This is called being naive. That is your fault. Tons of bots threads (including ipoker ones) have been done in the past here.

Here is one I actually started about a year and a half ago when I was hoping that ipoker would act in an effective manner at the time.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...stions-431703/

Note as well that I use actual basic data instead of moral outrage as a guide.

I tried my best to get ipoker to look at the situation and analyze it but realized quickly that they lacked the interest or knowledge to do much about it. Whichever it was did not matter after my initial attempts as I stopped playing there within a month.

I did not try to write gaming authorities or politicians since that would

1) accomplish nothing as bots in and by itself are not violating any "gaming authority" based rules

2) waste a lot of my time







You will never receive compensation and will use a lot of time to get nothing, however if you get some satisfaction with these type of hopeless quests then keep on doing what you are doing, including hour and a half long chats with base level support people that will produce absolutely nothing of value.

Feel free to repeat this over and over and be upset about it. You will accomplish nothing but wasting time doing this at this point.

Either keep playing there or leave with your $200 bankroll based on how they run their business. Those are your choices.



This will accomplish nothing and will waste your time. This is not an issue they would even look into as bots in and by itself do not violate their rules like fraud would for instance.


This will accomplish nothing and will waste your time, and you have no money to pay for it anyway. They have not violated any laws. Get over it.


If others want to waste their time like you seem to want to waste yours then they can do this. Nobody will receive compensation for this.

What they can do that is a lot more effective is choose to leave ipoker and write their skins explaining why and posting their letters here. That is how a consumer can make a difference.


Grow up and switch sites already if these are concerning you this much. Otherwise you come across as a drama queen who enjoys wasting a lot of people's time while being ineffective.


This is a legitimate issue that customers can fight back by doing what customers do best - withhold business, not whine to gambling authorities who will do nothing about it (as it violates no rules).

Ipoker made several thousand dollars less in rake from me as a result of my issues with them. That's how a player can make a difference.

They play on www.betngo.com.

Check this link for rake race leaderboards:

http://www.pokeritieto.com/keskustel...us-t33570.html

And I found complaints about them on PokerStrategy dating back to 23. June 2010...

Edit: I watched them play and the "exactly 3 seconds to act" stuff is really scary!

lol at the skin you mentioned!!! it was the same one i was with so if i was you mate and i mean this with the best regards to your time and money!!!

Gtfo of the network because you are going to be on a very long and very annoying trail into nothingness trying to sort anything!!!! it made me hate poker for a full 6 months.

Do what the guy posting in long details said and choose another site.

Tidied

I'm not sure where you get all this 'wasting time' stuff from, because you haven't really clarified it.

It says the Gambling Authority are there to investigate disputes between the site and customers, so I'm taking this dispute to them. Why do you feel this doesn't qualify ?

I certainly don't enjoy using my time to do this, the stress and anger this past week has caused me and the amount of time I've had to invest to try and get answers was unbelievable. Also, I said I was speaking to the Betfred poker manager, which was the highest person that I could speak to, so it wasn't 'base level support,' as you suggested.

The way I understand it, companies have to run to certain standards and if they don't there are procedures and independent bodies in place to investigate them. In this case, the first port of call is the Gambling Authority.

The iPoker site claims to be a secure place to play, where cheating is not tolerated and that there are sophisticated tools in place to detect cheats, who will then be dealt with severely. If, as appears to be the case, this is a load of lies, then iPoker absolutely have a case to answer.

I'm not sure why you'd think it's ok for companies to lie to customers and mislead them, but I certainly don't think that's the case. As I've been losing money due to this lying and misleading, I think I have a reasonable case for compensation as well.

I honestly think the best action to take is to just leave. I mean it's bare faced yet they have proven that they simply don't care. What about all the ones who are not obvious?

They take 3 seconds per play- "No they don't"
They never time out - "Yes they do"
They never chat - "Yes they do"
They log on together - "No they don't"
They never take breaks - "Yes they do"
They never click auto fold - "Yes they do"
They play all day and night mass multitabling but never meet - Actually didn't receive a reply to that.

What can you do when those are the detailed replies you get back?

If anything you could contact William Hill, they virtually own Playtech, buying most of it out recently. Graeme Sharp is their head bod and his e-mail is on Billy Hill's website. I saw him on the TV news tonight as it happens, interviewed about the Pakistani cricket scandal and he reminded me of the bots on his site.

All you do is bluster and whine and look for people who can be your whine buddies. You never actually prove anything or understand anything yourself and you react emotionally to events that have nothing to do with emotions.



