If I thought it were till dec next year i'd insta leave ha!

Yeah, not only are these players boosting their post-RB ROI by ~2.5%, but even worse is that they can afford to call much wider than players without it and can effectively exclude others from the games in the process...

This.

How can they let him get away with it for another month is beyond me...

Juk

I thought it was only for those who had both Party and FTP at PS. Not 100% sure.

Is is exactly as you say. PStrategy is doing everything they can to get people to move to party/any other partner because their rakeback deal with FTP wont continue.

Just a few questions to Freddy and the rest of the "Haters".
In the last 18 months why didn't you mind that all your rake went to High Heads Up Players? Why didn't that bothered you while it happened month after month? Or didn't you noticed that top10 weekly leatherboards had always 5 to 8 Heads Up players?

The Coin Flips are here since August and nobody ever cared about them. I noticed they can be ev+ to play and turns into a scandal. Shame on me?

If you guys really think is so simple to win the leatherboards just by playing them, here is my challenge: Instead of complayning, do the same and enjoy the income. If you guys think I am making so much money, why don't you give it a try? It just took me 330 hours last month and I'm sure you all can do that easily.

See you in the Coin Flip tables.
Miguel Proença

Pretty sure the 'High Heads Up' players actually have to play poker to get their money.

What you're doing goes against fundamental morals and ethics hence people disliking you for doing it.

What sort of ridiculous system would allow you to top the leaderboards with ease without making a single preflop OR postflop decision??

I ask for a real SnG leaderboard in every monthly complain email.
Fwiw I'm more annoyed that DoN's count and are favoured then highstakes HU. And yes I did notice you and 2 other slightly losing DoN players getting that 200k ticket every week while the best sng players on this site who play the same limits and volume get nothing.

I'm not going into an argument about the leaderboards now and if you should get tlb points for coinflip sng's.

btw I'm not 'hating on you', I just want party to ****ing change it already.
You're pretty funny actually if your posts are not a level.

No.

Hi,

Having reviewed the feedback regarding our Coin Flip sit n go’s and the impact these are having on the sit n go leaderboards we have taken the decision to remove the $6 buy in tournaments. The $3 and $1 buy in tournaments will remain available.

We believe this decision is in the best interest of the wider sit n go community and we appreciate all of the feedback we have received on this subject.

Thanks

Party Poker

lol thx.

ohw, they only play 1$ coinflips ldo since you get more tlb points/$ rake.

Hilarious.

Seriously what on earth did you guys 'review'?

I bet no one of the top 5 of the leaderboard played a single 6$ coinflip last month.

Can't coinflip SNGs just be excluded from the leaderboards altogether?

It's unlikely any recreational players having fun playing these would get a LB prize anyway (or even notice/care if they didn't).

Juk

EDIT: I PMed PartyRep about this so hopefully he will see your reply.

If anybody posts on ps.de then maybe somebody could post in their thread about this too: http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...readid=1485423

Speaking of cheating Russians, have the tournament players noticed the continuing cheating of comrades Cocomangos and Camon_I_MSS? If you've ever had the misfortune of being stuck with them 3-handed or other short-handed table, then you know what tournament regs such as Mateyos, piepeterpie, Noth1nPers0nal, etc. have been complaining about. The two have a high number of tournaments where they are in the same table and I think they live in the same Russian city. Unfortunately, PartyPoker probably won't do anything about their collusion unless enough players complain. Beware of registering in a tournament that they are both playing until Party does something.

But they play 99% 1-3$ Coinflip HU's.
So kick them out too please. And a single HU leaderboard would be very nice and fair. HU players doesn't make more rake but get much more points because of the points calculation.

Remove them alltogether from the TLB.

We all pay the rake and that proenca69 and some other guys get over 100% rakeback for the 1Dollar Coinflips. Its not the first time procheater69 cheated his way to first place on the leaderboards.

Its just opening as many 1 Dollar Coinflip SnGs as you can to get first place in the Leaderboard.

On the leaderboard page u say something about skill and talent.
There is no skill or talent needed to have a script that opens coinflip SnGs all day long.

Yay! more things to watch out for...

ok, so i am 25 and 50 grinder on party and i play alot , like over 100 k hands/month

yesterday and today this thing happened to me : when playing i had some hands and at showdown i had other hands, happened 2 times

its unreal, dunno how to explain it, one of the hands is the hand below, vs some fish and a medium stack nit, like 16/14 or so , swear to god i had AK in this hand

maybe both times it happened when i was a bit tired but dunno if that tired to shove JJ there

i mean i played way more tired than this in ~2 mil hands i played on party and never had this happen

also hm2 shows the correct showdown, that i had JJ

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...cards-1257885/

Juk

guys if you're RB affiliate has not offered a similar bonus as PS and you're interested I'd consider contacting them or posting in here. I've contacted my affiliate and they say they've been trying to get Party to make this available to more players but it helps if players are more openly expressing their disappointment.

Sorry to say it, but I'd be much happier if Party kept (and enforced!) their no rakeback rule...

Juk

I don't want RB, I want the same reload bonus being offered to other players.

If you're argument is that you don't want anyone to have reload bonuses then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think offering bonuses is hurting game quality so significantly that it makes them -EV, but I obviously don't have numbers to support that position.

oh maybe you're implying that by "RB affiliate" I was suggesting that my affiliate pays actual rakeback at party. They don't. I always go with raketherake as I think they offer great deals and service and have been really helpful to me whenever I've had problems in the past.

They aren't doing any under-the-table stuff at Party as far as I know. I call them my RB affiliate because that is their primary role for the sites that pay actual RB.

I'm asking an above-board affiliate to be able to offer the same bonus that another affiliate is offering. I think that is fair.

I dunno what is worse. Party's absolutely rubbish software and laughable information policy or the fact that Proenca and others still are allowed to make a mockery out of the leaderboard.

People bitch about the Stars/FTP monopol but honestly the colossal managerial ineptitude displayed by PartyPoker over the last few years is staggering.

Just an FYI for those looking into this thread to get an idea of how Party support is: after replying to the rep's PM, I was told my issue was "escalated". Since then, no contact, my IP is still recognized as from the US, and I can't play. I withdrew all of my money and I don't have many good thoughts about Party, at all.

Somehow FullTilt got the same issue addressed in a couple of days, even with them being so busy from the relaunch. I guess that shows who cares about their customers.

So good FTP is back. Bye Bye Party

Party support is pretty bad ATM. Anyways, I had this issue about 2 years ago, and party couldn't fix it, but I managed to. For you or anyone else that has this problem in the future here is what you can do.

Change your mac address on your network card, just google how to do that. It is just a couple cmd line prompts, this forces your ISP to give you a new IP address... If you don't do that, it will keep the same IP address for x amount of time.

Hope that helps.