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Old 12-26-2008, 01:35 PM   #76
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Re: NoiQ leaving ipoker

glad i left noiq months ago for another reliable skin. I was sure this was going to happen ( being kicked of the network)

really curious to see where noiq landed ( prima ongame boss)?
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:47 PM   #77
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Re: NoiQ leaving ipoker

[QUOTE=iparout;7827790]fastup, since you seem to know many things regarding noiq, could you at least comment whether the bonus offers on the new network will be dealt or contributed ?

And, no, I am not a shortstacking nit, but I believe my 16/9/1.5 style (only playing limit full ring) prefers dealt rather than contributed... [/QUO



most people prefer dealt, that is why many dealt rooms go contributed:lau gh:
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:54 PM   #78
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it could be boss, who are introducing 6 max in the new year.
really? any source?

switch from 5-max to 6-max or 6-max added?
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Old 12-26-2008, 02:29 PM   #79
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I have no problem with NoiQ leaving iPoker. If they join prima, i'm going back to play there 100% again. With ladbrokes opening and NoiQ joining there will be great action like there was back in the days.
I thought Unibet and Ladbrokes will share NLH ring games and nothing about prima itself (Eurolinx etc.)

I hope you are right
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Old 12-26-2008, 02:42 PM   #80
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Re: NoiQ leaving ipoker

Dealt rakeback is so extremely bad for the games I don't get it why many sites still use it. There's no reason whatsoever. I also don't mind NoIQ gone, good riddance.
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Old 12-26-2008, 03:36 PM   #81
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Re: NoiQ leaving ipoker

So its Ongame hooking up with Mansion is my best guess.

I would rather take the 60% Mansion give out and I would still use Betfair for sports betting anyway LOL

I am with the camp that says iPoker will be all the better for it
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:16 PM   #82
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I thought Unibet and Ladbrokes will share NLH ring games and nothing about prima itself (Eurolinx etc.)

I hope you are right
I guess i'm wrong then. It's a while ago since i heard ladbrokes wanted to join the rest of prima. Sharing network with unibet is news to me.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:23 PM   #83
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So its Ongame hooking up with Mansion is my best guess.

I would rather take the 60% Mansion give out and I would still use Betfair for sports betting anyway LOL

I am with the camp that says iPoker will be all the better for it
Mansion 60%??? Mansion is in the ipoker network isn't it?
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:50 PM   #84
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I guess i'm wrong then. It's a while ago since i heard ladbrokes wanted to join the rest of prima. Sharing network with unibet is news to me.
Unibet has been with prima for quite awhile now. The only difference is they have their own small stakes nl holdem games up to 2/4. Other games are shared with prima.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:22 PM   #85
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i used to think that way until i play at boss media site....holly
Absolutely +1.
You can't multitable at Boss. At least at Ongame I manage to play 6 mini tables with Autongame decently, sometimes even 8. At Boss I can't play more than 4. Otherwise I start to time out, the windows pop up on the one I am making a decision and its way of telling you have action on a non-focused table is so subtle you just can't rely on it. I quit. At least Ongame is playable.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:27 PM   #86
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To fastup

Greetings 2+2'ers,

First off let me say that I’m associated with an iPoker oprator. Second, I would like to thank everyone for their posts, especially derek_richmond and fastup. I have a couple of quotes, comments and questions that I hope fastup will respond to.

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To get 50 % you need an affiliate who gives you % under the table.
So i think the affiliate should be more worried than you since NoiQ will close him or her down if they find these deals
I have from very reliable sources the quite opposite; the reason noiq has been so successful with affiliates, is their willingness to go so far with the price war. They out competed a lot of other operators with deals, both to the affiliates, and the players. And more importantly; some affiliates had ok from noiq to give rake back deals as acquisition offers.

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NoiQ have like 10-15 highrollers that play on the highest blinds on ipoker.
These are pros.

NoiQ sent an apply to ipoker about this and asked if ipoker could exclude these players from the policy since they did not play for rakeback or bonuses but just for the cash of the poker pots. These players win millions of $ and withdraw a lot.

So, NoiQ applied but it got denied. If ipoker accepted these 10 -15 players then NoiQ would not have their players withdrawing more than they deposit.
If I’m understanding you correctly, these 15 players (who are not multi-table grinders living on rake back, but rather players who live on their win rate), are the cause of noiq breaching ipoker's performance criteria in regards to withdrawals. Right? Why wouldn’t noiq then just kick these players out? Other operators have done this.

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NoiQ asked ipoker if they could implement the rule that you could not register on NoiQ if you had another ipoker account and only for NoiQ. Meaning, this would only affect NoiQ and no other rooms. NoiQ wanted this because they said "We don’t want players from other sites on ipoker”
Pardon my directness, but I simply don’t believe “we don’t want players from other sites on ipoker”. My guess is that if you looked at ipokers numbers on how many players (and their relative rake numbers) who have previously signed up with other sites before signing up with noiq it would be staggering compared to the average oprator poaching. I have a suggestion; why dion't noiq instead offer to cut loose all their previously poached players?

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You can say what you like but the main reason NoiQ have gotten problems is because other card rooms are mad and scared on NoiQ. These sportsbook complain to ipoker a lot. Titan has also pushed a lot.

Not sure if this is correct or not but somone told me "Titan's ceo demanded ipoker to kick out NoiQ"
What is true is that Titan is now telling everyone to withdraw from NoiQ and offer everyone 45 % Rakeback
Although I agree with you that Titan is no angel and that their relationship with ipoker/playtech is too blurry. I don’t believe however that ipoker is kicking noiq off the network just “because other card rooms are mad and scared” or because “Titan's ceo demanded it”. For ipoker to kick an operator off, there must be a clear violation on one or more points in the network policy. What exactly is the stated reason by ipoker for wanting you out?

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Meet NoiQ in real life and you will see what kind of people they are
Lastly let me point out, that all though I’m happy to see noiq go (I don’t see them as a contributing ipoker partner), I’m sure that the gurus that are behind this company, their employees and investors are lovely people. I sincerely wish you all bright future.


regards, NN
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:59 PM   #87
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If I’m understanding you correctly, these 15 players (who are not multi-table grinders living on rake back, but rather players who live on their win rate), are the cause of noiq breaching ipoker's performance criteria in regards to withdrawals. Right? Why wouldn’t noiq then just kick these players out? Other operators have done this.
Typical Casino operator mentality, anyone that wins must be cheating.
Bar winning players from playing on your skin.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:11 PM   #88
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Re: NoiQ leaving ipoker

The Q to nice people: is there enough money at noiq to pay out to all players? When will wd requests be processed in full? 2nd Jan or 24 jan?
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:15 PM   #89
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The Q to ipoker chiefs: why was noiq allowed to become this big having no proper licence and supervision? As far as i hear now expekt is the only properly managed company under tain license. If noiq ends up not paying out all playersin full this will hurt ipoker. Big time
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:44 PM   #90
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Typical Casino operator mentality, anyone that wins must be cheating
I think you've misunderstood this one SparkMan.
Problem: iPoker is threatened to kick noiq due to a network policy breach.
Cause: If the reason for the breach is 10-15 players, the choice is easy...
Solution: You drop the players. This might sound harsh, but it’s a reality. You don’t upset the entire player base with a dramatic move such as switching networks, just because of some principal disagreement with ipoker.
The players are not cheating, their good players. It’s just that you can’t have too many big win & withdraw players compared to you’re avg. joe, because then you’ll breach the policy. The reason these policies are in place are to avoid excessive in-house cannibalism in the network, but rather motivate operators to focus on general poker growth.


regards, N.N.
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