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*** Merge Network deposit/withdrawal discussion thread*** *** Merge Network deposit/withdrawal discussion thread***

11-15-2012 , 12:42 PM
Kahn, I long for the day when you come on here and admit that Merge is a 2 bit operation, and that they have financial issues.


It's like on Merge everyone is a winning player, as they are apparently swamped by withdrawal requests all the time, and never have the money that was deposited on hand.


ie: 100 users deposit a total of 10k..........the top winner makes himself 800 bucks and wants to withdrawal it. So they take 800 from the 10k in deposits, and send him his money right away, seeing as the money is on hand.

On Merge, that same guy is waiting for weeks and weeks with no acknowledgement of his w/d request. He wonders why this place is so slow, do they even have my money right now? He encounters a fella on the forum that tells him if he wants a quicker withdrawal, he should DEPOSIT more money, but use a different method. he says that by doing that, my money will magically get moving my way.

I scratch my head as I head to bank to grab some cash that hit my acct from Stars in 17 hours flat.
11-15-2012 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps
I was poached then they took the sweet deal away from me 2 days after joining.

I played Merge cuz I had no RB elsewhere, and the games were soft.

I falsely assumed that Merge, being a large network, would have their ducks in a row, and thus operate like any reputable site in regards to cashouts etc.


silly me.



I'm mostly trying to understand why my Skrill w/d attempts were denied in 4 days before I had them actually available, but now it's 2 weeks of waiting when I AM eligible.
sweet deal? what are you talking about? you must've gotten some under the table deal that wasn't supposed to be allowed in the first place. there's really no reason for you to not have rakeback on Merge otherwise...

and Merge is operating just like any other site that faces the USA. stop whining because you're not happy with circumstances beyond theirs (or any other USA-facing site's) control

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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps
No, see you don't get it. I am not going to deposit another dime on there, even 10 bucks, cuz that will be 10 more dollars I have to wait an excessive amount of time for.


Answer this: why was I denied in a few days before, but can't be approved within 2 weeks?


Ya'd figure that if they were swamped with Skrill requests, they might go ahead and have that on the ready. Especially considering that those requesting skrill had to fund via skrill, meaning there should be funds on hand in Merge Skrill acct.
if you are not going to move $10 to try another method that is more likely than not faster than Skrill, then that's YOUR problem, not Merge's

i don't know why you keep complaining about a small site like Merge. it's a small ****ing site! there are always inherent risks with them, and especially so since they're circumventing U.S. law. get over it. if you don't want to deal with said inherent risks, then go to Stars or Full Tilt or something.

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Originally Posted by psychosocial
im mostly concerned because ive withdrawn multiple times and the wait actually wasnt too bad. but now its been over 2 months and still pending
it happens. it goes without saying that this could be the apocolypse and the check's never coming, but a check periodically taking more than the usual time you're accustomed to is not uncommon, especially during this time of the year b/c of the holidays and higher mail/withdraw request volume

it's just something we have no choice but to put a thumb up our ass and wait for, because there's literally nothing that can be done about it
11-15-2012 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps
Kahn, I long for the day when you come on here and admit that Merge is a 2 bit operation, and that they have financial issues.
who gives a ****? we know the DOJ can shut them down at any moment. kahn acquiescing to your juvenile demands is not necessary. they're ALL 2-bit operations with financial issues, the severity of which will never be known for obvious reasons

it amazes me that people have any concern for anything like this when they just saw what happened to PS and FT. wow, Merge "segregates funds?" lol...so did PS and FT, and one of them was lying. nobody knows, and nobody can know. stop whining and play at your own risk bro
11-15-2012 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg

it happens. it goes without saying that this could be the apocolypse and the check's never coming, but a check periodically taking more than the usual time you're accustomed to is not uncommon, especially during this time of the year b/c of the holidays and higher mail/withdraw request volume

it's just something we have no choice but to put a thumb up our ass and wait for, because there's literally nothing that can be done about it
Hardly true. They took away "literally" the one thing THEY could do about it and eliminated P2P for Americans and gave us no choice but to wait 8 PLUS weeks, the PLUS being indefinite (infinite?). It was Merges DECISION to eliminate tried and true cash out options, not the Americans.

Now ROW shills and affiliates are preaching to Americans unable to get our own money off this network that we need to stay patient while THEY cash out at will and get their (our?) money in days? Yes, for them they are jubilant by the turn of events that screw Americans as they are able to max their cash outs and get the money in days. Good times for them. Americans not so much.

