Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread [Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread

04-22-2014 , 03:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirdman
Such an immature post, do not understand why someone of your affiliation would bash avid posters in his own thread. Right or wrong, no need for unnecessary pettiness.
it's not "his thread". people are probably mistaken thinking that is the case because he is one of the few posters who consistently both answers questions with helpful information and gives readers here insight into what is going on behind the scenes. those are both good things for every1 here and we're lucky to have some1 who knows what they're talking about posting regularly here after the official Carbon thread closed.

and there's history between the two. i can understand you think that if you just started reading this forum though.

the $215 High roller: i really don't understand why that one poster thinks that is some evil money-draining boogeymen on Merge. i don't think there's many (if any) solid players grinding $11 MTTs who decide to decimate their bankroll with 3 buy-in there.

and some1 who does do that isn't a solid player and they just want to gamble. if u have a regular depositor betting $100 on 3 NBA games a night who cares if he wants to play a high buy-in tournament.

there's more than 100 MTTs on Merge everyday, and 8 of them are "nightlies" with 5k ss and 12 minute blinds. just because those haven't gotten much bigger (and they still have the opportunity to grow) doesn't mean desegregating has not been a massive win for every player on Merge. 3 MTTs i play regularly have 3 times the prize pool as before, and one of them is like 4x+ what it was a month ago.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 04:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrawNone
3 MTTs i play regularly have 3 times the prize pool as before, and one of them is like 4x+ what it was a month ago.

Care to share with everyone which tournaments those are?


--
Kahn
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Care to share with everyone which tournaments those are?


--
Kahn
17:00 Server Time-$5.50 Knockout and the $11 Knockout

the $5 game's prizepool has exploded since desegregation. it used to be $500 guarentee and it stayed between $500-$700. they just raised it to $750 which is super conservative because it's been getting $1000-$1200 pretty regularly now.

the bigger change has been in the $11 though. the $11 game was recently added and every day a week or so before desegregation i was shocked to see it still on the schedule.

it was a new tournament with a small player pool and some days it didn't have enough people to start. sometime a little overlay, but most days only a few buy-ins over the $400 guarantee, and most of the buy-in were multiple bullets from the same players. i genuinely expected to see it canceled and i wouldn't have been that mad since it made sense to me; they tried, it failed, move on.

fast forward to after desegregation-it runs everyday, SO much softer to play, and they just moved the guarantee from $400 to $750. and now that it has a $750 on it i expect that new guarantee will be exceeded on a regular basis.

also the 12:30 $5.50 KO-when i used to play it there was 60-90 runners. the last day i was able to play it i think it was something like 240.

Last edited by DrawNone; 04-22-2014 at 07:07 AM.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 08:05 AM
How much do you have to rake a month to get the 15% cashback status?

Thanks
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoNgMan
You do understand that most tracking sites out there now do track re-entrys, right?
This is what I'm talking about, it's just plain ignorance. Tracking sites take the total entries and average the buy in over all players, not individual re-entries. So say you're in for 1 bullet, yet a reg is in for 5 bullets, those both get pulled in and averaged out. No single player's re-entries are tracked, this profit is highly bloated. Look at the lobbies when most of these guys win, anything less than $60 most regs are in for 3 bullets. You turn a $60 MTT into a $180 tourney, your ROI is less than 1/3 of what it shows and your profit margin sinks.

Cash players fine but still there are only 8-10 making enough money out there to ever maintain anything a $10K BR. But this myth that MTT players are crushing it on Carbon is going to the downfall of most regs. Looking at OPR/SS and seeing your tracked results isn't going to reflect what's in your account, trust me. If SS/OPR were to track true ROI's then I think most people would understand the reality that bankrolls are getting drained for even the best of regs when they continue to play a nightly $215.

