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10-18-2013 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thadarkman78
They don't exist atm. Supposedly according to a conversation someone had with support, they are supposed to come back. When that happens, who knows.
It makes good business sense to bring them back.

A couple of months ago I downloaded and played the $50 free rolls.

I cashed a couple, and liked the "feel" of Carbon/Merge.

I then deposited $100.

The rest is history..
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10-18-2013 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
so you feel...

kahn is very helpful but should not be allowed to post,

the mods are either incompetent or unfair,

this thread is only for players.
Not even close to what I said. I said there is a place for it and at the very least it should be known to everyone who doesn't know he is invested in Merge doing well. He directly benefits from new people signing up for Merge under him and current people staying so obviously he is going to be biased in what he says here. Again, I think he is very helpful, but it's not like he is doing it for the players benefit, it's for his, and everyone should know that who reads this forum. I say that with no ill will.

Last edited by iPlayPLOhigh; 10-18-2013 at 12:29 PM. Reason: 40% of your rake tends to make you biased
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10-18-2013 , 12:30 PM
HH problem is NOT fixed (as of 12:30 pm est). Still working on it......ugh
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10-18-2013 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
I think Kahn is very helpful, but I have to agree that it's pretty ridiculous he's allowed to just come into the Merge thread and basically take it over. Bobo and the likes are quick to ban and infract any other affiliate trying to gain customers, yet Kahn can just become the "unofficial Merge Rep". Pretty lol.

Not bashing, just pointing out how contradicting that is. Set up your own thread, make a sticky that says who you are and what you do (so people know you have a bias to particular sites) and answer all the questions you want. This is a Merge discussion for players not affiliates.
If kahn ever mentions he is an affiliate, or PMs anyone to sell his wares, please inform a moderator, as this would cross the line, by a long way.

As far as I can see, he only posts that he has the ear of some sites and that he will try to help anyone who needs assistance or who has worthwhile suggestions. Seems like a good thing for the players.
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10-18-2013 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Not even close to what I said. I said there is a place for it and at the very least it should be known to everyone who doesn't know he is invested in Merge doing well. He directly benefits from new people signing up for Merge under him and current people staying so obviously he is going to be biased in what he says here. Again, I think he is very helpful, but it's not like he is doing it for the players benefit, it's for his, and everyone should know that who reads this forum. I say that with no ill will.


Well point out the posts where you feel he is misleading people. That would be much more persuasive than general blanket statements of bias.
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10-18-2013 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Well point out the posts where you feel he is misleading people. That would be much more persuasive than general blanket statements of bias.
Claiming to be unofficial support and then having a link to his affiliate page in his profile isn't misleading? Again, I'm not here to cause problems with Kahn I was just agreeing that is should be made more clear what his agenda is if he is going to be "unofficial support".
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10-18-2013 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
If kahn ever mentions he is an affiliate, or PMs anyone to sell his wares, please inform a moderator, as this would cross the line, by a long way.

As far as I can see, he only posts that he has the ear of some sites and that he will try to help anyone who needs assistance or who has worthwhile suggestions. Seems like a good thing for the players.
With Carbon Ryan no longer allowed to be here, Kahn is the best thing on 2+2 for Carbon players. He has been very helpful..
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10-18-2013 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
With Carbon Ryan no longer allowed to be here, Kahn is the best thing on 2+2 for Carbon players. He has been very helpful..
And I'm not claiming he isn't a good thing. I'm saying there needs to be more transparency as to what he is and what his motives are. With "Carbon" Ryan at least people who don't spend all day on here knew he worked for the site and no matter how helpful had some sort of bias. It's no different than endorsing a product in the real world.
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10-18-2013 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
And I'm not claiming he isn't a good thing. I'm saying there needs to be more transparency as to what he is and what his motives are. With "Carbon" Ryan at least people who don't spend all day on here knew he worked for the site and no matter how helpful had some sort of bias. It's no different than endorsing a product in the real world.
seriously though, think about it: (using your assumptions) Kahn makes money if people play on Carbon. therefore its in Kahn's financial interest to suggest to Merge changes players want.

