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Old 09-20-2013, 04:00 PM   #101
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Re: Merge (Carbon, etc) Discussion Thread

Just saw a big ass Carbon banner AD on the NVG page... they still paying to advertise.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:05 PM   #102
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Also where will the deposit/withdrawal discussion continue?
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Looks like Carbon closed their sub-forum. Post any merge-related issues/questions etc here

The withdrawal discussion can be continued here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1264953/
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:16 PM   #103
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Lots of people keep pointing to cost savings as a sign of insolvency. Makes little sense from a business standpoint. If anything, cost savings shore up a balance sheet!

I do agree with the sentiment that support will likely suffer. Such is life.


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Old 09-20-2013, 04:35 PM   #104
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Agree completely with Kahn, I don't think there is anything to worry about. I don't think Carbon or Merge are in any financial trouble. I still trust Carbon and if I had any money and/or can ever manage to win a poker tournament again I'll continue to play there.

I also don't think they is a snowball's chance in hell that Carbon is moving off Merge. The Intertops - Carbon merger is but only a far away dream scenario.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:39 PM   #105
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The LMS bubble popped today folks. GL survivors!
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:44 PM   #106
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The LMS bubble popped today folks. GL survivors!
For the third time
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:37 PM   #107
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Bailing without a word for the most respected poker forum, combined with the brilliant decisions they have made this year, makes me too uncomfortable. From my perspective they've had their foot in the cross-hairs all year and just pulled the trigger.

I'm going to cash and sit on the sidelines while this plays out. Sucks being a US player.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #108
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meh. deposited. if they go down they go down whatever just a dime.
would suck to bink the 215 main and then have them go down tho.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:57 PM   #109
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They can't like all this talk about them being in trouble .... I mean from a business stand point it would scare would be deposits away. If I was in charge and saw all this I would want someone to put it to bed ASAP
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:01 PM   #110
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Yo I have a idea I don't no if it will work or not but worth a shot

Every one send a link to this thread to carbon support with the words attention management please respond. If we get enuff people to do this Mabye they will
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:09 PM   #111
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There's little doubt in my mind that they are already reading the thread.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:25 PM   #112
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Re: Merge (Carbon, etc) Discussion Thread

Honestly, I have a feeling Carbon & Aced are leaving/parting ways with Merge.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:25 PM   #113
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Carbon created the network, sold it, and now they seem like they can't wait to get off it. The present day owners of Merge don't seem like they even care about the player base numbers, so I doubt they care if Carbon leaves. In fact, they probably want them to leave. Nobody want's to buy a company and keep the original owners around forever, right? If I was Carbon, I'd be working on a deal with joining WPN. It makes the most sense to me. Especially with WPN's future plans on increasing tourney guarantees much higher. I think it's been about two years since Carbon sold the network, so I would think they are free to leave now if they so wish. We will see I guess. Usually when a big move is coming they go into hush mode beforehand. Like they are doing right now. That affiliate kid who posts all the time probably knows but he's not going to tell us in this thread I'm sure.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #114
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Carbon created the network, sold it, and now they seem like they can't wait to get off it. The present day owners of Merge don't seem like they even care about the player base numbers, so I doubt they care if Carbon leaves. In fact, they probably want them to leave. Nobody want's to buy a company and keep the original owners around forever, right? If I was Carbon, I'd be working on a deal with joining WPN. It makes the most sense to me. Especially with WPN's future plans on increasing tourney guarantees much higher. I think it's been about two years since Carbon sold the network, so I would think they are free to leave now if they so wish. We will see I guess. Usually when a big move is coming they go into hush mode beforehand. Like they are doing right now. That affiliate kid who posts all the time probably knows but he's not going to tell us in this thread I'm sure.
Well said. I agree 100% Deja vu all over again (Hero, RPM etc...)
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:49 PM   #115
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Re: Merge (Carbon, etc) Discussion Thread

should i change all my VIP points for cash ASAP? chances my points will disappear in the next few days?
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:54 PM   #116
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should i change all my VIP points for cash ASAP? chances my points will disappear in the next few days?
If history repeats, yes. Better safe than sorry. It seemed like every time in the past when a skin on Merge closed with no warning the players got stuck with their points with no options to cash them in, because it was a "Merge" decision and not the skins decision. So no reason to let Merge screw you like they did so many others before. Hero was the only skin where the owner gave players a heads up about it. The other skins went into a quiet mode before they moved and didn't communicate with their players. Sound familiar?
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:59 PM   #117
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should i change all my VIP points for cash ASAP? chances my points will disappear in the next few days?
I don't want to give any advice but I will say a lot of players didn't do this and/or use their tourney tixx and they weren't transferred to the new skin after the Hero shutdown. Only real money was transferred.
(And yes you're right SYNEXP, there was a small window of opportunity to do this before the Hero shutdown)
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:03 PM   #118
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Agree completely with Kahn, I don't think there is anything to worry about. I don't think Carbon or Merge are in any financial trouble. I still trust Carbon and if I had any money and/or can ever manage to win a poker tournament again I'll continue to play there.
This May 2013 post by an August 2012 BBJ winner included both the bad and the good news about withdrawals from Carbon:

