Merge Reps: Merge vs. Revolution Limit Rake Structure comparison. Please address - Page 2 - Internet Poker

Mccormick · 07-01-2012, 02:19 PM

Something may actually be done about this? Impressive. About time indeed

nyrugby · 07-01-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions

This is good news that something might be decided soon on the unfair rake in limit games. I hope they figure things out before it's to late. If they would just get rid of the raking every two dimes in pot scheme it might let these micro players build up a bankroll and move up to low and mid limits eventually. Otherwise they just kill the tadpoles before they grow into frogs, and there is nothing in the pond for the fish to eat, unless they want to play .02/.04 tadpoles. But even they couldn't overcome the rake there.

I say let the tadpoles play rake free and don't even begin to rake until you get to .25/.50 limit games. It's not unreasonable to ask for this. We want to nurture the micro's so they can make some money and feel some success so they WANT to move up in limits. Going from .02/.04 then to .05/.10 then to .10/.20 is a natural progression for micro players starting out and if those games are not raked you will help the biggest pool of limit players now on Merge to be able to move into the low limit games at a larger and faster rate. Most now just die in the micros going broke because it all goes to the rake after a few thousand hands played if that. They don't think they are good players and they stop playing altogether. It's true. I know this to be true. So please help the tadpoles survive so we can have players moving up in limits and the games can get healthy again. It won't be instant, it will take time to see the improvement, it will actually be damn slow getting the limit players back in numbers, but it can be done. You just have to nurture the micro players first so they can feel success from actually beating lesser skilled players. If the best players on micros still lose because of rake then limit will never have any hope to stay feasible.

A quarter per $5 is the way to go then at the low limits , with the accepted caps in place also.

great ideas

kahntrutahn · 07-01-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mccormick

Something may actually be done about this? Impressive. About time indeed

Where've you bee mccormick, get in touch sir

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Kahn

CountingMyOuts · 07-01-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions

This is good news that something might be decided soon on the unfair rake in limit games. I hope they figure things out before it's to late. If they would just get rid of the raking every two dimes in pot scheme it might let these micro players build up a bankroll and move up to low and mid limits eventually. Otherwise they just kill the tadpoles before they grow into frogs, and there is nothing in the pond for the fish to eat, unless they want to play .02/.04 tadpoles. But even they couldn't overcome the rake there.

I say let the tadpoles play rake free and don't even begin to rake until you get to .25/.50 limit games. It's not unreasonable to ask for this. We want to nurture the micro's so they can make some money and feel some success so they WANT to move up in limits. Going from .02/.04 then to .05/.10 then to .10/.20 is a natural progression for micro players starting out and if those games are not raked you will help the biggest pool of limit players now on Merge to be able to move into the low limit games at a larger and faster rate. Most now just die in the micros going broke because it all goes to the rake after a few thousand hands played if that. They don't think they are good players and they stop playing altogether. It's true. I know this to be true. So please help the tadpoles survive so we can have players moving up in limits and the games can get healthy again. It won't be instant, it will take time to see the improvement, it will actually be damn slow getting the limit players back in numbers, but it can be done. You just have to nurture the micro players first so they can feel success from actually beating lesser skilled players. If the best players on micros still lose because of rake then limit will never have any hope to stay feasible.

A quarter per $5 is the way to go then at the low limits , with the accepted caps in place also.

If Merge would do exactly this, we could not ask for more.

stuff · 07-02-2012, 02:52 PM

I stopped playing limit holdem there because the rake was too high. I would love to start playing again and I am on board to do anything I can to help get this problem fixed.

jmurjeff · 07-03-2012, 03:42 AM

I really like Limit Holdem but until the rake is changed it just is so hard to play. Please fix this ASAP! This should have been fixed a long time ago.

tyysf · 07-03-2012, 03:03 PM

yeah I play on cake now but would rather play on merge. I will switch over when you fix the limit rake

FoxwoodsComeUp · 07-04-2012, 04:05 AM

I would consider playing limit poker on the merge network if they decided to change their rake structure so it is fair to poker players.

That is my condition.

kahntrutahn · 07-04-2012, 07:01 AM

All of these LHE players! I want you in my games... or in the games below keeping the pyramid strong!

Again, if anyone who plays other forms of Limit (stud, omaha, etc) have suggestions and/or data about the games they play or would like to play, please post and/or contact me via PM.

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Kahn

tyysf · 07-04-2012, 09:15 PM

there are like two other full threads on this we have been talking about it for over a year. They dont care

kahntrutahn · 07-04-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tyysf

there are like two other full threads on this we have been talking about it for over a year. They dont care

False. I know for a fact that a movement has been going on for quite some time to have the status quo in my favorite form of poker "fixed."

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Kahn

antneye · 07-05-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn

False. I know for a fact that a movement has been going on for quite some time to have the status quo in my favorite form of poker "fixed."

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Kahn

Kahn,

Perhaps it would help if we were able to put together a team of the highest Limit rake generators from each skin to serve as player reps on a committee for this issue. I know you have a lot of contacts and may be able to pull this off. We need to get Merge to the table on this. I believe there is some effort underway, but if we organize we may be able to speed it up.

Perhaps we can schedule some sort of a Skype conference call to put together the recommendations that we would want to push.

I'm just throwing ideas out there.

kahntrutahn · 07-05-2012, 01:26 PM

I really just need more info from guys that play other forms of limit poker. We've got an enormous amount of LHE data...

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Kahn

antneye · 07-05-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn

I really just need more info from guys that play other forms of limit poker. We've got an enormous amount of LHE data...

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Kahn

OK. Sounds promising. Going to go pop some popcorn and begin the sweat

antneye · 07-10-2012, 08:11 AM

Bump......

Merge Reps (who haven't even had the courtesy to comment in this thread) are going to have to keep looking at this thread on the front page until this is fixed.