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05-08-2019 , 05:12 PM
I just noticed $66.69 in my Acr account but no email. Tourney donk here. Been playing only on True for the last two months so its not for new happenings
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05-08-2019 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
How do you guys know how much they refunded you?
Check your cashier for activity
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05-08-2019 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
I wouldn't worry too much about bots in PLO. They are available and do exist but to write the coding for one would take years because of the amount of different pre and post flop situations you can have in PLO. It would literally take at least a million lines of coding to write a winning PLO bot. As a matter of fact if you know about a confirmed bot at a table in PLO I would sit at every table they are playing.

I delved pretty deep in to the botting thing and got familiar with them and their code is literally written in IF THIS:THEN THAT.

Hold Em can be written in that matter within about 60,000 lines or less because the amount of situations are limited. You can just fold out of several of them so lines aren't needed to cover them all.
You just posted that to basically the expert bot guy in WPN PLO cash games. He's shown us over and over how much these bots are making, they are pulling fortunes out of WPN games of all types including PLO. This is basically "show your math" situation, cuz he has over and over.


You'd basically have to refute the info in this thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...9/index14.html
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05-08-2019 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
How do you guys know how much they refunded you?
Under Financial History in your My Account Details page, there would be a line that reads IDM Transfer: Special Refund.
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05-08-2019 , 05:37 PM
Just got this for my true poker account. Your TruePoker account with the username PungentCrotchSweat was involved in activity against one or more of these bots, so we’ve refunded your account with $17.2554.

Thought for a split second the . Was a comma and got excited. I really hope they round up the extra half cent
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05-08-2019 , 05:38 PM
I just now got an email saying I was credited $40. I haven’t played much vs these bots that I’m aware of, maybe 5-10k hands of cash 10 and 25nl, so I’m content with that.

Also got 11 on my acr account Ibe barely played on. Maybe 10k hands past couple years total.
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05-08-2019 , 05:43 PM
Thanks guys! Didn’t get a chance to log in yet but saw a refund email for $21. Better than $0 I guess
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05-08-2019 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
You just posted that to basically the expert bot guy in WPN PLO cash games. He's shown us over and over how much these bots are making, they are pulling fortunes out of WPN games of all types including PLO. This is basically "show your math" situation, cuz he has over and over.


You'd basically have to refute the info in this thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...9/index14.html
I was just saying I looked in to it very very thoroughly. I looked deep enough to the point I could code a bot. It isn't impossible to create a good won above micro level talented players. If someone or a network has coded winning Omaha bots then they are incredibly bright.

The code works exactly as I stated but simplified.

If dealt this hand take this action. If flop is this do this. Some have HUD access to make adjustments to the player type.

A lot of people believe they can do (PIO)server type computations and none of the bots I investigated could.

So if he has confirmed some PLO bots out there that are consistent winners then the people on the other side of that are very very talented in coding. The average out of the box with good adjustments wouldn't be a consistent winner from what I found regarding Omaha.

Last edited by Lozgod; 05-08-2019 at 06:09 PM.
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05-08-2019 , 05:47 PM
+$260 refunded today I see and many of those cash profiles I was tired of seeing on the tables banned. Hopefully this positive momentum will continue to build on here...
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05-08-2019 , 05:58 PM
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05-08-2019 , 06:00 PM
Holy ***! I got refunded $82.09! Great job ACR! Keep getting those scumbag bots.

Last edited by Lozgod; 05-08-2019 at 06:09 PM.
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05-08-2019 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
This is without fee. For example, if I want to deposit $500, WPN will quote me a certain BTC amount. But if go ahead and buy $500 (+fee) worth of bitcoins, it’s always less than what they need me to deposit to receive $500.

You can try this too on your own. Get a $500 BTC deposit quote from WPN and immediately look up conv rate on any USD/BTC exchange.
I think this is good because if you buy $500 and try to send $500, itll get stuck on the blockchain for a day or two if you dont have enough for the confirmation fees. You always want a little extra so you arent forced to cheap out on the fees.

That would be really bad if you got stuck and Bitcoin dropped 20%. I normally mess with BCH or Litecoin because of the cheap fees and the fastest confirmations.

As there really isnt a NASDAQ for cryptocurrency, pretty much every exchange has a diff price.
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05-08-2019 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
USA bot kick720 banned first American account I’ve seen

Tricky3s sonantgiigles ibetufoldt definitely cash players I’ve noticed.

Also frontman11
Tricky3s victim here. I'd been playing some 25nl a decent bit earlier this year and got owned in some big pots by that account. Got a $153 refund today and that name was the first thing that came to mind
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05-08-2019 , 06:22 PM
I just got a refund and the email said there were 30 bots banned.
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05-08-2019 , 06:54 PM
Anyone else get a refund email but when you checked your account there was no refund there?
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05-08-2019 , 06:55 PM
39 cent refund here! Ballin'
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05-08-2019 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MHunt479
Anyone else get a refund email but when you checked your account there was no refund there?
My refund was in there. Are the names of the bots listed anywhere?
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05-08-2019 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
My refund was in there. Are the names of the bots listed anywhere?


https://www.winningpokernetwork.com/banned-accounts/
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05-08-2019 , 07:16 PM
Got my $76 and change.
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05-08-2019 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
You see cross contamination of bots found and players affected. Bots were cheating bots.
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05-08-2019 , 07:36 PM
I find it hard to believe I didn't get a refund. I played 150k hands of cash on ACR in the last year. Either I was beating them so they wont refund or I played against no bots.
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05-08-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
Neato.

Props to Nagy/WPN on being transparent. I can even find my username and it's displayed how much i lost to them.
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05-08-2019 , 07:47 PM
Make the weak players happy + Pump the economy = WPN win
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05-08-2019 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
Make the weak players happy + Pump the economy = WPN win
Someone must of not got a refund.
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05-08-2019 , 08:05 PM
Just briefly looking at the 2 token microstakes PLO bots banned, a huge amount of the refunded money went going to other bots. Also it makes no sense to refund only players that net lost vs a bot, this doesn't account for EV stolen. Total amount refunded should be proportional to percentage of hands vpipped out of total hands bot vpipped or something similar regardless of how much was won or lost. I'm grateful for these lists as I can lookup some of these accounts that I didn't have in my database and find more "retired" bots
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