Hey guys! I’m Adam and I’ll be the 2+2 rep for Juicy Stakes poker.

This will be the official thread where we will keep you up to date with all the exciting things going on at Juicy and also help you with any queries, issues or feedback you have in a timely manner. You can reach me in this thread or also please feel free to PM me.

About Juicy Stakes

Juicy Stakes operates on the Revolution Network. We were taken over by Zagox Management in 2013 and we’ve formed a relationship to work closely with Intertops, so that together can we help keep the network healthy and also to run fantastic promotions together.

Who can play at Juicy Stakes?

Juicy Stakes takes players from ALL markets. You can create an account and download the software at www.juicystakes.eu

Get in touch if you need help with any sign up issues or queries

Whats happening at Juicy?

We’re currently offering a 200% bonus for first time depositors of up to $1,000!

Already have a Juicy account? This week (until 18/04) we’re offering a special reload bonus. Just use the code “TwoPlusTwo” to gain a 100% bonus on deposits from $20 up up to $200

You can also qualify for events such as the Caribbean Poker Tour with steps satellites starting from as little $2.20.

So this is your thread guys, let me know if you need any assistance with anything on the site and either myself or one of my team will be able to help you out.

Look forward to hearing from you all :-).

Adam,

Juicy Stakes Poker

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...stage-1451147/

When you say all markets, does that include the regulated states? The reason I ask is because I'm concerned about regulation in California. There's a very good chance I'm not going to want to play on the California sites. If they have geolocation problems, bad rake, inability to use HUDs, bad software or a myriad of other deal breakers, I'm going to want to continue to play on offshore sites.

Wont pretty quickly they all get banned like they have in the other 3 regulated states? Yea it may be good for a while, but I would definitely be concerned as well. I myself see regulation as a bad thing and especially the way it is being done, the game is already dieing and governments are doing their part to help it faster.

Juicy Stakes, I like this site and what not, but you need to do some sort of advertising, Lock and the previous owner along with Cake have tarnished this network killing almost all of the traffic.

A couple of sites still let players from regulated states sign on. And one site, I believe, allows players who are already on the site to continue playing but doesn't allow them to make any further deposits.

It’s true that at this stage, we have chosen not to pay out the balances of an extremely small number of players who have incredibly high balances.

The short answer to a very complex situation is that these players with very high balances have so far decided not to contribute to build up our ecology which is necessary to turn this ship around and to enable everyone, including themselves, get paid out. When we took over Juicy Stakes we inherited all of the debt and player balances and whilst we have been able to offer immediate withdrawal options for the overwhelming amount of our players who contribute to the ecology, we are sadly, not currently in the position to release hundreds of thousands of dollars to any one dormant account. We have spoken to the small amount of players involved and tried to encourage them that if they begin playing again we can begin to process withdrawals for them.

Every cent of profit we currently rake goes back into our player balance pool; so that the contributing players will be able to cash out. The only reason we opted to take over Juicy Stakes was that we were certain that this model would work to make sure our players would be able to withdraw, and so far it has.

Since we have taken over Juicy all new deposits have been and will continue to be segregated funds which players will have immediate access to if they wish to withdraw. No other players will face a similar situation as the few who have from issues from when we inherited the site.


I’m happy to answer any further specific questions regarding this.


Thanks,

Adam

We do accept players from California.

If you currently have an account you can continue to play on Juicy Stakes in any US state with the exception of KY. So it would likely also be the case that you would be able to continue playing in California if it ever became a regulated state.

You can create a Juicy Stakes account in any US state apart from - NY, LA, MO, WA, NJ & MD where account set ups are currently unavailable.

Yes, the network has had a rough time in recent years, which is why we have looked to form relationships with leading sites like Intertops to make sure it wouldn't happen in the future.

We're always looking at cool and innovative advertising options to help get our name out there and rebuild the site traffic.

I wouldn't hesitate to deposit here only because I know Intertops has always been excellent and they would never align themselves with a company that could hurt their reputation again after the Lock Poker fiasco.

Lock wreaked havoc on everything that it came near. I'm not so sure that Cake was much better.

Intertops reps or i mean Juicy stake rep. you realize you STOLE the players balances that you REFUSE to cashout without 2500 FFP(5k in rake for 1k cashout). you realize this LOOKS HORRIBLE for new customers until you make this right. You realize u never made an agreement prior to taking over juicy stakes with the players that they would need to play to cashout. You are screwing over a small number of players that held prolly 50% of the balances of juicy prior to takeover with an after the fact one sided agreement. Can you do whatever you want sure u can but no one will ever play at a site that random steals legitimately earned money however you want to justify it. You need to learn to work with the players. You call us Dormant when u capped cashouts at 1k week when people had 50k+ in accounts(50 weeks even with no play). You created this with 1k cashouts. if they were the industry standard of 3k-5k week i bet you everyone would been playing as normal

IDC how u word it man. you are STEALING peoples money when u tell them they need to get 2500ffp which=5k(if rakeback player) in rake while sitting at table when they can only cashout a capped 1k. u know everyone of the players owed money is a winning player. you know if they play enuff to get 2500 FFP they would probably make over the 1k (net profit with 36% RB)cashout thus never lowering balance.

