Official 2010 Supernova Elite pursuit thread - Page 296 - Internet Poker

Mcbrag · 04-12-2010, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mcbrag

Just received about $380 as a refund for apparent fraud activity by 2 of my opponents.

Anyone else who plays 3/6 or 5/10 FR limit get something like this? It's all I play (occasionally 2/4), and I'm curious. And if I don't see you anymore, I'll know it was you stealing my money.

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Originally Posted by Sect7G

Thx Tzen. I agree with your numbers. And if the trend continues then perhaps SNE is not for me. What's the deal with Furbean's hiatus? I don't miss him at the tables... but he's a nice guy.
There are a lot of other former regs that have moved on to other games though. Quite a few SNE's. HGII, Mr. Durden, MightyScrott, PeaceDeath, JoeyJoe or something like that.

I've got my theories....

seriously

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dickkemp · 04-12-2010, 01:33 AM

wow just saw a 250bb ante game running, very exciting!!! it was at 2-4 can you imagine the VPP per hand at that table?!!?

Sect7G · 04-12-2010, 02:20 AM

Mcbrag- is that FRLHE or short handed?

I've never had a refund in my life except for when I personally caught 2 cheaters. I'll say it. Currently there has to be a lot of collusion going on. I find that on some of my tables when I go bust if I reload I keep losing and it never turns around, where on my other tables it goes like usual with moderate volatility. I don't have any HUDS so I can't keep track of who's who. But I'm thinking it's pretty bad and I will have to drop limits due to my current losses.

dickkemp · 04-12-2010, 02:44 AM

Dear sng guys,
what is the average number of hands in a $20 regular sng? How about a $16 turbo?
Ty in advance

Mcbrag · 04-12-2010, 02:58 AM

Sect7G,

FRLHE

I already had to drop limits, but will clear a bonus and milestone in the next few days to take another shot at 5/10.

I've spent about 5 hours now looking at stats and hand histories on pokertracker and looking up info on Pokertableratings and I am now 99% convinced that Furbean and Fua9999 were colluding or at least majorly softplaying.

I've looked at several hundred hands and never, NOT ONCE YET, has either one defended themselves from a blind steal from the other. NEVER, NOT ONE TIME has the small blind even called let alone raised when they were both in the blinds. Those were 2 of the most aggressive players at that limit and they never protect from each other? Seriously?

I plan to look over the rest of the other 1000 or so hands where both have money in the pot and see if this trend continues so I can be 100% sure.

I feel nauseous looking at it. Maybe I got robbed more than anyone the first 2 months of the year so that's why I got the $380. I played 46202 hands vs. fua9999 and 46779 vs. Furbean (coincidental number of hands?) and only 10691 vs. Sect7G. They are the 2 players I've got the most hands in against so far this year (TupeTavi is a close third).

Slightly askew and bizarre stats are beginning to really stand out.

I'm sure someone here knows it was them, but just hasn't said anything.

**** YOU FURBEAN!!! I hope you rot in hell. And **** you from all the people on here and on Stars who thought you were a nice guy. **** your blog you cheating piece of ****.

Looking at PTR I see Fua9999 and Furbean have both not played on Stars since May 6th which was 4 days before I received the refund (investigation period, maybe?)

I see Fua9999 is now playing on Fulltilt and it looks like he/she had to start with a small roll because he/she doesn't have a whole lot of hands in and actually started at 1/2 limit. **** you too, Fua!!!

lacky · 04-12-2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ThanksInAdvance

Last few weeks i've been winning vs the regs but losing overall because i've been running horrible vs SSers which is making the grind hard. Currently in the top 20 in vpps but going to take it easy till they announce what the changes will be for buyins. Hopefully they don't take to long to implement them and hopefully the change is worth falling a little behind

not sure if your playing 6max or full ring, but the 50bb fr tables have been pretty good. I've been playing 50bb nl tables, euro tables and pl this year and ignoring the 20bb tables almost completely. I havent had any trouble at all finding enough tables that I want to be on, especially so in the last 2 months. If your doing poorly against 20bb stacks just filter them out. I havent missed them.

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Originally Posted by Sect7G

Thx Tzen. I agree with your numbers. And if the trend continues then perhaps SNE is not for me. What's the deal with Furbean's hiatus? I don't miss him at the tables... but he's a nice guy.
There are a lot of other former regs that have moved on to other games though. Quite a few SNE's. HGII, Mr. Durden, MightyScrott, PeaceDeath, JoeyJoe or something like that.

I havent played any limit this year either (I guess I might be the JoeyJoe though?) I might play some towards the end if I have to for the better vpp rate, but hopefully not. I like actually winning at the tables for a change

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Originally Posted by Sect7G

Mcbrag- is that FRLHE or short handed?

I've never had a refund in my life except for when I personally caught 2 cheaters. I'll say it. Currently there has to be a lot of collusion going on. I find that on some of my tables when I go bust if I reload I keep losing and it never turns around, where on my other tables it goes like usual with moderate volatility. I don't have any HUDS so I can't keep track of who's who. But I'm thinking it's pretty bad and I will have to drop limits due to my current losses.

