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Old 12-23-2011, 07:22 PM   #1
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Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities

Hello. I would like to address a possible multi-accounting/collusion/chip dumping that is taking place on the Merge network. I recently gave merge security the names of 3 accounts who i believe are the same player, playing the same mtts, with also what appears to be chip dumping between the accounts when one ships one.

Here we have 3 of the biggest winners in the merge PLO8 mtts-





Whenever "passthesalsa" wins he likes to dump his winnings to "444AJB" through heads up super turbo sit n gos-





Sometimes "halkatb" gets involved in this, receiving dumps from "passthesalsa" and dumping to "444AJB"-





All three of the players also like to take the same days off (Dec 15 &16, etc)-

"passthesalsa" -



"444AJB" -



"HalkatB" -





"AJB444" , a US player, was one of the biggest winners in Stars plo8 mtts/sngs pre black friday. Post black friday, "passthesalsa" came out of no where, crushing the games-

"AJB444" (last game April 15th, 2011) -


"passthesalsa" (first game April 22nd, 2011) -



When i emailed Merge regarding these accounts i did not provide any evidence since i wanted to hear their response after their own investigation.

My email to merge:
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I have reasons to believe the following player(s) on the merge network are the same person, or at the very least working together, and that there is some collusion and some obvious chip dumping going on between the accounts. The accounts are "passthesalsa", "HalKatB", and "444AJB". The evidence i have regarding this is so compelling that it does raise some eyebrows in regards to the security procedures you (should) have in place so that this doesn't happen. Please investigate these accounts A.S.A.P as i feel i am being cheated out of the games i play on your network. Let me know if i can provide you with anything.
Their response:
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Thank you for your report.
We have reviewed their historical play together and find that they have not sat together with any noticeable frequency, and the hands they were involved with together last night did not have any of the true markings of collusion.
Neither player ever made a bet, raise or re-raise that was not warranted based on the cards he held and based on the size of the pot.
As an extra element of our review we have traced their IP addresses .The results indicates that both accounts are accessing our game server from completely separate locations.
Thank you for your report, we appreciate it, as keeping our card room fair and honest is our highest priority.
Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance.
Best Regards,
Olger P.
Security Team
Merge Gaming Network
Their "investigation" was completed basically overnight, ~12 hours after i sent them an email, which leads me to believe that it wasn't extensively looked into as much as i'd like to believe it was. Judging by their response i don't think i am far off with this assumption.

Given the evidence, i think it is fairly obvious something is going on here with these accounts. In Merge's response they say the accounts have not played together with any notable frequency which as you all can see is just plain false. The HU sngs is just icing on the cake imo. They appear to take place whenever "passthesalsa" has a substantial amount on his account.

I have never addressed something like this on the forums before so i'm sure i could be leaving relevant info out. I welcome any 2+2er with more knowledge with these things to add anything else.

I also welcome any Merge representatives to comment on this, and since 2+2er AJB4 appears to be the owner of the 444AJB account, i welcome him to post as well.

And last but not least i would like to give credit to HossDaBoss as it was he who discovered this and provided me with most the evidence.

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Old 12-23-2011, 07:35 PM   #2
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Good one m8, solid data.
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:37 PM   #3
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Yea, I'd have to say this looks extremely suspicious. I would love to hear AJB4's take on this... The long he waits the more guilty he looks imo.

Well done Gunth
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:41 PM   #4
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Great work Gunth.
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:43 PM   #5
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Re: Is Merge Security capable of policing games? (Possible multi-accounting/collusion/chipdumpi

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Yea, I'd have to say this looks extremely suspicious. I would love to hear AJB4's take on this... The long he waits the more guilty he looks imo.

Well done Gunth
To be fair, the thread was just posted. And if a thread of this nature was posted about me, it could very well be days/weeks before i came across it if i wasn't active on the boards at the time of the post.
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:47 PM   #6
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How are the HU SNGs you show for HalKatB chip dumping, when he wins 4/8 and is down just 1 BI ?
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:53 PM   #7
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How are the HU SNGs you show for HalKatB chip dumping, when he wins 4/8 and is down just 1 BI ?
they are all against the same 2 players, "passthesalsa" and "444ajb", he dumps money to AJB, and receives money from salsa, and as they are the ONLY hu sngs any of them have ever played, at extremely high stakes, its pretty obvious wouldn't you say?
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they are all against the same 2 players, "passthesalsa" and "444ajb", he dumps money to AJB, and receives money from salsa, and as they are the ONLY hu sngs any of them have ever played, at extremely high stakes, its pretty obvious wouldn't you say?
OK, if that's what further evidence shows. What was posted didn't demonstrate that the 4 he wins are against one player and the 4 he loses are against another single player.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:10 PM   #9
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Here are the last 3 days, they have all played the same 7 games -



And all took the 22nd off -










This is not a coincidence, this is some of the most obvious multi accounting you'll ever see, from a world class player none the less, who is destroying honest players value in these games, it need to stop.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:13 PM   #10
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Re: Is Merge Security capable of policing games? (Possible multi-accounting/collusion/chipdumpi

Sorry about that, like i said i've never posted something of this nature before so could be missing relevant info.

Also AJB444 was implicated in this thread as well...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post16622176
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:16 PM   #11
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OK, if that's what further evidence shows. What was posted didn't demonstrate that the 4 he wins are against one player and the 4 he loses are against another single player.
here it is

wins vs passthesalsa -



loses vs ajb -

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Old 12-23-2011, 08:22 PM   #12
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You guys may also notice that only 2 of the 3 accounts play in the nlhe sat on the 11th. This actually makes sense because RPM doesn't have the 150 pt promo.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:28 PM   #13
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Setting all aside - it seems his skills as an online player would be very profitable without
multi-accounting. Why do it??
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hes doing it to chipdump and cashout outside of usa
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:34 PM   #15
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Setting all aside - it seems his skills as an online player would be very profitable without
multi-accounting. Why do it??
GREED, now he is 3x as profitable, maybe even more considering the edge he gets when he is at the same table with himself.
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