All sites have $700 rake requirements? Man if i were a smarter dude i'd venture youre trying to **** with me a lil.. what do they call it these days? Golem'ing? i cant remember im on a ventilator these days and i go to dialysis 5 times a week so internet poker is hard but a thousand bucks is a thousand bucks ya know?

All sites have SOME type of rake requirement before you cash out. Sorry to hear about your problems. Sounds tough.

In this case the rake requirement was applied after your inactive balance was re-credited to your account. You agreed to the rake requirement before the funds were re-credited. The terms were that the balance had to be raked before you can withdraw. In regards to your query about a deposit, if you deposit, then it would be subject to roll-over, that is you have to roll-over the deposit in the casino before you can withdraw, or if you play on the poker tables then you have to rake 10% of the deposit before you can withdraw.

I hope I have answered all your questions

Regards

Adam

I play on more than one site. On one of them, which is available to Americans in most states, you can cash out once a week for a fee, or one free check every 30 days with a minimum withdrawal of $100.

A month ago I was thinking about playing a 1 Gold Chip satellite because the chip had been sitting there for at least a year. I did not enter because I couldn't get any information on the target tournament, I posted about it in this thread, and no one responded.

A similar thing happened today. I finished a tournament and wanted something to play and I saw a freeroll listed. The top prize was a ticket to a tournament with a $300 prize pool.

I clicked on the ticket number, looked around the page and I could not find any information about the target tournament.

I decided to give it one more try a few minutes ago, with gold chip satellite tournament #16516822. I clicked on the link for the first place prize and it sent me to tournament #16516438. I clicked on the links for first and third place in that tournament and both times what I got back was:

"The requested tournament could not be found. It may not have been announced at this time."

If I am going to climb a satellite ladder I need to know the date and time(s) of all of the target tournament(s).

Players have complained on this thread that tickets have expired because they were unable to get to play the target tournament. Now we can't even know when the target tournaments are. Please fix this.

If I'm correct, which I'm pretty sure I am, the tickets for the three daily ticket freerolls are as follows:

1st: $300 GTD running Sunday nights at 23:14 ET [Ticket value $5.50]
2nd, 3rd: $200 GTD running Saturday nights at 23:14 ET [Ticket value: $3.30]
4th-7th: $100 GTD Big Bounty running Friday nights at 23:14 ET [Ticket value $2.20]
8th-15th: $100 GTD Just One Dollar running every night at 22:14 [Ticket value: $1.10]

Basing these guesses on the fact that there are players already registered into these for the coming week and, basically, NO ONE on this network registers for ANY tournaments a week in advance.


Also:
If you're willing to pay a buy-in there's a $5.50 w/ 1R/1A $250 GTD that runs on Sunday evenings when they can get the minimum players (6) registered that for the life of me I cannot figure out why Juicy Stakes keeps it a secret.

Basically the same 6 players -- when they all manage to show up -- have been the only ones playing this tournament for months and months. Even if all six do the R and A it will still overlay about $160. I forget what time it runs on Sunday evenings -- I'm thinking it's either 18:15 or 19:15 ET -- but it gets listed later in the week and is a snap to find under the "Private" tournament tab.


Hope that helps.

I appreciate the information. I'm not asking because of the buy-in, I just wanted to play something and after I finished my tournament I checked and the satellite was supposed to be running in 10 minutes.

Still, I've seen a lot of complaints in this thread about tickets expiring before they can be used, so you can see why it gives me pause when I can't find a target tournament that matches a ticket. Also, as some have stated after their tickets expired, it's hard to commit to a tournament when the date it runs is not known.

Sorry I can't shed any light on expiration dates. I haven't bothered with those freerolls in quite a while. Can't remember if I ever got a ticket from any of them and if I did I can't recall if there was any expiration date attached. I'm sure the Stakes rep will pop in here eventually and clear it all up, right?

The ticket you won with a satellite expires as soon as you cant enter to the next tournament it is for. There is no information of this, so you learn it the hard way. This includes the non freerolls, and I suppose the freerolls.

If there is extra money for the one bubbling the ticket, you could try to lose then, but it is not easy, and the last time I tried it the chip leader eliminated two players at the same time and I ended up with a ticket for a 5 am 10+1 tournament, that was gone as soon as I woke up.

So many people on here have complained about expired tickets that I expected an answer like that. Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. I will stay away from the satellites.

Is there anyone with issues loading some tables, I get white screens, especially when trying to load multiple tables. Usually only play a few on here so don't run into this often, but with carbon down, trying more tables/stakes.

