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Old 12-23-2011, 08:34 PM   #16
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Re: Is Merge Security capable of policing games? (Possible multi-accounting/collusion/chipdumpi

Obv the games he plays are limited, and is much more profitable if he can play em x3.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:35 PM   #17
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Setting all aside - it seems his skills as an online player would be very profitable without
multi-accounting. Why do it??
You can place more thn once in the same MTT with more then 1 accnt. Hard to do that with only 1.

But why would you make it so painfully obvious?
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:37 PM   #18
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But why would you make it so painfully obvious?
This is the question Hoss and i been asking lol.

But it does raise the other question, which is, if it's so obvious to us, why isn't it obvious to the security responsible for catching this?

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Old 12-23-2011, 08:51 PM   #19
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This thread was just brought to my attention.

I will post once on it and be done with it...I've seen these things get out of hand before.

Merge security contacted me today in regards to this issue (temporarily suspended account pending reply etc).

I addressed the issue with Merge security and all has been resolved.

Although there was no multi-accounting and no violation of policy...they kindly requested that the players involved take certain actions in regards to these issues and I have agreed to do so. There was a gray area that was outlined more clearly and Merge's request will obviously be abided by.

To make a long story short....a lot of staking agreements have been really made a difficult process by Black Friday. In an attempt to make things easier things were done that could certainly be construed as more than they were. As a result they will no longer be done and alternate, less effective means will be employed. While this makes things more difficult, I certainly understand the need.

Thanks to Merge security for a prompt resolution to the issue and I look forward to easier days for all of us to handle our business in the poker industry.

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Old 12-23-2011, 08:58 PM   #20
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With all the stories I hear around here, I can not believe they didn't ban your account permanently. Not that I care and think they should do so or anything. Just saying..
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:02 PM   #21
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By not banning him, Merge can appear like they weren't negligent.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:05 PM   #22
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By not banning him, Merge can appear like they weren't negligent.
Funny Merge security basically told you that you were delusional.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:09 PM   #23
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This thread was just brought to my attention.

I will post once on it and be done with it...I've seen these things get out of hand before.

Merge security contacted me today in regards to this issue (temporarily suspended account pending reply etc).

I addressed the issue with Merge security and all has been resolved.

Although there was no multi-accounting and no violation of policy...they kindly requested that the players involved take certain actions in regards to these issues and I have agreed to do so. There was a gray area that was outlined more clearly and Merge's request will obviously be abided by.

To make a long story short....a lot of staking agreements have been really made a difficult process by Black Friday. In an attempt to make things easier things were done that could certainly be construed as more than they were. As a result they will no longer be done and alternate, less effective means will be employed. While this makes things more difficult, I certainly understand the need.

Thanks to Merge security for a prompt resolution to the issue and I look forward to easier days for all of us to handle our business in the poker industry.

AJ
So your claiming the other accounts are your horses?? THEN WHY DO YOU HAVE THE SAME OFF DAYS?

YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT YOUR HORSES TO BE PLAYING WHEN YOU ARE TAKING DAYS OFF!!

You are connected to these accounts through ILLEGAL CHIP DUMPING, and you have the exact same statistics.

Also, PLEASE try to tell us you are not "passthesalsa" on stars, as you are clearly connected to "passthesalsa" on merge.

You expect us to believe that another player, who you are clearly connected with, came out of no where post black friday, and crushed the games as only you and maybe 2-3 other players in the world could do.

Come on man, your a scumbag, live up to it, the evidence is all laid out in this thread, and if merge/stars have any idea how to run a poker site you will be banned.

You may have a good set up with multiple IPs/VPN that is saving your story now, but its not gonna last.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:19 PM   #24
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So your claiming the other accounts are your horses?? THEN WHY DO YOU HAVE THE SAME OFF DAYS?

YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT YOUR HORSES TO BE PLAYING WHEN YOU ARE TAKING DAYS OFF!!

You are connected to these accounts through ILLEGAL CHIP DUMPING, and you have the exact same statistics.

Also, PLEASE try to tell us you are not "passthesalsa" on stars, as you are clearly connected to "passthesalsa" on merge.

You expect us to believe that another player, who you are clearly connected with, came out of no where post black friday, and crushed the games as only you and maybe 2-3 other players in the world could do.

Come on man, your a scumbag, live up to it, the evidence is all laid out in this thread, and if merge/stars have any idea how to run a poker site you will be banned.

You may have a good set up with multiple IPs/VPN that is saving your story now, but its not gonna last.

It does seem very suspicious. Didn't he basically admit to chip dumping just now? I mean staking or not staking, there is a transfer option. Chip dumping is still chip dumping regardless of if it is staking.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:04 PM   #25
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So your claiming the other accounts are your horses?? THEN WHY DO YOU HAVE THE SAME OFF DAYS?

YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT YOUR HORSES TO BE PLAYING WHEN YOU ARE TAKING DAYS OFF!!

You are connected to these accounts through ILLEGAL CHIP DUMPING, and you have the exact same statistics.

Also, PLEASE try to tell us you are not "passthesalsa" on stars, as you are clearly connected to "passthesalsa" on merge.

You expect us to believe that another player, who you are clearly connected with, came out of no where post black friday, and crushed the games as only you and maybe 2-3 other players in the world could do.

Come on man, your a scumbag, live up to it, the evidence is all laid out in this thread, and if merge/stars have any idea how to run a poker site you will be banned.

You may have a good set up with multiple IPs/VPN that is saving your story now, but its not gonna last.
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It does seem very suspicious. Didn't he basically admit to chip dumping just now? I mean staking or not staking, there is a transfer option. Chip dumping is still chip dumping regardless of if it is staking.
SFThese... You're obv going to have to go into great detail as to why you "supposedly" BROKE THE RULES to chip dump, pay rake, instead of choosing the other legal option----> Legitimate player2player rake free transfer like every other legit backer. Where'd you find these plo8 sicko's that were crushing these games? Who are they? and where were they crushing for you to find? Or did you coach them for a few days post BF to the level you're at and get them going. To play this off like it's nothing makes you, just like everyone else who has tried to, look super guilty. If it were me I would be posting as much proof of legitimacy as possible to clear my name.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:15 PM   #26
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I stake a number of players. ANY coaching I do involves a staking contract. Both of these players have been coached extesnively. I am not sure either is "at my level" as someone has claimed...but they are both very good. Player to player transfers are allowed on Merge but only if players are on the same skin.

Again....Merge has made request in regards to my account and I will honor them.

I am moving on now. I appreciate the questions/comments and although I have not handled everything as well as I possibly could have I will try to do a better job in the future.

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Old 12-23-2011, 10:27 PM   #27
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Are you going to explain why u and your "horses" take the same days off?
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:41 PM   #28
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Or any of the other questions you have avoided?
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:45 PM   #29
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It appears that he figured out how multi-account by being on several skins at the same time through different IPs, VPN or whatever. If this is the case hopefully Merge can go back, check again and bust him.

I hope Merge & Merge skins are reading this thread. This is just another reason I have zero faith in Merge.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:48 PM   #30
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Also, as "passthesalsa" is supposedly one of your horses, can u elaborate on why he waited until a week after black friday to come out of nowhere and be one of the best plo8 players on stars.

Its mind numbing that you think you can talk your way out of this.
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