in the above scenario Kahn's interests are the same as the players'. Where is the conflict that makes him representing the views of this thread to ppl at Merge who he has an existing relationship with a bad thing?
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10-18-2013 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Claiming to be unofficial support and then having a link to his affiliate page in his profile isn't misleading? Again, I'm not here to cause problems with Kahn I was just agreeing that is should be made more clear what his agenda is if he is going to be "unofficial support".
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
And I'm not claiming he isn't a good thing. I'm saying there needs to be more transparency as to what he is and what his motives are. With "Carbon" Ryan at least people who don't spend all day on here knew he worked for the site and no matter how helpful had some sort of bias. It's no different than endorsing a product in the real world.
Anyone is allowed to have anything they like in their Profile, (within sensible reason).

He is not allowed to state that he is an affiliate in a post or by PM.

Please get back on the topic of the thread.
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10-18-2013 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
LOL, that affiliate kids pm's are legendary. His holier than though attitude is hilarious. I wouldn't let that idiots pm's bother you though, from what I can tell he's done the same thing to many many others here. It's one reason why I wish we could get these damn affiliates out of threads like this. They always steer the discussion in the wrong direction. I know they get their 40% cut from Merge sites, but still, does that give them the right to send harassing pm's to posters here and chastise people in these threads?
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
I think Kahn is very helpful, but I have to agree that it's pretty ridiculous he's allowed to just come into the Merge thread and basically take it over. Bobo and the likes are quick to ban and infract any other affiliate trying to gain customers, yet Kahn can just become the "unofficial Merge Rep". Pretty lol.

Not bashing, just pointing out how contradicting that is. Set up your own thread, make a sticky that says who you are and what you do (so people know you have a bias to particular sites) and answer all the questions you want. This is a Merge discussion for players not affiliates.
Exactly, this thread is for people interested in playing on merge. Whether it's issues or general discussion. Not sure why there should be redundant threads scattering the discussions, unless a paid sub-forum is started for support again.

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Anyone is allowed to have anything they like in their Profile, (within sensible reason).

He is not allowed to state that he is an affiliate in a post or by PM.

Please get back on the topic of the thread.
Thank You, MH
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10-18-2013 , 01:09 PM
not very happy with merge either. first tops now merge mtt sched is going down hill. ughh
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10-18-2013 , 01:35 PM
We need both a Merge help thread and a Merge discussion thread. Two threads isn't a lot to ask for, especially considering that Pokerstars has many threads.

We've recently seen time and time again that the best interests of Merge is not necessarily the best interests of its poker players. Even with the best of intentions, anyone with a vested interest in Merge might not give us the unbiased information that we need to really understand what we should expect from Merge in the future. Restricting conversation in this thread is not a solution of any kind.

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Originally Posted by PSUStudent
Generally better to have all information consolidated at one place rather than repeat postings all over. Stars have separate threads for very specific purposes. If you notice the official bodog or other sites thread, usually there's one for support, feedback, general etc.
I agree that consolidation is important but I feel that a separate help thread would be the best way to consolidate the information.

Most of these internet threads are filled with opinion. Posts that are made to help though are very factual. Putting the factual posts in one place can't possibly be a bad thing.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-18-2013 at 06:21 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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10-18-2013 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DontTreadOnMe11
HH problem is NOT fixed (as of 12:30 pm est). Still working on it......ugh
PT4 hud is working
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10-18-2013 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
We need both a Merge help thread and a Merge discussion thread. Two threads isn't a lot to ask for, especially considering that Pokerstars has many threads.

We've recently seen time and time again that the best interests of Merge is not necessarily the best interests of its poker players. Even with the best of intentions, anyone with a vested interest in Merge might not give us the unbiased information that we need to really understand what we should expect from Merge in the future. Restricting conversation in this thread is not a solution of any kind.
Generally better to have all information consolidated at one place rather than repeat postings all over. Stars have separate threads for very specific purposes. If you notice the official bodog or other sites thread, usually there's one for support, feedback, general etc.

Also, there's already a merge withdrawal thread. There may be two. People can start threads. Most likely, they'll be moved.

Anyway, back on topic, what's actually going on at merge today?

