wow, whats next for AJB? Some sort of Girah bet? He better make it like 200k to absolutely prevent action

First time poster, i immediately recognized HalKat, passthesalsa and 444ajb. i've played with all three separately and i've definetely played at least 2/3 at the same time on sng's and the omaha 8b pot bet mtt's. i've been crippled and knocked out of said tournaments by these players due to crazy random hands and super aggressive style vs. my own conservative playing style. i'm looking for hand histories on my sportsbook.com skin.

I'm enraged. I feel cheated. I don't know how much money i lost due to this individual's fraud. imagine playing a MTT that pays hundreds of dollars for first place, only to be bubble'd out of the money by someone cheating. if i had 3 different accounts in the same omaha 8b tournament i know i would make money each and every time, especially when the tournament reached the point where 2 of my accounts were on the same table. knowing 8 of 52 cards in this game vs 7 other opponents would be amazing. And whenever one of my accounts went low i could dump off chips or consolidate into one to make an unstoppable chip advantage.

Who knows where i would be at if i didn't lose to 444ajb or Halkat or passthesalsa (and who knows how many other accounts this guy has?). I'm off the merge network at this time and i don't intend on going back. Merge had an incredible opportunity to seize poker market share while the big 3 sites were kicked out of the USA, and you blew it Merge. Too much cheating and bots.

At the very least 444ajb's accounts, all of them on every merge skin, should be seized and the money split to players he stole from, or give the money to charity.

You know what is stupid in one of 444AJB posts he says

"I quit a very solid job 7 years ago because I made more part time playing poker. Without getting into too many specifics I consistently make (and report) 6 figures to the IRS.

Would he mean his cheating here

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Any response from stars?

I have a friend who knows he has been in same sngs as passthesalsa and ajb. Unfortunately he does not have his HH's saved and when he emailed merge to request them, they said they don't keep them...

I am curious if there was real cheating or just chip dumping. I wouldn't be surprised if there was cheating considering the way he is dodging all the allegations. I do not get why you wouldn't have horses on the same skin for easy transfers.

b/c then there is a blatant link b/w accounts, that even an incompetent security dep. will find hard to overlook!

Maybe that's why their "investigation" didn't take very long.

Rofl? If a pokersite doesn't store HH's how the HELL are they going to check for colluders, cheaters or whatever. How is that ***** even allowed..

I know I said I wouldn't post again but this thread has taken a pretty awful turn. I will not be delving into this issue again except with Merge security.

Let me try to explain what I am guilty of and what I am not.

Pre-BF I was accused of MAing because my wife and I both had accounts on Stars and Tilt. Now....before you judge and say "ya MAer", my wife learned O8 from watching me for years and is an EXTREMELY solid O8 player. She is professional quality. There are a number of people (some who have posted in this thread in fact) who can 100% attest to this.

An exmaination of the accounts in question really made things pretty clear. Her ABI was somewhere between $10 and $15 while mine was a shade over $50. We played some of the same games but in general not so much. It was quite obviously not a MAing scenario.

FTP and Stars policy was that we were not allowed to play in the same sngs but that we could in the same mtts. I think we might have final tabled together once in a number of years. I mean it really never presented an issue. In a post BF world, with field sizes much smaller....it became a little different and we found ourselves at the same table quite frequently.

On to the present -

Stars - I have no account on Stars presently, however I do have a couple people playing there that I have staking relationships with.

Merge - Well, here we go. HalkatB is my wife's account. I was under the impression (like Stars and Tilt) that we would be OK playing in the same mtts. After these incidents, I have talked to Merge and they have indicated they would like to avoid this. I have agreed to do so. I have further agreed not to play in tournies that Salsa is involved in.

SNGs - It has been suggested that these accounts have played in the same sngs. To my knowledge this has never happened.

Colluding - I think you will find it pretty hard to make this case. There are a number of hands that could be represented as such as well as hands where I have been taken out of a tourney by them or them by me. There was no concerted effort to stick it to the O8 public. There was never any cash game same tabling or SNG same tabling (with the exception of heads up)

Moving money - I am guilty here. I don't think you can really call it "chip-dumping" as that is designed to give one opponent an advantage over the others, etc. After a review of Merge's policies I believe I am guilty of violating the one that says something about "intentionally losing a hand".

Why? you ask....I had my account on Sportsbook which was cashing me out in days. My wife's was on RPM and so was Salsa's (as well as Stars which I have no access to send or receive funds) My wife at one point tried to make a Sportsbook account but continually got a weird error when trying to deposit and finally gave up. You cannot transfer funds to or from Sportsbook at all.

I am 100% guilty of attempting to circumvent the lengthy cashouts on Merge by moving the money to one of their skins that has their own cashier. I was willing to pay the vig to do so in order to receive my money in a timely fashion. I mean techincally I guess you could call this chip dumping...but I was paying to move the money from one site to another. Regardless, after reviewing their policy I believe that I am in violation on this issue.

Playing on various skins - I have played on various Merge skins primarily to grab the bonuses and stagger the cashouts. It was better to win 1500 on one site then go play on another than to win 5000 on one site and only be able to cashout 2500 for example. My Merge accounts have the same email addy so there was never any ability to enter the same tourney etc...the security recognizes instantly when two different skins try to sign on with the same email addy. Of late the only real activity from me however has been on my Sportsbook account as cashouts were not an issue there.

So....

As a result of my stupidity all of the accounts in question have been suspended. Am I a cheater? I don't think that's a fair assessment but I leave that up to you. Have I "defrauded" anyone? I certainly think that is not a fair assessment. Have I violated policy of the Merge network? I believe I have by intentionally losing hands in heads up sngs to move money across networks.

Unfortunately, some of my decisions/directions have brought negative attention to others and for this I apologize. I am guilty of violating Merge policy. I will accept whatever decision they hand down and I will learn from my mistakes and do a better job of handling my business going forward.

AJ

I think it might be time to quit playing. Had to leave Bodog because of their idiotic bs, now to find out Merge doesn't even keep HH's?? O8 fields are too small. If people MA, they have way too big of an advantage.

Thanks for the thread, OP.

@ajb

So you're trying to say that passthesalsa is some horse you picked up 2 days after BF and comes out solely playing omaha hi/lo and is consistently winning off the bat??

Funny how he plays like you and even sounds like you huh.

Can you tell u how many other clones/horses you have running on stars?

mbn that all you have to do is spin a few yarns when you're caught every cpl of years and then carry on business/cheating as usual..

the poster above is right...if it's this easy to MA in small plo8 fields then it's pretty fkd for every1 else..

well done ajb44...thats all o8 needs just now

Ajb are you saying were close to finding more?

I'm sure you understand if we don't take your words at face value.

What specific Merge accounts are you referring to? Names?

seems like an obv case of chip dumping to me.

EDIT: Based on ABJ's post below, this is even more obvious collusion, and halkatb, supposedly his "wife", dumps 50bbs to his "horse". If your wife is supposedly a very strong O8 player ABJ, how come she can't find a fold on a K high flop with 2 spades (so no flush draw) and then a turn board pair against someone she would obviously know is your "horse"/you?

Doesn't even come close to passing the smell test.