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If you don't know me, I hit the BBJ awhile back and had a significant amount of $$$ on Carbon. For you US players, when I lived in the US I was getting $2500 checks about once a month or so and I had them stacked $50K deep. It wasnt bad and only 1 bounced outta 11 that I received. Otherwise I deposited all the others via ATM and they cleared with no issues. Still that wasnt quick enough for me............

...........So I moved to Canada. Now the good news for ROW players and it should ease US players minds as well. The day I got here I was able to cash out through Skrill a little under $100K. It was processed immediately from Carbon and took 8 days to show up in my Skrill account. My take from all this is that your $$ is safe with Carbon and they are doing their best to get it to you as fast as possible, whether or not you are US or ROW player.

Well GL all, now go out and crush souls
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:20 PM   #119
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Carbon created the network, sold it, and now they seem like they can't wait to get off it. The present day owners of Merge don't seem like they even care about the player base numbers, so I doubt they care if Carbon leaves. In fact, they probably want them to leave. Nobody want's to buy a company and keep the original owners around forever, right? If I was Carbon, I'd be working on a deal with joining WPN. It makes the most sense to me. Especially with WPN's future plans on increasing tourney guarantees much higher. I think it's been about two years since Carbon sold the network, so I would think they are free to leave now if they so wish. We will see I guess. Usually when a big move is coming they go into hush mode beforehand. Like they are doing right now. That affiliate kid who posts all the time probably knows but he's not going to tell us in this thread I'm sure.
As I've recently stated, I can and have dealt with most issues regarding internet poker. However, crappy software and disconnects are two issues I choose not to bother with. And WPN seems to be a leader in both. Just sayin...
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:30 PM   #120
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As I've recently stated, I can and have dealt with most issues regarding internet poker. However, crappy software and disconnects are two issues I choose not to bother with. And WPN seems to be a leader in both. Just sayin...
Carbon has software dev experience. Maybe they could improve it over time. I know what you are saying though. It's a present day mess over there. Their plans to increase tourney guarantees seems ambitious all things being equal. Makes me think they know something we don't about possible new players joining the site. Who knows. Speculation is just that.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:46 PM   #121
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Is carbon moving out of merge??
Should I convert my points and cashout asap? I have my whole roll there.
I just deposited last month and created an account.

PS : I'm not from the U.S . I'm in Asia

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Old 09-20-2013, 09:04 PM   #122
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I love how even though there is warning sign after warning sign people still remain ever hopeful.

Maybe not meeting the guarantees in PM is the last straw that sinks them or maybe they were sunk a while ago.

What a shady company move to close the thread without a word and redirect us to their know nothing online customer service.

With FT finally giving out refunds, with NJ and NV looking to combine their player pools the USA will have all the options we need hopefully in a year or less. If you get your money lost on this shady site you deserve what you get.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:09 PM   #123
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I love how even though there is warning sign after warning sign people still remain ever hopeful.

Maybe not meeting the guarantees in PM is the last straw that sinks them or maybe they were sunk a while ago.

What a shady company move to close the thread without a word and redirect us to their know nothing online customer service.

With FT finally giving out refunds, with NJ and NV looking to combine their player pools the USA will have all the options we need hopefully in a year or less. If you get your money lost on this shady site you deserve what you get.
I've done pretty well in the 29 months I've been on this 'shady site'. Just sayin...
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:26 PM   #124
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I've done pretty well in the 29 months I've been on this 'shady site'. Just sayin...
Things have definitely been ok for the time I've been playing on Carbon also. (about 1 year and 10 months) but I think you have to be very skeptical right now.
Given all of the changes in recent weeks/months and now this, Carbon leaving the Merge network is a very good possibility.
As a matter of fact, as I and Synergistic have pointed out in previous posts, it actually seems likely.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:35 PM   #125
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I've done pretty well in the 29 months I've been on this 'shady site'. Just sayin...
good for you. Get your money out and play live for a while. Airfare and a motel room should be no problem for big winners. Vegas, LA, even Philly had a nice tournament series coming up.

My question is with the history of online poker, with big corporation spending a lot of money and having politicians on their side to get back into online poker, with the recent cutbacks in VIP and now leaving this site without a word why would anyone take a chance?
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