It looks like the tournament cap is 24.

I should have this confirmed by tomorrow though.

can we have some promotions aimed at cash game players please?? 90% of them just seem to be freerolls which I (and i'm sure a lot more cash players) have no interest in

I'll see what we can come up with.

Ok, here's a question - why did 888 cut down the number of tables? It was fine the way it was. When can we expect the limit to change back to the way it was?

I disagree that it helps poker overall because it makes no difference to new players or fish as to how many tables are available, it only affects regs who are used to multi-tabling.

I'm a loyal player and usually don't have a bad word to say about 888, but in this instance I think it's ridiculous.

I'm starting to feel that these new changes are designed to benefit the new players who have no loyalty to your site and the ones who are loyal are left out in the cold.

Unfortunately I found out when you guys did. As such, I can't comment on the decision making process, as I simply don't know.

I'm sure they have a business action plan in place to support the decision, with profit/value expectations associated with that plan.

As a player, I fundamentally agree with you. However, the cap won't be changed until the action plan has had a chance to take place. Only then, after they have a chance to analyze the results of the decision, will anything happen (or not happen).

Until then, we can hope that as a result of the decision the games stay fatter and juicier than anywhere else.

I can understand that this change will stay for a while to test the waters and I in fairness, I will stick around 888 for a little bit longer to give them a fair chance and to see for myself whether this change would in fact any benefit us as players.

But again, I anticipate that this change would only benefit new players and fishes, while keeping regs out in the cold. If I am right, I can anticipate myself leaving this site altogether as will other regs at some point, which is a shame because I really liked playing there. So let's just hope it's temporary.

Don't get me wrong, I am not directing my disappointment at you, I know you are doing your job as a representative, I'd just like you to convey my opinion as a loyal player.

Completely understand.

I'm here for you guys. Whatever goes on at 888, you can be confident that your feedback is always delivered, positive or negative.

Is this pacific poker?

yup

As a player that can only really manage up to 6 tables at most, it doesn't really affect me. But I do see the logic though. Assuming a Fish will likely only ever single table, then by a reg multi-tabling 'too much?' it creates a 20:1 ratio of Regs:Fish... The network becomes too tough and we chase the easy players away. I'm really hoping to see a spike in traffic with 2 888 Players in the WSOP Nov 9

I guess another temp. solution for you pkr.pkr would be to play on multiple sites. But I definitely see your frustration.

Also, can we have the freerolls happening at more flexible times? As far as I can remember I've only seen them happen at like 3am in the morning (my time) in Asia. Missin' out yo!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for 888 trying to think of ways to increase the amount of new players and fish on to the site, but there are better ways of doing so. I just think they shouldn't employ techniques at the expense of players such as myself who have demonstrated loyalty and longevity of residence at the site.

As a matter of fact I do think that 888 should be rewarding players such as myself for our loyalty. I do personally feel as a whole that 888 is doing the opposite of what they should be doing - and that is punishing their loyal players as opposed to rewarding them.

If their aim is to create a more even ratio between regs and fish, then I do see them succeeding, not because the changes will attract more fish, but because the regs will leave, which ultimately means that there is less rake to be made by 888.

888 should be focusing on other ways to increase traffic like marketing and publicly. As you mentioned, the 2 players qualifying in the WSOP would help 888 see an increase in their traffic in which everyone wins, both regs, fish and new players.

Well one way for example, would be to really make it such that regs benefit much more from the VIP system as well.

I think someone mentioned that with the reduction in tables we're pretty much screwed over for ever achieving any decent kind of volume to hit VIP status.

Maybe 888 can also look towards getting the Fish themselves to try out multi-tabling. Even starting at 2 wouldn't be too hectic and that way that would balance out the ratio. Just an idea

My thoughts exactly!

Hey 888rep - here's an idea! Why not give the players such as myself a better incentive to refer their friends because the existing incentive is a bit rubbish to be honest. That way you would drive up traffic and please existing players at the same time because they get rewarded, then everyone wins!

No need to implement ridiculous table limits or any other changes that 888 has up their sleeves in the future. There's no need to compromise regs in favour of fish/new players or vice versa.

any news on plo hu?

would def join 888, softwares seems great etc

(also please introduce € accounts)

previously they add push and fold (thats designed to empty fish with rake), automatic timebank never worked correctly and focusstealing was always an issue.

now we have waitlist bug that is never gonna get fixed.
and now 8 tables max... like wtf? is it time to change site now again? really? gettin so tired of this ... 888... WTF is going through ur brains... 8 tables? Cmon seriously.. make it 12 then at least... 8 !???!

Not yet. Haven't had any feedback.

I'll mention it. For obvious reasons they market their freerolls to the majority of their customers (UK).

Having the 2 Nov Nine guys is an exampe of being proactive with publicity. The table cap is another strategy. Time will tell what's successful and what isn't. Hopefully there are some positive results along the way.

I'll bring up the restraint on qualifying for VIP.

The Monday Twins challenge is an example of trying to encourage the fish to multi table.

Trying to get the regs taken care of has been a goal of mine since long before I started as the Rep here.

It's a challenge. I've been successful in some ways, and unsuccessful in others. Will always try for more though.

I´d like that too. Would love to play HU plo there.

How can Italian players still be on 888 playing cash games? I thought they could only play .it sites now? Am I missing something?

How long does a cash out take?

Is it true that there is no option in the client to change the password?

Anyone else have problems updating? It kept telling me a file was in use, so it couldn't update. I searched for it in running processes but couldn't find it, so tryed again, and now the shortcut won't work(can't find the program it refers to, and neither can i) :S

Nvm, i re-installed it. Poor programming.

I only have experience cashing out via Moneybookers, and it's been taking between 3-5 business days.

I posted a few weeks back that I would like to see you post more in this thread. I think you have done a fantastic job since I made that post. Keep up the good work.

I for one am happy about the change down to a max of 8 cash tables. Even as a semi regular/recreational player (I work full-time but play poker for some extra $ and because I like playing) the constant time banking and waiting around for someone to muck their cr#p utg is infuriating.

I have seen the 'fish' type zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz in the chat box and then leave all too often, I can only imagine how p#ssed off they get when they want to spend a short time playing poker but then have to wait ages to play a single hand.

I play 4 or 6 tables because that is what I can manage to play in good speed and leaving myself time to make decisions.

To the players who can manage 10 or 12 tables effectively I do feel bad but something had to be done to stop this cr#p.

Maybe rather than limit the tables we could do something about the time bank? i.e if you are playing lots of tables and constantly timing out then the system could kick you off some of them? Or you could get a maximum of 5mins timebank for all your tables per hour? Or maybe we could leave the regular tables alone and make it a max of 8 tables if you are playing ANY fast table? There are other options to consider.

As for being a loyal player the 'regs' go where the fish are. The rake is terrible and the software (focus stealing, notes, cashout times) is not great but players put up with this because they can turn a profit. As soon as the fish are gone and the games dry up the 'loyal' players will be straight onto the next fishy site (as they should do) so it's in 888's interest to encourage the fish to stay. We certainly won't be seeing 'reg's 12 tables each other with no fish in site.

Since this change will hopefully encourage more fish to stay and play at 888 I'm all for it.

N.B This is not a dig at you pkr.pkr. I actually sympathise with you if you are playing more than 8 tables and keeping up to speed. I don't have a problem with players multi-tabling I just have a problem with players multi-tabling at amounts which they cannot handle to the annoyance of the rest of the player pool.

N.B.B With a limit of 8 tables maybe the 'regs' will now speak at the table and engage with the fish to keep them amused instead of leaving that to the rest of us

Is there any reload bonus at the moment?