Things you could to do to make this right.
#1 Raise the cashout for these players to higher number prolly 3-5k
#2 Lower the FFP requirement. seems lol when u ask other players to get 100ffp to get a free cashout then you ask these players to get 25x that in a week.
#3 drop this and allow cashouts if they are requested.
#4. just make a settlement with the players to make each side happy. maybe like a tax not to play on current balance.

This is not a complete bash as you have paid out those players for 1k week for months before doing this, which myself included 100% appreciate. But comon you know what the right move is. Reach a fair agreement with the players, 2500 ffp is not fair at 1k capped cashout. Until You do no one will sign up for your site on 2p2 or googles juicystakes once they read this thread thus in the end will costing you more than my little balance owed. all this over my little 8k balance. Do the right thing and reach a settlement where both side are happy.

P.s. readers. Intertops wont admit it but im 99% sure they were the ones that tookover/bought/given for debts owed by the network This Juicy Stakes Skin.So whatever they do with their juicy stakes brand reflexs their intertops brand. Take that into consideration

If someone wins $1K, that money wouldn't be under any restrictions would it? Isn't it only the money that the new company gave to the players that is restricted? I'm not sure how you figure that the original money wouldn't get released.

Basically they try to turn around and point finger at us for not playing for justification to institute balance stealing unachievable requirement to cashout when they originally capped cashouts to 1k week when the bigger players had 50k+ in accounts. What did they think those players were going to do?(I emailed them many times about this during the take over about how they are going to lose every middle and higher stakes player with 1k cap cashout) obv they cant play at 1k week cashout when they have a year of cashouts backed up. They created this action with their industry small cashout cap which at the time was prolly out of necessity to limit exposer with whatever cash on hand they hand to make it stretch. At this point tho they are over that hump and stealing those players fund as is with the current requirement. They need to settle this with the players affected. Both sides can reach an agreement and can be made happy in some fashion.

Do their p2p transfers have limits?

I can't believe there isn't a line to deposit on a US facing site not currently paying ALL players... For the love of GOD, how much longer are we going to have to endure bull**** like this? I'd never play on a site holding player money because of their own financial ineptitude, EVER. Enough is ****ing enough.

I don't necessarily agree with their approach, but the new owners took on a lot of debt and they came to their own business approach for their best chance of success at making a revival for the network and the company. Yes, when if ever full regulation comes into affect you will have a lot more complaining to do, its going to be far from what is being perceived as an opportunistic second gold age by quite a few people.

Hi,

Thanks for your post, I totally understand your frustrations.

When we took over Juicy, we spent millions of dollars so that we could offer withdrawal options to the overwhelming majority of players. But, there is only so much money you can pour into a company: this meant the only way we could take over Juicy Stakes in the first place would be with the long term plan of building up our site to have a healthy ecology and then using the rake from that to pay the high stakes players - all profits that are raked are going towards paying out players.

The reason that these players are being asked to earn FPPs is that we need to acquire higher levels of rake to be able to pay back these higher balances which our the previous owners could not cover and we inherited. The process does take a long time, but doing it any other way would be impossible for us. It’s a Catch-22, we could either do it this way or we wouldn't be able to takeover and Juicy Stakes would still be offline. I don't mean that to sound like "it's us of nothing" but that was the case and we are here to offer a really positive future for the site.

We’re really proud that since we've have taken over the site, we've so far been able to get so many people paid out as well as welcome back those who have continued to play and say hello to the new customers we continue to acquire every day which is building up the traffic on the tables and we're looking towards a bright future. The most important part of that future is working towards everyone getting paid out. It might not be of compensation to you to say "hey, we've paid out 95% of players" if you're not part of that, but it's something we've worked hard to do and will continue to do so until it's 100%



Adam

Hi,

Post takeover, all players at Juicy Stakes' funds are segregated and players will have full access to them at any time, included funds won at the tables.

It's only a very small amount of players whose account balances from pre-takeover are affected by cashout restrictions.

There will be initial limits in place. You can contact support if you'd like these limits changed.


Thanks,

Adam

Lol at wanting to build a healthy ecology while not being able to cover every dollar in play on your site. Best of luck with your Ponzi scheme.

It is always nice to see a rep in the forums. What are your current withdrawal options/limits/fees for players that have actually made a deposit?

I take into consideration that you don't have any evidence for this nor will likely ever get it either.

Well, Juicy Stakes withdrawals were being processed by Intertops.

I know processing fees can get expensive for sites, but can you PLEASE look into offering one free cashout per month?

Also, any chance on getting Bitcoin as a deposit and cashout option?

I would also welcome you here. Your customer service communication skills are excellent. You definitely come across as sincere.

There still ridicous cash out fees?

I'd deposit in a second if there was one free withdrawal a month.