tony abandons ship



http://www.pokernews.com/news/2013/0...-com-14524.htm

^^^^ Probably opened his client and saw 150 25nl running tables and didn't like it.

Cashed out everything today. If they don't want my business I will give it to someone else.

Bye bye

As bad as 2012 was for bwin.party, what is even more alarming for them is that 2013 poker revenue has free-fallen another 13% vs. Q4 '12. See bwin.party's March 15, 2013 Results. The "tests" have failed horribly and will become much worse next quarter as former Palladium/Elite VIP members will ony be raking ~$1,500/quarter as Gold members to clear out their bonuses instead of $20,000+/quarter.

Any thoughts on issues with getting our money if Bwin/Party closes their poker business? I'm assuming there is a good chance we would get all of it eventually since they have other significant and profitable businesses and are apparently audidted as having all of the funds for players' accounts available?

Ironically I just received this email from Party:

Hello Xxxxx,

My name is Slav and along with my team of hosts am here to take care of you and your account.

I want to welcome you back to the Palladium lounge and wish you a great experience. You reached that level with your regular play recently and I am happy to deal with your account. There will be more special promotions for you to come so please stay tuned and review your Promotions section regularly.

My reply:

Dear Slav,
Thank you for your kind mail. I have come to understand that you are currently performing a "test" where you are trying to segregate players depending on their quality of play. Further you have reduced player benefits like eliminating paladium elite and the benefits of monthly promotions. Since you seem to not want my business I have decided to not play on Partypoker anymore. I have withdrawed all my funds and hope that I receive them asap. I didn't care to buy a bonus with my last vip points which is something I always did in the past. I will be ordering an Ipad instead.

Kind regards
Xxxxx

Party management really have no idea how to capitalize or do business in this market. It is no surprise at all that Tony G parts with them. Obviously their profits for the 1Q of 2013 are gonna decline, and 2Q is gonna be far worse. And this is with the anticipation that the merger will have synergy effects. Seems to me like due to poor management, traffic is going to end up being levels lower than pre-merger.

this site under the correct management and vision still has plenty of room to capture market share, but under current management, seems like you are just making Pokerstars' dream coming true of becoming a monopoly in the industry.

as for funds being available - I wouldn't worry about that. I really really doubt that a publicly traded company this large would be able to risk doing such a thing. Party has always been fairly good about those things - but for some reason I don't trust Bwin. Ever since the merger has been announced, constantly steps have been taken to reduce player incentives, to cut cut cut their costs. I feel like Bwin management is pushing for this.

I guess we just have to see what happens... but the good days of Party Poker just seem like they are coming to an end.

this was 6-7 years ago

They will probobly pay you unless you're a Russian a call someone down light. Then they will tell you you where chip dumping and take your money.

Yeah, pretty sad really Been playing at Party since early 2004 so not that far off 10 years now.

Juk

If you look at the financial report linked above then you'll see there is very little chance of this: it might be declining, but their gross profit was over €150M and 70% of the revenue is profit... They are still printing money from poker; just less than they used to.

Juk

Thanks Juk - I should have checked this first

I feel the same^^

just curious, can someone tell me if the mobile app shares the same player pool or is a distinct mobile pool?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9703

Good to hear if this hadn't happened online poker as we know it may have been in some trouble. If this had made them money other sites will have followed suit.

Honestly I'm not even sure if I'd go back when they reverse the changes because of the way they handled themselves. Not that I think they'd go busto but does anyone know if Party funds are segregated?

Haha,

Just got an email from Party to logon to win the "daily free gift" in my account from "The Daily Deal."

I logged in and found out I'm not eligible for any of the prizes b/c I'm a VIP instead of Bronze-Gold member.

I got that too. At first I thought they'd downgraded me to let me get access to the better promo, but it's obviously just more fail on their part

Got a reply from the mail I sent yesterday. Thought I'd post parts of it. nothing new really but posting it fyi anyway.


"As you might have already noticed we are continually looking for ways to balance our poker room ecology. We are testing various features to make poker a more fun and entertaining game for both new and inexperienced players.

Our extensive research shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges. These players are free to play on any table they chose."

Will the "fastforward-challenge" run in the upcoming weeks aswell?

Kinda makes me sick the way support get paid to copy and paste the same reply over and over.

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running bad on this site is now 100% worse cuz back of my mind i think its rigged.

coolers and more coolers against the few fish you can find! They always catch the gut shot, the flush or the open endended... seems like they always have trips when you have an over pair... soo sick...