The "Gambling Authority" whatever the hell that means in your imagination will tell you that bots are not something they monitor as bots in and by themselves do not violate any laws, assuming they are not being used in a super user capacity.

Some rooms use bots and others pay players to start tables. Other rooms (more reputable and larger ones) avoid these practices.

You are complaining about something that from a "gambling authority" perspective does not matter, hence you are wasting your time and everyone elses time with your whining.


Feel free to speak to God himself and nothing will change on this issue. They will deny that they use bots or ignore you (as they are allowed to do) or try to humor you until they get tired of you.

The fact you continue to waste time in ways that will accomplish nothing is your choice.

Either play there or do not based on how they handle the bot situation. Your choice is that simple and the fact that you were clueless until this week about a topic that has been discussed here many times over the years is your failing.



You live in a fantasy world of your own creation, but whatever - keep at it with the "Gambling Authority" and see how your approach goes. Post blogs and manifestos and walk the streets with signs about your troubles if you prefer, but you will change nothing with your approach by this point in time.

I chose to leave ipoker 1.5 years ago. Apparently you are going to continue to play there and whine about it. To each his own.


Golly Jeepers! How about you actually do something instead like not playing there any more. If their "load of lies" are having such an emotional impact on you then cash out already.

They have no moral responsibility to you even though you believe such things in your fantasy world, and actions based on these reactions are what you always do and it is why you never accomplish a single thing other than wasting time.



Your mythical "Gambling Authorities" will not compensate you, nor will the rooms given you are not a significant customer.

Nearly 2 years ago I brought up an issue to ipoker and was unsatisfied with how they handled it and the skins I played on were fairly powerless to do much themselves. Given that and their inferior software I cashed out and have not been back since.

Know what you will be doing in 18 months? You will be playing with your $200 roll on ipoker whining about them. You are still playing there despite all your obsessive whine threads about ipoker over the months. Others can search you for the threads you start to see what I am talking about.

Your continued play there show you are one of the causes of the problems as you lack the testicles to stop playing at a site where you have such strong issues. Stop whining and stop playing there and make a difference for once in your life.

I am not wasting any more of my time on you in this thread, but I will say I have disdain for people who lack the convictions to walk away from places they have such strong issues against.

If you actually do quit playing there (which will not happen) then congrats in advance, but all we can really expect from you is more whining and complaining (with no results) and threats of taking it to mysterious "Gambling Authorities." Sadly, that's how you roll.

The Gibraltar Regulatory Authority are there to settle disputes between customers and gambling sites. Not sure why you think this wouldn't include disputes which involve bots, but feel free to point this out.

As I said previously, companies are not allowed to lie to and mislead people. I feel iPoker have done that. I also feel them doing that has cost me money over the past 18 months, although obviously an exact amount would be hard to judge. For that reason I will seek legal advice regarding compensation. I'm assuming you're not a legal expert as well as a psychological expert, so I hope you're not offended if I wait for proper legal advice rather than yours ?

Not sure where your anger or attacks for me on this subject have stemmed from, maybe the fact you're no longer at the heart of this matter and people are making moves to have things done which you didn't.

You may be right, maybe nothing can be done, but your explanations of why haven't been up to much so far. Basically my two points would be that the Regulatory Authority are there to deal with disputes such as this, so why not use them and companies can't mislead and lie to people and if their doing so has cost people money, these people would have a case for compensation.

Thanks, I've just emailed Graham Sharpe about the issue, so we'll see what happens from there.

Whatever.

You have posted crap like this for several months and have nothing to show for it, so the fact you will not do the one single thing as a consumer you can do (cash out and say goodbye to the company) while you continue all of this drama that will yield nothing (like all of your past efforts) is pathetic.

Fill us in on the nothing that your legal team, Graham Sharpe, the "Poker Authorities", and the Gibraltar Regulatory Authority do about your plight while you continue to play at ipoker since it seems obvious you will never actually stop playing there.

Guys like you actually get in the way of people who do stuff, that is why you annoy me.

Anyway, doing what I should have done a while ago - you can join Wiki on ignore. Not like anyone ever supports your silliness anyway so I guess I get annoyed for no reason.

Good luck with your little endless quest as you keep playing at ipoker.

Bye.

And still....... lots of anger, no explanations.

FTP, is this true? Are you playing on iPoker currently?

Unfortunately I am, yes.

I have my reasons if you'd like to know them. Certainly not an ideal situation.

Wow. Unbelievable to me how you could be this upset with the network and still play there. If you can play at iPoker, you can play at pretty much any site.

It's grim, but I do feel kind of stuck there.