Would it make sense if this was happening to you?

Basically what they are saying is I am quilty until proven innocent but they won't speak to me or watch me play.

Beatme1,

I stand by what I have said... I do not work for FullTiltPoker nor do I have any say to what they do or not. They investigated the matter and made their findings, I don’t control their findings. Obviously you did something wrong, because you can no longer play poker on FTP... My personal opinion is I am glad they don’t allow bots. Should I feel bad that you were caught? Should I feel bad you lost money? Should I feel bad FTP finally pulled their heads out of their Asses and banned you and the rest of your crew. There is WAY more to this story that you are not sharing that key 2+2er's know about. Please answer the questions that have been set forth to you and answer why you have never played 1 hand against the other bots in over 100,000 hands that you have played. Simple question should deserve a simple answer yet you have not answered that question. If you’re pissed that your money is frozen and you claim that you’re innocent (which your absolutely 100% not) then bring your case to FTP or the Gaming commission. Anyone can say anything they want. I can say everyone is a bot, but FTP is not going to go around closing everyone's account are they? Do I, one single solitary person that has no affiliation with FTP have that much power? You make me feel powerful, thanks. And reviewing my e-mail's from my site's account I did receive an e-mail from rednight while I was underway and not in the US, not until now I know you were the same guy and surprise, surprise I knew you used a bot then too, hence why you wanted to play me LIVE in the first place... Which again I ACCEPT. You playing me LIVE though does not prove you use a bot or not, but it will prove who you are and I am interested in meeting you in person. I have already got 3 "intermediaries" for our game to make sure it’s legit and on the up and up as you request... All 3 are 2+2er's and anyone else is welcome to join. I hate bots and am glad that FTP banned your account. Answer the questions that are in previous posts before you keep calling me a liar or cheat or what not... Only proving that you don’t use a bot will have any positive result. Continuing to tell people that my lies lost you money is kind of funny and makes my ego a little bigger but I know the truth and now its time for you to share a little more then what you have up to this point. Once again answer the question why you have not ever played any of the other bots ever in hundreds of thousands of hands. This point is key and requires some sort of response.

-Crazy Mike (MrGatorade)

If it were happening to me I would want to be treated innocent until proven guilty.
If what you say is true I think that your funds should have been frozen instead of seized, while the details of the investigation were released to you.

However it makes perfect sense for them not to say something like "we knew you were a bot because you did xxxx" because that would allow all bot creators to update their software to avoid this in the future.

el oh el, buddy. c'mon. you never open the lobby and see if one of your favorite fish is sitting on another table? you never sit down at someone else's table? instead you just sit there for hours twiddling your thumbs while someone you've consistently beat on is waiting for a game? that is highly atypical behavior. you've basically admitted guilt, bro.

Wow, while not a big fan of Mr. Gatorade it seems that there is plenty of validity to his claim here. I used to play him on UB 30/60, I hit and ran on him a few times and he was convinced that I was a bot... obviously this last statement doesn't exactly help his claim and does make him seem to be some type of witch-hunter that accuses everyone who beats him of being a bot. That being said it is very unlikly that a neutral 3rd party (full tilt) would have a vested interest in making a ruling against you without reasons to do so. Also beatme1 how come you never played a single hand against the others that Mr.Gatorade accused of being bots, seeing that they played in the same games that you played?

Full Tilt is absolutely not a neutral third party.

If Full Tilt didn't believe Nations friend's to be bots, and ruled BeatMe1 to be a bot, I would think they are pretty confident in their findings.

beatme1 , plz address deathdonkey and gehrig (namely the issue of not having any hands against certain players

Humble Pie,

Is your UB screen name...
wildebeest45
St Justice
maomao88
juicyapple
isaac168
GomerPileRMC
banana234
dogwithfleas
ImSpecial
FuzhouBaby
bmw750i
ccty
mightylu
MMCC

If not, I do not believe I called you a bot. Whats your screen name and I will do a little research with all hands played with all chat and find where I called you a bot, if you can provide me with the hand or hands where I accused you of being a bot please provide. I dont make bot accusations just for fun or by people that beat me in fact I am a big winner against the bots bmw750i, ImSpecial, and MightLu but I still want them banned because they are infact using bots. Bots are an unfair advantage and typically -EV for online poker itself. Do you want to play the Deep Blue of poker in the next couple years or would you rather play some new fish that is just starting to learn poker? Will the new fish come when they know its full of "computer" players, my answer is no but you can have your own opinion.

-Crazy Mike (MrGatorade)

fwiw I played beatme1 and he/she talked to me.

Dean,
Bots can chat if the user is present. Simple as that. Chat is not how you tell if its a bot or not. Period.

-Crazy Mike (MrGatorade)

Gatorade could you release the video recordings you said you have taken? Seeing that beatme1 takes the same amount of time for every decision would really help win over any doubters.

This wouldn't be the first time FT were 100% sure of a bot, confiscated funds, only to have to reverse their decision.

Of course he won't. He is full of [censored].

I cannot believe that you guys believe this [censored] idiot.

"If not, I do not believe I called you a bot."

mrg, ive railed you plenty and seen you accuse many players of being a bot that were clearly not.

now, if you mean that you have never publicly (like on your site and thru emails) accused a non-bot of being a bot i can understand.

but its quite clear that at the tables you accuse almost immediately, and it seems to me, its done to create a reaction from the opponent. a first test if you will.