Americans are the vast majority on Merge. There wouldn't be a Merge without Americans. Americans need to stop playing at Merge until they show a path for cash outs, something they are unwilling to do right now. 8+ weeks is not a parameter of time for getting paid. 8-10 is a parameter of time. 8-16 is a parameter of time. 8+ means nothing when it's going on 10 already. We might be waiting a year and the affiliates and shills will tell us they never promised us a time frame to get paid. They will tell us that we played knowing this and it's our fault not theirs, because the time frame was 8+ and we kept playing after 10, 11, 12, 22,23 weeks went by without a check being mailed to anyone.

Well Americans 10 weeks is to long. You keep playing if you want, but expect to be the fool in the end.
11-15-2012 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
A new batch hasn't been processed. When it does happen, I'm positive that both of you will be accommodated. As I posted a half dozen posts up or so, no one but the Merge Cashier knows when the next batch will be processed.



And the above quote is from someone who has worked with payment processors... it's much more complex than most people give credit to take funds from US players in the foreign countries and magically ship them back through Skrill in the UK the following day.

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Kahn
No one but the Merge Cashier knows, but so far the 6-8 weeks time frame has passed. Do you think the Merge cashier should compensate the people who have been waiting 8+ weeks?

It's so complex yet ACR and Bovada are processing at the speed of light compared to Merge.
11-15-2012 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MP123
No one but the Merge Cashier knows, but so far the 6-8 weeks time frame has passed. Do you think the Merge cashier should compensate the people who have been waiting 8+ weeks?

It's so complex yet ACR and Bovada are processing at the speed of light compared to Merge.
Yeah i have wrote seth about compensate or at least to not charge for the check fee he told me they dont do that im like wtf! every site i have played at does stuff like that! I have waiting 9 weeks now and still no info about my cashout and yeah im going back and playing at bovada if they are slow or mess up they compensate the players they seem to care at least. rpm/merge doesnt care about the players
11-15-2012 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
Hardly true. They took away "literally" the one thing THEY could do about it and eliminated P2P for Americans and gave us no choice but to wait 8 PLUS weeks, the PLUS being indefinite (infinite?). It was Merges DECISION to eliminate tried and true cash out options, not the Americans.

Now ROW shills and affiliates are preaching to Americans unable to get our own money off this network that we need to stay patient while THEY cash out at will and get their (our?) money in days? Yes, for them they are jubilant by the turn of events that screw Americans as they are able to max their cash outs and get the money in days. Good times for them. Americans not so much.

Americans are the vast majority on Merge. There wouldn't be a Merge without Americans. Americans need to stop playing at Merge until they show a path for cash outs, something they are unwilling to do right now. 8+ weeks is not a parameter of time for getting paid. 8-10 is a parameter of time. 8-16 is a parameter of time. 8+ means nothing when it's going on 10 already. We might be waiting a year and the affiliates and shills will tell us they never promised us a time frame to get paid. They will tell us that we played knowing this and it's our fault not theirs, because the time frame was 8+ and we kept playing after 10, 11, 12, 22,23 weeks went by without a check being mailed to anyone.

Well Americans 10 weeks is to long. You keep playing if you want, but expect to be the fool in the end.
what are you babbling about? i request checks on the reg and guess what? IT HAPPENS. checks have always taken less than 8 weeks for me, and never faster than 3 weeks. YMMV, ****ing deal with it

please, Please, PLEASE organize a boycott. i would LOVE to magically get my money faster. more power to you. but the reality is they do not give a **** what you or i or any American thinks imo

Americans get paid slower because of the gov't/overzealous banks, everyone knows this. if one site is faster than another, then by all means, go get paid. some sites are better than others at circumventing U.S. law...whatever. take advantage of whatever shrinking number of options you have left because it's only going to get worse like it always has since the UIGEA...right up until there's nothing left

and lol @ the "fool in the end" bit. the only fools are the ones not prepared for the inherent risks of playing online poker in the U.S. (here's a hint: i am fully prepared, just like i was for Black Friday)
11-15-2012 , 10:12 PM
update: just received an e-mail saying my check was approved
11-15-2012 , 10:57 PM
Requested withdrawal from RPM:

WU method.

Request Date: 11/15

Updates to follow
11-15-2012 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by psychosocial
update: just received an e-mail saying my check was approved
What site???
11-15-2012 , 11:09 PM
This thread is 100+ pages and thousands of posts long, and every person in this thread has gotten paid. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower, but always paid.