Again, best solution would be to remove the HR and replace it with a nightly tourney. Each different from the other on a different night. Instead of having one reg filled, reg won tourney draining the BR's of players. Take the $20K gtd and make an $11 tourney on Monday for it, and bring back the Mid-Week Monster, make a $215 50K on Fridays. "Flagship" tourneys you can advertise which brings in the average player so much more often imho.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindmentality
This is what I'm talking about, it's just plain ignorance. Tracking sites take the total entries and average the buy in over all players, not individual re-entries. So say you're in for 1 bullet, yet a reg is in for 5 bullets, those both get pulled in and averaged out. No single player's re-entries are tracked, this profit is highly bloated. Look at the lobbies when most of these guys win, anything less than $60 most regs are in for 3 bullets. You turn a $60 MTT into a $180 tourney, your ROI is less than 1/3 of what it shows and your profit margin sinks.

Cash players fine but still there are only 8-10 making enough money out there to ever maintain anything a $10K BR. But this myth that MTT players are crushing it on Carbon is going to the downfall of most regs. Looking at OPR/SS and seeing your tracked results isn't going to reflect what's in your account, trust me. If SS/OPR were to track true ROI's then I think most people would understand the reality that bankrolls are getting drained for even the best of regs when they continue to play a nightly $215.

Again, best solution would be to remove the HR and replace it with a nightly tourney. Each different from the other on a different night. Instead of having one reg filled, reg won tourney draining the BR's of players. Take the $20K gtd and make an $11 tourney on Monday for it, and bring back the Mid-Week Monster, make a $215 50K on Fridays. "Flagship" tourneys you can advertise which brings in the average player so much more often imho.
Can I please get some of whatever it is you're smoking??? Please. Go check out OPR and tell me they don't keep track of individual reentries.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindmentality
This is what I'm talking about, it's just plain ignorance. Tracking sites take the total entries and average the buy in over all players, not individual re-entries. So say you're in for 1 bullet, yet a reg is in for 5 bullets, those both get pulled in and averaged out. No single player's re-entries are tracked, this profit is highly bloated.
This is laughably wrong.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindmentality
This is what I'm talking about, it's just plain ignorance. Tracking sites take the total entries and average the buy in over all players, not individual re-entries. So say you're in for 1 bullet, yet a reg is in for 5 bullets, those both get pulled in and averaged out.
How many people have to tell you you're completely wrong before you figure it out?

OPR tracks every single reentry you have and it lowers your ROI accordingly.

SS tracks every reentry you have, but treats them like rebuys and doesn't lower your ROI.

Both take reentries into account when calculating wins and losses.

I keep track of all my MTTs for Merge manually because PT4 doesn't import Merge MTT results correctly and both are usually very close to accurate. Every now and again 1 or the other will be slightly off, but not very often.

Does SS and OPR miss tournaments sometimes? Yes, they do, but it is rare.

I'm sorry you can't wrap you're head around people having a $10K+ BR but many do. Be it from playing poker, a real job, being a hooker, or w/e.

Obviously there are some people blowing all the money they have playing the HR, but they are going to blow it all no matter if this tournament exists or not. I'm baffled why you think a tournament that is $30,000 pretty much every night now is a bad thing. It brings both regs and recs to the site and is one of the best tournaments they have.

If you're so concerned for everyone maybe you should take up getting Merge to get rid of their casino games or sports betting. I'm sure that will go over well!

Last edited by iPlayPLOhigh; 04-22-2014 at 11:00 AM.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomTrollbooth
Has merge released the mobile app thru invite yet?
It's available for everyone. Go to the website of w/e skin you use and there should be a big advertisement on the front page showing you how to download it.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 11:46 AM
m.carbonpoker.ag is the only thing I know of...
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomTrollbooth
Right, I've done that and can only play nlhe. I thought I read awhile back that they were developing a proper app. Just looking to play some plo at work
You're SOL atm, sucks I know. Hopefully soon we'll be able to play everything with the app.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
How many people have to tell you you're completely wrong before you figure it out?

OPR tracks every single reentry you have and it lowers your ROI accordingly.

SS tracks every reentry you have, but treats them like rebuys and doesn't lower your ROI.

Both take reentries into account when calculating wins and losses.

I keep track of all my MTTs for Merge manually because PT4 doesn't import Merge MTT results correctly and both are usually very close to accurate. Every now and again 1 or the other will be slightly off, but not very often.