Glad to hear the huds are working again. For people with hh issues, try restarting the client. There seems to be an update that fixed some issues.
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10-18-2013 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
PT4 hud is working
HM2 HUD working as well
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10-18-2013 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Thanks to everyone who took the time to make a clear and concise, non-ranting post about MTT feedback. Those posts have been gathered and with those suggestions in mind, a pretty extensive look at the numbers (old and new) is going to take place. Within a week or two we should see some more changes to the MTT schedule


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Kahn
I hope we can have some consistency in the near future regaurding the mtt schedule & am looking forward to the changes across the lineup

Thanks for getting the HH problem fixed

The $109 6max deep 4k that has been running nightly appears to be scrapped from the schedule. Please have a nightly $109 6max moving forward!!!!

cheers,

Dex
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10-18-2013 , 03:05 PM
If someone could pass a long the late reg issues I'd appreciate it. It's pretty terrible that you can reg with 2 mins left and be >10 from the money. In the smaller GTD bigger buy in tournaments you can get in with like 6 people left in the entire tournament. 4 hour late reg has caused me to go from playing on Merge (spending $1,000+ on tournaments nightly) 5 days a week to just Sunday.
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10-18-2013 , 04:07 PM
I just saw a software update and got really excited, but that excitement quickly faded when I realized they didn't fix anything! Still stuck at a 10 table limit and no hud.
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10-18-2013 , 04:39 PM
Hey guys, there's some systemic issues happening at Merge right now. Be careful. There are better options to play at right now.

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Just stop posting in this thread. We get it. We're all fed up with Merge but your posts in here are repetitive and not productive.
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Anyone is allowed to have anything they like in their Profile, (within sensible reason).

He is not allowed to state that he is an affiliate in a post or by PM.

Please get back on the topic of the thread.
Mike, I've always respected and appreciated you at the highest level. However, on this issue I really think you are seeing things from a different perspective than the majority of regular players and posters here do. We really want a thread about Merge not polluted by affiliates and their minion accounts. If that would be allowed, I'd be happy to start one, but they always seem to get 'merged' into this thread. You can't have an honest evaluation of Merge skins with their paid propagandists here. I suppose if that is 2+2's policy now, then there's nothing that can be done for these forums. It would be nice though to have at least one thread about Merge free from the Merge paid propagandists who 'voluntarily' offer their 'help' to the players.

It's funny, I never noticed these paid propagandists warning players that their VIP's were about to be decimated. Surely, with such direct knowledge of the network workings they must have known beforehand. Yet, for all the 'help' they provide they never warned players to do what would be in their best interests. I wonder why?

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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
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I have to agree with the above post. Where was all this "help and support" when we went from 35% to 10% in a matter of a day? Not a word from Merge, Kahn, or anyone else. Funny how only positive news is brought up. I had saved up 24,000 points and they were instantly worth less than a third of what they were before and not a word.
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Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
First off, you're dead wrong in your assumptions and just because you have assumptions doesn't make them fact. The fact is that Kahn has done more for players and taken more time out of his schedule that most any other person in his shoes would. He's not a "paid propagandist" - you actually look at some of his links in his profile? Might want to actually read a little bit instead of using a vague generality to paint him with all other people in his field.

You can't say "surely blah blah" and then make it stand as fact just because you say so, either. I've been critical of probably every poker room available at one point or another. But I always present a fact to back up that claim. Plenty of people have been able and rightly so to post unhappy experiences with Merge. Where I start to feel the need to correct is in terms of MichelleLee and their kind, that were posting 100% incorrect information that people were reading and assuming was true.

Hold folks accountable - without a doubt. But do just a little bit of homework before you lump a guy in with everyone in his profession that must be solely about defending a room at all costs. That's not Kahn. And believe me, if I felt different I'd say so. No one owns me - I'm not a puppet or a "minion account".
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
Synergistic, can you explain what that means? Are you saying in your opinion players $$$ is not safe on Merge?
Well, obviously your $$$$ isn't safe as evidenced as recently as several weeks ago when they slashed the value of your VIP's overnight with no warning, either from the skins directly, or the paid affiliates here who 'inform' us on what's going on at Merge. It was a strategic money grab by the Merge network, one that led to the disappearance of the Carbon sub-forum overnight and the unemployment of one good Merge rep who took a stand for what is right and what is wrong.