I always kinda worried about the potential for it when you have the same 8 guys having to play on every table together.

suckoutgenius · 04-12-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dickkemp

wow just saw a 250bb ante game running, very exciting!!! it was at 2-4 can you imagine the VPP per hand at that table?!!?

where are these ante tables you speak of

Bulletproof Monk · 04-12-2010, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sect7G

Mcbrag- is that FRLHE or short handed?

I've never had a refund in my life except for when I personally caught 2 cheaters. I'll say it. Currently there has to be a lot of collusion going on. I find that on some of my tables when I go bust if I reload I keep losing and it never turns around, where on my other tables it goes like usual with moderate volatility. I don't have any HUDS so I can't keep track of who's who. But I'm thinking it's pretty bad and I will have to drop limits due to my current losses.

we play the same games, just wanted to say ive never experienced anything like this and have noticed nothing unusual, and ive put in a tonne of hands in the past 2 months (close to 200k).

Bulletproof Monk · 04-12-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickyb

The changes were made in the interest of fairness, in terms of a rakeback percentage it is now only slightly skewed towards full ring games. Based on past experience, 'Stars won't announce the full details until mid-December at the earliest. Most likely, either things will stay pretty much the same or there will be a further move to bring all games in line IMO, so for a full ring player I'd expect it to not get any better but to not get more than a few percent worse either.

thanks for the reponse.

5-10% could unfortunately be the difference between viability and non-viability of my plan tho.

robii · 04-12-2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mcbrag

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I've spent about 5 hours now looking at stats and hand histories on pokertracker and looking up info on Pokertableratings and I am now 99% convinced that Furbean and Fua9999 were colluding or at least majorly softplaying......

if this is right, I really appreciate stars for consequently banning players involved in collusion even that they produce a huge amout of rake...

robii · 04-12-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mcbrag

Looking at PTR I see Fua9999 and Furbean have both not played on Stars since May 6th which was 4 days before I received the refund (investigation period, maybe?)

I see Fua9999 is now playing on Fulltilt and it looks like he/she had to start with a small roll because he/she doesn't have a whole lot of hands in and actually started at 1/2 limit. **** you too, Fua!!!

I trust you meant to say Mar 6th which you're right with both not having played since. It really seems they weren't the nice guys one might have thought they were. Furbean is probably also playing on ft, using a different player name..

GiantBuddha · 04-12-2010, 08:17 AM

I just wrapped up my Grindathon and I'm really looking forward to leaving my building. 275k VPP and I'm almost back on pace. Guess I'll have to catch up this weekend, as I've earned a 4 day vacation, imo.

NL__Fool · 04-12-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by robii

if this is right, I really appreciate stars for consequently banning players involved in collusion even that they produce a huge amout of rake...

Link?

Absolution · 04-12-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha

I just wrapped up my Grindathon and I'm really looking forward to leaving my building. 275k VPP and I'm almost back on pace. Guess I'll have to catch up this weekend, as I've earned a 4 day vacation, imo.

175K, but still ramping up the volume as I go to hopefully get back on pace in the next couple of months.

robii · 04-12-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NL__Fool

Link?

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Originally Posted by Mcbrag

Sect7G,

FRLHE

I already had to drop limits, but will clear a bonus and milestone in the next few days to take another shot at 5/10.

I've spent about 5 hours now looking at stats and hand histories on pokertracker and looking up info on Pokertableratings and I am now 99% convinced that Furbean and Fua9999 were colluding or at least majorly softplaying.

I've looked at several hundred hands and never, NOT ONCE YET, has either one defended themselves from a blind steal from the other. NEVER, NOT ONE TIME has the small blind even called let alone raised when they were both in the blinds. Those were 2 of the most aggressive players at that limit and they never protect from each other? Seriously?

I plan to look over the rest of the other 1000 or so hands where both have money in the pot and see if this trend continues so I can be 100% sure.

I feel nauseous looking at it. Maybe I got robbed more than anyone the first 2 months of the year so that's why I got the $380. I played 46202 hands vs. fua9999 and 46779 vs. Furbean (coincidental number of hands?) and only 10691 vs. Sect7G. They are the 2 players I've got the most hands in against so far this year (TupeTavi is a close third).

Slightly askew and bizarre stats are beginning to really stand out.

I'm sure someone here knows it was them, but just hasn't said anything.

**** YOU FURBEAN!!! I hope you rot in hell. And **** you from all the people on here and on Stars who thought you were a nice guy. **** your blog you cheating piece of ****.

Looking at PTR I see Fua9999 and Furbean have both not played on Stars since May 6th which was 4 days before I received the refund (investigation period, maybe?)

I see Fua9999 is now playing on Fulltilt and it looks like he/she had to start with a small roll because he/she doesn't have a whole lot of hands in and actually started at 1/2 limit. **** you too, Fua!!!