Does SS and OPR miss tournaments sometimes? Yes, they do, but it is rare.

I'm sorry you can't wrap you're head around people having a $10K+ BR but many do. Be it from playing poker, a real job, being a hooker, or w/e.

Obviously there are some people blowing all the money they have playing the HR, but they are going to blow it all no matter if this tournament exists or not. I'm baffled why you think a tournament that is $30,000 pretty much every night now is a bad thing. It brings both regs and recs to the site and is one of the best tournaments they have.

If you're so concerned for everyone maybe you should take up getting Merge to get rid of their casino games or sports betting. I'm sure that will go over well!
This whole thing is laughable. And no, just becomes some forum nerds all gang up and think don't grab onto the concept doesn't bother me. If you look at SS and OPR it surely does not track if I am in for 1 bullet or 3 sir, never has nor will. The sites send the tourney lobbies and they take the buy in as an average across all players. I'm one of the top 1% that got a 4 table cap put on them so I think I would know exactly what I'm talking about.

You all need to face the reality that bloated statistics are just the norm now because of how re-entries are tracked over an entire player pool instead of a singular player. I get that you all want to believe that these players are killing it, they're doing well but their profits and ROI's are bloated.

This is where American poker is these days? Where everyone is filled with the same disinformation? OMG, OMG, OMG, I'm deep in the nightly HR, oooooooooo. FFS it's a $215 SNG with 4hrs + late reg, do the math please. The tourney is so -EV for players and the site I just throw my hands up because you all just buy into it. This is exactly what Merge wants and it seems they are getting what they want. Instead of thinking rationally you all just want a shot at THE NIGHTLY HIGHROLLER.

For ANY player not playing the highest level of cash they offer to have more than $5K in their account is just irresponsible unless waiting on a cashout, period. You wonder why so many euros players are dying for the regulation to end and American players to re-enter to the player pools, this is why. The concepts that are just norm for the rest of the poker world are just lost on most of you because you're so far behind the game. There is a reason most smaller euro sites don't offer anything over a $109 on a their daily schedules, but instead opt for weekly tourneys, and they CRUSH the player traffic numbers that Merge gets even with a much smaller player pool.

I wish you all the best but instead of just agreeing with each other and this thread just being forum regs that are all patting themselves on the back you should all start questioning things a bit more. Like how is Merge not in the top 10 for site traffic when were/are the biggest American site? Smaller euro sites do better traffic even with players being able to play Stars/FTP and yet Merge draws from a huge land mass and player pool and ranks 17th on the list of site traffic.

GL to all of you because this is tiresome to be banging my head into a wall with people either trolling or just being stubborn.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 12:26 PM
You literally have no idea what you're talking about, actually.

I'm not certain you've typed 1 correct thing in the multiple pages of text walls you've posted. Even when people try to help inform you about how things work you still fail to grasp the concept. Hopefully you're just a troll and really not this ******ed.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 12:49 PM
FWIW, with a quick check I did see multi-entry results on OPR. Specifically, there are multiple result listings for same player in the same multi-entry MTTs. No idea how accurate it is or if it's the same on SS. Rebuy tournaments clearly have to be averaged since the individual rebuys are not listed in the lobby.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindmentality
This whole thing is laughable. And no, just becomes some forum nerds all gang up and think don't grab onto the concept doesn't bother me. If you look at SS and OPR it surely does not track if I am in for 1 bullet or 3 sir, never has nor will. The sites send the tourney lobbies and they take the buy in as an average across all players. I'm one of the top 1% that got a 4 table cap put on them so I think I would know exactly what I'm talking about.
Post your SN or get out of here. Please.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 01:20 PM
Carbons latest update resolved an issue allowing players to sit at more than the maximum number of tables
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 01:46 PM
People are confusing re-entries and rebuys
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Cut
FWIW, with a quick check I did see multi-entry results on OPR. Specifically, there are multiple result listings for same player in the same multi-entry MTTs. No idea how accurate it is or if it's the same on SS. Rebuy tournaments clearly have to be averaged since the individual rebuys are not listed in the lobby.
Both are pretty accurate. Rebuys do throw it off slightly as well. On Sharkscope the reentries aren't taken into consideration for your ROI, on Official Poker Rankings your ROI is lower because of reentries because they count each reentry as an individual tournament.

