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Question about the bitcoin 5% fee people here are mentioning. Would that be waived for my first "free cashout" of the year? If not I'm thinking I should switch for another method that is free.

Edit: Answer my own question via live chat. If anyone else is interested, bitcoin ALWAYS comes with the fee. I guess I will be patient and wait for a bank wire

Last edited by deleted acct; 07-27-2016 at 01:42 PM.

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07-27-2016 , 05:51 PM

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chinamaniac

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,720

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Originally Posted by matt0216

Okay, but that doesn't explain why the fee is higher than what it was on checks, which is a more complicated/costly method for them. The only reason they slapped a 5% on bitcoin was because they used their existing "e-wallet" policy.

Are there any other sites that charge a fee on bitcoin withdrawals? Maybe Chico, but they at least allow one free w/d per month. Bovada/WPN surely don't.

You don't have to defend Merge on everything; it shouldn't be hard to accept that it's a ridiculous policy.

Im not defending anything and if u think the policy is ridiculous thats fine. Im not getting into comparing whatever other sites do because it is not relevant.

They can charge whatever they want. You can choose whatever withdraw method you want or can choose to play where you want.

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07-27-2016 , 07:05 PM

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39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac

Im not getting into comparing whatever other sites do because it is not relevant.

Actually, in this case it is relevant due to the fact that Bitcoin transactions do not really trigger any transaction fees.

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07-27-2016 , 11:20 PM

#17630

DonkCommitted

adept

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 748

Anyone know what's up with the 25nl player CardRackerAAA? They play all day everyday but just seem to lose overtime. Almost to the point where it's just a site bot or something to keep tables going.

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07-28-2016 , 12:22 AM

#17631

chinamaniac

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,720

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Originally Posted by 39suited

Actually, in this case it is relevant due to the fact that Bitcoin transactions do not really trigger any transaction fees.

It's still irrelevant, they can charge whatever they want and don't have to justify it by anything other than "processing costs money"

Doesnt matter if you sending larry bitcoin doesn't cost anything. It may cost them something and they can charge what they want and they don't have to break that down for anyone.

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07-28-2016 , 08:53 AM

#17632

39suited

But it was suited

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,189

So how come nobody else charges anything significant for Bitcoin processing? What makes Merge so special? Apart from their incredibly consistent skill to shoot themselves into the own feet, that is. Please don't repeat the "because they can" again, that record is broken.

It is just another example that highlights the inability of Merge to run their network properly, and if it wasn't for Black Friday the downfall would have started way earlier.

P.S. You are such an easy bait.

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07-28-2016 , 09:34 AM

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busate

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 570

Chico network does the same... charges almost 7% for BTC deposits.

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07-28-2016 , 10:30 AM

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goodsaint

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,377

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Originally Posted by 39suited

There are next to no processing fees for Bitcoin transactions, yet Merge charge 5% for it? Is that the same 5% flat they used to enforce for Skrill when it was still available? I also don't understand how one can try to make their quoted Bitcoin timeframe look good, because Bitcoin transactions are near instant.

I am not a fan of Bitcoins, but this definitely screams of ongoing cash flow problems still.

What would scream "ongoing cash flow problems still" to me would be those who have been banned from Merge not receiving their balances. Pretty sure we would hear from them in the Deposit/Withdrawal thread. Oh, wait. We have heard from a few. None complaining of not receiving their funds though.

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07-28-2016 , 11:37 AM

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Hittingreenz

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 71

What has been up with the low traffic on Carbon lately? It seems like half the tourney's are getting cancelled bc not enough entrants at the start, and the ones that do end up running, many are not hitting the GTD amount's. All the sunday majors (for Carbon) being cancelled a couple sundays ago and hardly any cash game flow seems to be early warning signs this site could be in trouble. Thoughts?

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07-28-2016 , 02:54 PM

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Haupt_234

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 6,097

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Originally Posted by Hittingreenz

I think this is just a combination of being summer when traffic on all sites dies down a bit and Merge not accepting new US players, assuming this is still in effect.

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07-28-2016 , 06:29 PM

#17637

chinamaniac

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,720

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Originally Posted by 39suited

Every business is different and maybe some do processing internaly. Maybe go interview all the sites management and ask them.

At one time i could get 80% rb on some sites. Other sites 0. Thats the way the world works. People set prices. Pay them or dont.

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07-28-2016 , 06:35 PM

#17638

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56,895

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac

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07-28-2016 , 06:46 PM

#17639

quit stallin

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 542

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Originally Posted by Hittingreenz

slow payouts

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07-28-2016 , 07:46 PM

#17640

suspect76

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 336

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Originally Posted by goodsaint

Yea they pay this out quick, somehow they can push through 20k per week with no issues after your banned, but while your a paying customer can take months to pay you 5k via the exact same method.

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07-29-2016 , 06:50 PM

#17641

RedTubber

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 69

how are the tournaments now days? are there a lot of fish ? regs? worth making a comeback deposit?!

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07-29-2016 , 07:44 PM

#17642

jay94

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,477

About half the size they used to be.

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07-30-2016 , 09:51 AM

#17643

p2 dog, p2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7,536

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Originally Posted by RedTubber

how are the tournaments now days? are there a lot of fish ? regs? worth making a comeback deposit?!

Mostly fish

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07-30-2016 , 12:24 PM

#17644

Jake311980

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 51

I took a long break from poker and looking to get back playing online and some live. I was almost going to deposit on Bovada but it seems that it lags allot from what everyone has been saying. I've always liked Carbons software. I know there checks are about a month long wait. I just want to play on a decent site and I don't think carbon is that bad. Is is still one of the best 3 sites to play on?

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07-30-2016 , 02:30 PM

#17645

ilikegreen

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 379

imo: Bovada sucks- anonymous players and no synchronized breaks

If you're from the usa only 2 sites worth depositing money into: Carbon Poker and Americas Cardroom. Learn bitcoin and use it to deposit and withdrawal on both sites.

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07-30-2016 , 02:37 PM

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ilikegreen

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 379

Was thinking about making a reload deposit for bonus purposes but is it true that I have to spend $400 in tourny fees to release $20 of bonus? and my bonus expires after 45 days? Did I read it wrong, is my math wrong?

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07-30-2016 , 02:48 PM

#17647

woolly

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,107

no that sounds correct, bonuses are 5% eff. rb

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07-30-2016 , 03:44 PM

#17648

p2 dog, p2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7,536

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Originally Posted by Jake311980

carbon, betonline, Winning Poker Network, Bovada, and Intertops are the most reputable post black friday sites imo. all of these sites have their pros and cons but these 5 have all paid (mostly without worry, some to a higher degree than others)

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07-31-2016 , 06:11 AM

#17649

jay94

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,477

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Originally Posted by ilikegreen

To each their own, I think WPN sucks because their cash games are terrible, filled with bots and grinders, can't even find a fish a table. While Bovada is anon and servers do suck, by far have the most fish and at the end of the day that is most important to me.