That's poker in the US. Getting butthurt about a slow batch is a waste of your time; there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
11-15-2012 , 11:16 PM
my only problem is rpm making up lies all the time they go out of the way to just lie to me and its annoying already i just want the truth in how long it will take 2 and a half months is the longest i ever waited i just wish they would be real with me
11-15-2012 , 11:25 PM
Once a check has been approved how long does it usually take everyone to get your check? Mine was approved today.
11-15-2012 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Smiley928
Once a check has been approved how long does it usually take everyone to get your check? Mine was approved today.
well my first one was on a friday and i got it on monday so it was fast what site do you play at im still waiting to be approved?
11-15-2012 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by eddienashley
What site???
pokerview skin, i might be the only person who uses it other than my friend who gave me the link when i used to play at ACR
11-15-2012 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Smiley928
Once a check has been approved how long does it usually take everyone to get your check? Mine was approved today.
3-5 business days, depends on where you live.
11-15-2012 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by eddienashley
my only problem is rpm making up lies all the time they go out of the way to just lie to me and its annoying already i just want the truth in how long it will take 2 and a half months is the longest i ever waited i just wish they would be real with me
I hear you, but RPM doesn't know anything either. The Merge cashier runs sort of independently from the skins, once they turn over a cashout to them it's out of their hands. It sucks, but all you can do is wait it out.
11-16-2012 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by eddienashley
What site???
Hero did.
11-16-2012 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MP123
It's so complex yet ACR and Bovada are processing at the speed of light compared to Merge.
Just recently People were saying the same things about Bovada when they were experiencing delays with their processors not too long ago.

The biggest US sites, Revolution, Cake before the sell, Merge, and Bovada, have all experienced these issues and times where checks were taking longer.

Occasional delays as sites play a continuous shell game with processors is a reality of post UIGEA poker for Americans unfortunately.

Im not saying its desirable, it sucks.

Im just reiterating what Teflon already stated.

Merge might be broke for all I know, but the truth is, even if there are zero financial problems at Merge these kinds of delays can raise their heads from time to time in the current environment, thats just reality.

Last edited by 5thStreetHog; 11-16-2012 at 01:47 AM. Reason: Corrected An Error
11-16-2012 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
ACR has been great with payouts, they also quit accepting new American players awhile ago.
I signed up with ACR a couple days ago and deposited for the MOSS. How could this be true?
11-16-2012 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by spire8989
I signed up with ACR a couple days ago and deposited for the MOSS. How could this be true?
+1
11-16-2012 , 01:47 AM
My bad guys, for some reason I had Intertops in my head. They were another US site that were also very fast on withdraws but stopped taking new Americans to avoid issues like these.

Sorry for the mistake.
11-16-2012 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Sorry for the mistake.
Don't let it happen again
11-16-2012 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by antneye
Why are we still complaining about check processing times. Haven't we all learned that in the current environment it is going to take anywhere from 4-10 weeks depending on how well things are running for their check processors.

Everyone gripes but then again everyone always ends up with their money. This is the US environment for better or for worse. Just deal wit it. And if you are fed up then start participating in the PPA daily action plan and start getting involved in the effort to regulate and legalize in the USA.
Maybe standard for Merge but there's a fair amount of sites that paid out checks faster than that. Intertops, ACR, True, Red Star Poker (from what I've read) and Bovada.
11-16-2012 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by psychosocial
update: just received an e-mail saying my check was approved
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Originally Posted by psychosocial
pokerview skin, i might be the only person who uses it other than my friend who gave me the link when i used to play at ACR
Pokerview is on the Merge Cashier. Which, if this post is true, would mean a batch was processed yesterday... other confirms?

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Originally Posted by 300zxrider
Maybe standard for Merge but there's a fair amount of sites that paid out checks faster than that. Intertops, ACR, True, Red Star Poker (from what I've read) and Bovada.

Of the first 4 sites listed, the first has a 30 year old sportsbook adept at cashier work but is only one skin representing a small portion of the Revolution player base. Combine the 2nd two on a different network, and they aren't even 1/3rd the size of Merge. The last one, is sitting on a billion dollar sportsbook/casino business and in the earlier half of the year, had 10-12 week cash-out delays.

It is incredibly standard to see withdrawal delays for US players in this environment!


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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
This thread is 100+ pages and thousands of posts long, and every person in this thread has gotten paid. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower, but always paid.
Voice of reason! Thank you sir.


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Kahn

Last edited by kahntrutahn; 11-16-2012 at 05:43 AM.

      
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