For example, if you played 500 tournaments and re-bought once in them all (so you're in for 2 entries) it'd show up as 500 games on SS and 1,000 games on OPR.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
How much do you have to rake a month to get the 15% cashback status?

Thanks

$500

http://www.carbonpoker.ag/rewards/


--
Kahn
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grindmentality
This whole thing is laughable. And no, just becomes some forum nerds all gang up and think don't grab onto the concept doesn't bother me. If you look at SS and OPR it surely does not track if I am in for 1 bullet or 3 sir, never has nor will. The sites send the tourney lobbies and they take the buy in as an average across all players. I'm one of the top 1% that got a 4 table cap put on them so I think I would know exactly what I'm talking about.

You all need to face the reality that bloated statistics are just the norm now because of how re-entries are tracked over an entire player pool instead of a singular player. I get that you all want to believe that these players are killing it, they're doing well but their profits and ROI's are bloated.

This is where American poker is these days? Where everyone is filled with the same disinformation? OMG, OMG, OMG, I'm deep in the nightly HR, oooooooooo. FFS it's a $215 SNG with 4hrs + late reg, do the math please. The tourney is so -EV for players and the site I just throw my hands up because you all just buy into it. This is exactly what Merge wants and it seems they are getting what they want. Instead of thinking rationally you all just want a shot at THE NIGHTLY HIGHROLLER.

For ANY player not playing the highest level of cash they offer to have more than $5K in their account is just irresponsible unless waiting on a cashout, period. You wonder why so many euros players are dying for the regulation to end and American players to re-enter to the player pools, this is why. The concepts that are just norm for the rest of the poker world are just lost on most of you because you're so far behind the game. There is a reason most smaller euro sites don't offer anything over a $109 on a their daily schedules, but instead opt for weekly tourneys, and they CRUSH the player traffic numbers that Merge gets even with a much smaller player pool.

I wish you all the best but instead of just agreeing with each other and this thread just being forum regs that are all patting themselves on the back you should all start questioning things a bit more. Like how is Merge not in the top 10 for site traffic when were/are the biggest American site? Smaller euro sites do better traffic even with players being able to play Stars/FTP and yet Merge draws from a huge land mass and player pool and ranks 17th on the list of site traffic.

GL to all of you because this is tiresome to be banging my head into a wall with people either trolling or just being stubborn.
Not trolling you pal.

A lot of what you say makes sense. But hey, nobody likes having there nightly games taken away, whether its high rollers or micro daily dollar fans.

So just leave this group of players alone at the high roller, they aren't a drain on the ecosystem.

Im not trolling you like i said. I found a lot of what you wrote interesting.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 02:02 PM
GrindMentality unless i missed it your evidence that SS and OPR provide inaccurate information is "lol its so obvious."

do u have actual evidence they don't track results accurately?
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 03:20 PM
How many tables do they let you play at one time on Carbon now?

Thanks
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
How many tables do they let you play at one time on Carbon now?

Thanks
Since the last update it varies. Some people have stated they're being limited to 4 tables while others can go up to 18, it is completely player dependent.
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirdman
Since the last update it varies. Some people have stated they're being limited to 4 tables while others can go up to 18, it is completely player dependent.
I asked Carbon customer chat a few minutes ago and "Alex" said it was ten
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote
04-22-2014 , 04:14 PM
I've been searching the forums with little success as well as google for people who are Carbon Elite and none of them seem to know why they were invited in the first place.
I'm just wondering if anyone has a more solid understanding of what it takes or what stakes it takes in order to achieve Carbon Elite status at Carbon Poker.
I am currently a 500-1000 a week $2 SnG player and I am currently jumping stakes for the first time to $5 dollar SnGs and I'm wondering when if ever I will get invited or if anyone has ANY information on how I go about trying to get invited.
Thanks for taking the time to read

-Ryan
[Merge Gaming Network] Discussion Thread Quote

      
m