I could list many other times when Merge skins closed up without telling players beforehand, who lost all tournament tickets they held as well as their VIP value.

Merge is on a downward spiral in player base. They have the highest rake of many networks and now they are letting tourney subterfuges enter tourneys right as the money bubble is happening, screwing players who started the tourney from the beginning.

Merge has changed it's underlying player philosophy. Play there at your own risk. Don't expect anything positive from them though.

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10-18-2013 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
You can't have an honest evaluation of Merge skins with their paid propagandists here.

It's funny, I never noticed these paid propagandists warning players that their VIP's were about to be decimated. Surely, with such direct knowledge of the network workings they must have known beforehand. Yet, for all the 'help' they provide they never warned players to do what would be in their best interests. I wonder why?
Of course we can have as many honest evaluations by different players as you like in this thread.

If you don't like a particular post by kahn or anyone else, of course you can Report it for consideration by all IP mods and all Admins for deletion or edit.

Otoh, all threads are open to all, and no one is going to be barred from posting sensible and on topic comments in any thread.

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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
So an affiliate free, propaganda free Merge thread is entirely out of the question Mike? I hope not. I would like to start a PLAYERS ONLY MERGE THREAD. Is that possible?
It wouldn't realistically be helpful to anyone. No one from Merge would post in it, and you don't want anyone with any contact with Merge posting in it, so, seriously, what use would it be that this thread isn't already?

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10-18-2013 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
I think Kahn is very helpful, but I have to agree that it's pretty ridiculous he's allowed to just come into the Merge thread and basically take it over. Bobo and the likes are quick to ban and infract any other affiliate trying to gain customers, yet Kahn can just become the "unofficial Merge Rep". Pretty lol.

Not bashing, just pointing out how contradicting that is. Set up your own thread, make a sticky that says who you are and what you do (so people know you have a bias to particular sites) and answer all the questions you want. This is a Merge discussion for players not affiliates.
nobody from merge is here
so if kahn does manage to help any then thx KAHN
he has always been helpfull to the players
i say this and i do not have dealings with him
if he can help players even a little thats to the players benefit

so all you people would rather have a thread WITH absolutely just complainers in it
KAHN is an affiliate and he says so
he at least has contact with merge
did he know this was all gunna happen maybe maybe not/did his players get hurt from the points stuff /maybe /maybe not
hes not merge.did merge tell him this was gunna happen maybe so probally not
right now hes the only link to merge players have and u want him out
hes the only affil. thats ever been on here helping players /players that arent even signed with him
i would rather have somebody who can at least talk with merge around then none
ok im done


well not yet when i open the tourny lobby is says unable to open lobby
and i cant see late reg or player numbers or anything
every now and then if i keep opening it it finally works
other wise all info i have is from the main lobby this sucks

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10-18-2013 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
Well, obviously your $$$$ isn't safe as evidenced as recently as several weeks ago when they slashed the value of your VIP's overnight with no warning, either from the skins directly, or the paid affiliates here who 'inform' us on what's going on at Merge. It was a strategic money grab by the Merge network, one that led to the disappearance of the Carbon sub-forum overnight and the unemployment of one good Merge rep who took a stand for what is right and what is wrong.

I could list many other times when Merge skins closed up without telling players beforehand, who lost all tournament tickets they held as well as their VIP value.

Merge is on a downward spiral in player base. They have the highest rake of many networks and now they are letting tourney subterfuges enter tourneys right as the money bubble is happening, screwing players who started the tourney from the beginning.

Merge has changed it's underlying player philosophy. Play there at your own risk. Don't expect anything positive from them though.
no, but the actual money that players have in their accounts. Do you have any reason to think that players' deposits are not safe on Merge/they will be closing soon without a trace and taking all the money with them?

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Synergistic Explosions, any evidence that Merge is cheating its players and money is not safe there?

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10-18-2013 , 06:15 PM
does anyone here have the Carbon Elite status ?
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10-18-2013 , 06:56 PM
... Kahn gets so much free advertising from so many people in this thread, lol...

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Edit/MH: Agreed! For no good reason!

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