How hard is it to just add Bitcoin.

I am writing this because the community should be informed. I am not looking for any sympathy nor what you think I should've done differently. First, a little background.

Several years ago Juicy Stakes implemented a playing and withdrawal system that can only be described as extortion. The amount of play required to withdrawal the maximum of $1k would've taken me upwards of one year one check. I had a five figure balance somwhere around $11-12k stuck on there at the time. Had I actually played long enough to withdrawal one check I would've racked up a lot more than my current balance. I spent a lot of time and effort trying to come up with ways to get my money off the site. I even began a plan to flip all-in SNGs to accumulate points towards a withdrawal that way. I had done the math on how long it would take to complete. It would've taken forever with no guarantee I would've been paid out. I moved onto bargaining with management. I decided to go I as far as to offer them half my balance if they paid me out in full. They said no. Obviously a grim situation.

The other day I logged in with the unlikely hope that the Juicy Stakes withdrawal policy had changed. I noticed my cashier was $0. I looked in my transaction history and saw a withdrawal for the full balance in May.

I opened up their online support chat and asked them about it. They claimed I hadn't logged in in one year and their TOC stated a player idling for such a period resulted in full confiscation of funds. The rule pasted into chat had to do with logging in, not playing. They told me they weren't responsible for notifiying players. They also stated they sent me emails about my idle activity and the withdrawal. I did not receive one email. I had logged in four months prior to my money being stolen. I asked them for the log file showing my last login. They did not provide me with that. The senior adviser on shift, Peter, said he would forward the conversation to management who would get back to me in 24-48 hours. I received no response in that time. I thought back to all my time and effort put into this situation and made one last attempt. I informed them my plan to go public on every possible site I could if they did not restore my balance and immediately process a withdrawal within 24 hours.

-Keith

Pretty ****ty move from the site. Most def shouldn't just confiscate the whole balance instead should just take some fee if you are not using the account.

1) Juicy Stakes went bankrupt a few years ago. It was owned by Cake.
2) It was sold over to another company who was under no obligation to pay out prior debts.
3) The new management implemented a policy whereby with a modicum of play, a player could get their balances paid out.
4) As the amount of play required was far less than the balances that players were owed, it was a reasonable deal.
5) I'm fairly sure there is a JS rep on this forum, you should check the Juicy thread and PM him directly.
6) Confiscation of funds is a bull**** policy and I do not agree with it. Fight it.

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Kahn

I do not agree with Juicy's withdrawal policy for players who have been involved since the early Cake days.

I was one of these players who had to hit a ridiculous amount of FPP's to withdraw my money.

For what it's worth, I recently was granted my withdrawal after finally hitting the FPP amount. It took me forever, but they did grant it.

You could have had your balance transferred back to Cake (the prior owners of Juicy Stakes). In which case you'd still have exactly zero dollars to show for it since Cake isn't paying off those debts


With that said. Congrats on recouping your funds. Did you manage to calculate how much rake your FPPs equal? It's far less than what you were paid out I'm sure... The idea here was to get people to play and create liquidity and keep the network growing while also paying them back for debts that the prior owners were going to default on.

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Kahn

Unfortunately, I believe this is no longer the case. I *think* that official site reps have to pay 2+2 to be on the forum, and they stopped doing that. So, no more representation here.

You would be incorrect.

Fair enough. For clarification:

Sorry, guess I could have elaborated further. Sites can have rep accounts even when they aren't advertising, they're just more restricted with what they can do, and aren't branded. The non-advertising rep account has replied in this thread a few times now:

OK, well in this case you can just call me Jon Snow because clearly I know nothing.

On a lighter note, I just noticed that I have a "Direct Bank Transfer" cashout method listed in addition to requesting a check, which I've never seen before.

It is not entirely uncommon for a poker site, sportsbook, casino to offer less than all available withdrawal methods to clients. As certain clients become more "trusted" via whatever internal methodology the company uses, other, sometimes exotic methods of deposit and withdrawal become available.

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Kahn

I understood why they did what they did, but in my opinion they could have done something more easily achievable for the players. Having said that, I am lucky they allowed me to get my money at all.

I did not calculate rake, just a bunch of emails back and forth seeing how many more FPP's I needed.

Should be pretty easy to calculate.

Poker Ring Games » Earn 1 FPP for every $1 raked.
Poker Tournaments » Earn 7 FPP for every $1 in tourney fees.


How many FPPs did you have to earn to withdraw $XXX.xx ?


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Kahn