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Old 10-10-2013, 06:36 PM   #1
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I wonder if NJ is a big enough market, with big enough liquidity pools, to attract a lot of Black Friday expats to return to the US to play here. Unlike Nevada and Delaware, New Jersey has really significant population. And that's without compacts. If NJ could sign compacts with other states quickly, why wouldn't players stuck in foreign lands relocate to NJ? They'd be close to Manhattan and Philly, they'd have access to both live and online play. Seems like a natural.

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Here is info located on the NJ DGE site. Golden Nugget did not make the cut. It also shows the websites authorized. A lot more than expected IMHO.


Division of Gaming Enforcement

Internet Gaming Sites
The following Internet gaming sites are now authorized by the State of New Jersey to participate in “soft play,” commencing on November 21, 2013 at 6:00 p.m.

Approvals will be issued on a rolling basis.

Any site not included on this list is NOT approved to offer Internet gaming in the State of New Jersey.

AUTHORIZED SITES

Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa
Caesars Interactive Entertainment New Jersey - Affiliate of Bally's Park Place
Caesars Interactive Entertainment- Affiliate of Boardwalk Regency Corporation
Tropicana Casino and Resort
Trump Plaza Associates
Trump Taj Mahal Associates


BORGATA HOTEL CASINO & SPA

Platform: BWIN

www.Borgatacasino.com
www.Borgatapoker.com
www.NJ.Partypoker.com


CAESARS INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT
NEW JERSEY - AFFILIATE OF
BALLY'S PARK PLACE

Platform: 888
www.HarrahsCasino.com
www.WSOP.com
us.888.com
us.888poker.com
us.888casino.com


CAESARS INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT
NEW JERSEY - AFFILIATE OF
BOARDWALK REGENCY CORPORATION

Platform: Amaya
www.CaesarsCasino.com


TROPICANA CASINO AND RESORT

Platform: GameSys
www.tropicanacasino.com
www.virgincasino.com


TRUMP PLAZA ASSOCIATES

Platform: Betfair
www.betfaircasino.com


TRUMP TAJ MAHAL ASSOCIATES

Platform: Ultimate Gaming
www.ucasino.com

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Old 10-10-2013, 10:05 PM   #2
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They'd be close to Manhattan and Philly, they'd have access to both live and online play. Seems like a natural.
Close may be a problem. Because of the bordering states, they will (probably?/definitely?) need to set up a draconian exclusion zone, cell phone tower triangulation system. In the case of NJ, that line may fall in some inconvenient places.
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they will not move to New Jersey because they they would have to live in New Jersey.

if u think ppl would move to New Jersey this tells me you've never been to New Jersey.
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Any licenses awarded to operators so far or its too early in the game.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:07 PM   #5
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they will not move to New Jersey because they they would have to live in New Jersey.

if u think ppl would move to New Jersey this tells me you've never been to New Jersey.
Um...

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Old 10-11-2013, 02:10 PM   #6
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Any licenses awarded to operators so far or its too early in the game.
Borgata as far as I know.

What I do want to ask if that person HAS to live in Nj ? I wonder what defines it . I live on both NY and Nj technically . I was hoping you just had to be within the state to play.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:22 PM   #7
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they will not move to New Jersey because they they would have to live in New Jersey.

if u think ppl would move to New Jersey this tells me you've never been to New Jersey.
Do you know how many beautiful areas there are in this state? We are not taking Durrr to Linden or Hackensack. It's going to be Newport or Hoboken, or Marlboro, or Brick, or Saddle River, or Alpine, or Mendham, or Holmdel, or Rumson, or even Sparta.

This state with a successful implementation of online poker would be a grinder's dream. With a mix of online and live action, excellent proximity to the Capitol of the World (Manhattan), and some of the fastest Internet in the country. You watch. I see a bright future as of today. And until and unless NJ effs it up in some way, I will continue being optimistic.
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You will not have to live in NJ.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:26 PM   #9
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You will not have to live in NJ.
No. You can play at the IHOP in Keyport. Really, if you are going to grind 8 hours a day, and you want to supplement with live, you will functionally have to live in NJ. I'm talking about pros, not casuals.
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Borgata is pretty nice for pros, and you won't have to live here. You can just go to Borgata for a few days or weeks.

I know a pro who used to come to Borgata for 3 weeks then went home one week to his wife. Borgata will give you free rooms, you'll be able to play online or live in one of the best rooms in the country.

Borgata also received its license already.

Pro's wont be the issue. The issue is going to be liquidity. NJ will roughly be only twice as large as NV because the population is roughly 3 times of NV but people in NJ are 1/2 as likely to play online as people in NV.

I only play fast poker online, the only room you can play that at 1/2 or 2/5 is pokerstars. I doubt that in NJ with about 1-2% of the player base that stars has we will have amazing games other than micro stakes.

We will see how it plays out.
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Borgata is pretty nice for pros, and you won't have to live here. You can just go to Borgata for a few days or weeks.

I know a pro who used to come to Borgata for 3 weeks then went home one week to his wife. Borgata will give you free rooms, you'll be able to play online or live in one of the best rooms in the country.

Borgata also received its license already.

Pro's wont be the issue. The issue is going to be liquidity. NJ will roughly be only twice as large as NV because the population is roughly 3 times of NV but people in NJ are 1/2 as likely to play online as people in NV.

I only play fast poker online, the only room you can play that at 1/2 or 2/5 is pokerstars. I doubt that in NJ with about 1-2% of the player base that stars has we will have amazing games other than micro stakes.

We will see how it plays out.
True, the ultimate name of the game will be state compacts. That will provide the liquidity. But of course, it has to happen. Definitely wait and see with a lot of hope.
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Well if they create pacts with big states, you'll also have the ability to choose those states.

And given higher state income taxes, maybe even higher cost of living... I'm not sure NJ is going to be a popular enough choice to be the new gaming capital of the world.

Your other points make a lot of sense though. NJ is well located geographically, and while some people joke (and I've never been to NJ mind you), there's a long stretch of beach and probably some pretty attractive areas. It's not like you're auto living in AC or Camden if you move to NJ to play poker.

I honestly don't see any poker capital though. Texas, CA and NY could all have large enough populations to do very well on their own, but unless they team up with an international pool very quickly, I don't see how they become the ONLY destination for most poker pros to consider. Just too many lower income tax/cheaper cost of living states than NY or CA, and TX isn't as desirable to many/probably won't have online poker right away either.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:13 PM   #13
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True. If NJ compacts with Hawaii, well then...
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Do you know how many beautiful areas there are in this state? We are not taking Durrr to Linden or Hackensack. It's going to be Newport or Hoboken, or Marlboro, or Brick, or Saddle River, or Alpine, or Mendham, or Holmdel, or Rumson, or even Sparta.

This state with a successful implementation of online poker would be a grinder's dream. With a mix of online and live action, excellent proximity to the Capitol of the World (Manhattan), and some of the fastest Internet in the country. You watch. I see a bright future as of today. And until and unless NJ effs it up in some way, I will continue being optimistic.
nj needs to have a better medical marijuana situation then maybe... otherwise im just crossing my fingers cali gets it going soon, now THAT would be an online poker capital.
ps. does nj still have no self serve gas stations?
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nj needs to have a better medical marijuana situation then maybe... otherwise im just crossing my fingers cali gets it going soon, now THAT would be an online poker capital.
ps. does nj still have no self serve gas stations?
Yeah. Nj doesn't let you pump your own gas. I always take over after the gas guy starts it up. So it is 100 percent true you won't have to live in Nj? As there are some good opportunities then in the border cities like union city /JC/ Hoboken.
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